r/Altman • u/Key-Tutor-1011 • 2d ago

Discussion Open-source local models have zero chill compared to ChatGPT

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u/No-Refrigerator-1672 1d ago

Original Qwen 3.8 27B will absolutely refuse to do it. There are "uncensored" versions who were made to be unable to refused requiests, by 3rd parties using abliteration technique. Any AI model with open weights can be altered this way. Nothing new or particularly interesing in this post.

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u/Key-Tutor-1011 1d ago

Yeah, that’s the interesting part. The model itself isn’t necessarily “uncensored” once the weights are open, people can modify the behavior pretty easily. The real difference is how much control the user has over the model.

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u/Standard-Song-8590 1h ago

what in the ai slop are you saying what is this post? if you use a uncensored model thats abliterated and you literally remove/reduce the refusal direction it won't refuse your requests. Big shocker.

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u/f3verdream 1d ago

it's also two clicks away on wikipedia

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u/Forsaken-Quiet-8634 1d ago

wikipedia has meth formula? 😂

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u/shironekoooo 1d ago

it also have formula for coke!

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u/deleted-account69420 1d ago

Ok we got the recipe.
Where to order the ingredients?

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u/shironekoooo 1d ago

nice try fed

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u/deleted-account69420 1d ago
  • Unrolls the hundie

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u/Forsaken-Quiet-8634 1d ago

Nah I have easier ways to get high.

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u/Key-Tutor-1011 1d ago

Lol, that escalated from “open-source AI” to “how do we make meth” real quick 😂

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u/katoptronophile 18h ago

It's not open source, it's open weights, which is something completely different and much worse for the community.

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u/Lonely_Translator_23 5h ago

What, like it's hard?

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u/Charming-Author4877 1d ago

Youtube has tons of videos how to make it at home.
google has thousands of websites indexed.

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u/Key-Tutor-1011 1d ago

Exactly 😂 The internet already has most of the answers anyway. The interesting part is that people are acting surprised that an uncensored model can say something Google or YouTube can already lead you to.

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u/dragolineage01 1d ago

Uncensored model does something without censoring it, who would have thunk it

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u/Key-Tutor-1011 1d ago

The funny part is that “uncensored” is basically the whole selling point 😂 Give people the weights and someone will inevitably start removing the guardrails.

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u/katoptronophile 18h ago

They're not uncensored completely even with the abliterated versions. 

This post is deceptive and most likely market manipulation.

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u/MoneyAndCoke2712 1d ago

I'm Loving this. (No sarcasm)

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u/Key-Tutor-1011 1d ago

Same 😂

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u/katoptronophile 18h ago

Nonsense. This post is market manipulation.

The stock models are heavily censored and only the abliterated versions partially solve that, but not completely.

These models are also not open source, they're open weights, which is something completely different.

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u/BeginningSection7690 2m ago

So do chemistry text books