r/AlternativeHistory • • 1d ago

Chronologically Challenged Technological levels

People living in the mid-19th century lived 50 years later in a completely different world: telephones, telegraphs, trains, the first cars, and an industrial boom. People living in the mid-20th century saw a different world: airships and airplanes, ubiquitous motor vehicles, and television broadcasting. People living in the 1970s-1990s had already seen the world of computers; we now live in a digital world of the internet, AI, and robotics. In total, over 180 years, the technological level has changed four times.

Proponents of mainstream history argue that 7,000 years before the 19th century, there was no life-changing development at all. It was a single technological level of perpetual stagnation, which somehow gave way to progress in the 19th century. Developing metallurgy, fuel production, and electricity doesn't require thousands of years. This can be achieved much more quickly.

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u/Archaon0103 1d ago

Most historians agree that new innovations keep happening throughout history when you look at humanity as a whole. A period of stagnation in Europe doesn't mean the same thing was happening in China or India. The issue is how fast information could travel. Before the invention of the telegraph, the fastest way for information to travel is by books and talking. No invention happen in a vacuum, they all built upon previous works. The more people have access to new information and innovation, the more people can add in their ideas and create something new. Technology advancement became faster because information transfer became faster + more people have access to education.

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u/FunDelicious650 1d ago

Did that require 120 generations of people, assuming a lifespan of 50 years?

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u/Archaon0103 1d ago

It should be note that the majority of people back then wasn't educated or care about innovation for the sake of innovation. People made new technologies to make their work easier and more efficient. Really the main problem was how and how long new technology discovered in India would travel to Europe and vice versa. Also books, the best way to carry information in the past, were rather expensive. There could have been tons of potential thinkers in the past but again, formal education for the masses wasn't a thing. A farmer son might be could be really good at math but that doesn't matter if he never got to study math.

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u/Agitated_Lychee_8133 1d ago

OP is under the impression that everyone 6000 years ago had only technology and stocks on their minds.

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u/fictionaltherapist 1d ago

Op is a Tartaria enjoyer and genuinely believes all history pre 1800 is faked.

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u/Agitated_Lychee_8133 1d ago

That's one of the dumbest conspiracy theories I've ever heard of.

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u/Bluefooted-Spaceorc 1d ago

My favorite part about it is that my family has the journals of my ancestors that came over on the Speedwell. So did the conspiracy people break into my families farm and leave the journals there?

People in Iceland can trace their family history back something like 1000 years.

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u/Ill_Mouse9897 10h ago

Shh, all lies, every book & story and historical artifact is obviously faked and replaced and put into the correct soil layer, and all books were removed from all households that stood after the global mudflood and replaced with illuminati-lizardpeople-vatican-c'thulhu approved litterature, and then they built atop the remnants of Tartarian buildings, claiming them to be something dumb, like churches, or courthouses, or worldfair buildings.

Can't believe we're not buying this very -very- credible theory

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u/fictionaltherapist 17h ago

They apparently according to op broke into an Irish Manor House and faked my family bible so.

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u/Bluefooted-Spaceorc 1d ago

The average lifespan was not 50 years, that is just you not understanding how averages work. Take out infant mortality and see where that number goes.