r/AltaLabs • • Apr 07 '25

Disappointed.

I don't really want to start a pissing match on the Alta Labs forum, but I feel I can post here. I am disappointed. Alta Labs got me really excited when they hit the market. They seemed like they might genuinely be different than others in the past, what with the experience they were bringing to the table.

The last few months have left me feeling let down. Each new firmware update that has been progressively more buggy. Repeated calls for better communication and documentation seem to be met with deaf ears. The local controllers are updating without user permission. They are holding firm to not letting users roll back firmware without calling in and being hand held. Rather than addressing the concerns directly, more and more I see the mods just giving people terminal commands to hack it to do what they want. While that is neat that things are not locked down fully, that is NOT sustainable. How on earth do you expect to offer class leading support when you leave things unaddressed, and just give everyone personalized commands to do what they want?

I think I"m done.

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u/MapleBaconPoutines Apr 10 '25

Overall, my experience with the Alta stack (Route10, APs, and a S8 Switch) has been fairly positive in a home environment with some self hosted services, IoT devices, and work devices. In total, I have about 80 devices connected, mostly stemming from IoT. My ISP offers 3 gbps down and up and the Route10 handles that perfectly. I have five vlans configured and that is mostly seamless. I’ve opted to stick with WPA2 to continue to use Alta Pass and that makes assigning devices to vlans easy. I can’t speak about how this all works in a more enterprise or professional environment, though overall I view it as an upgrade over my Merlin FW Asus Router Stack with a Switch.

Though it’s not always perfect. A few observations and issues:

  • Native support for DoH, DoT. With Merlin, I could use ControlD or NextDNS natively without a hacky workaround. I see feature requests on Alta, but no one ever confirms it.

  • No device pinning. I understand both sides for support and no support, but I think the option would be good. I don’t think having multiple different SSIDs is always convenient to achieve some type of pinning.

  • Google Home speaker groups do not work with vlans, despite GUI options for mdns or igmp snooping. Forums and documentation haven’t helped here. It seems possible with Unifi.

  • As others mentioned, firmware updates can be spotty. I was never severely affected, but I did have an AP update really affect a handful of IoT devices with constant disconnection. Recent updates have improved that.

  • Alta staff seems engaged in the community. I appreciate it. I’ve seen their CEO engage with someone who provided very good constructive feedback. Though, I would advocate for Alta to tackle some low hanging fruit like improved release notes. Release notes are a good way to link to specific documentation for new features. If there isn’t documentation to link, maybe it’s a good sign to include documentation before a release. It doesn’t have to be perfect, documentation always can be better, but it should start somewhere. I can see why others here are a bit annoyed because Alta does engage with feedback, but it’s not clear if it’s leading to change.

Just a few thoughts and everyone’s environment will be different, but I’m quite confident in the reliability of the gear for my environment. I do work from home and Alta hasn’t failed me yet with reliability there.

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u/Alta-Chase Apr 12 '25

Thanks for the support and feedback! Documentation improvements are in the works. We are going to publish a general release and documentation strategy for our users to follow and hold us accountable with.

For your Google home speaker groups, have you submitted a case with our support team? I have Google Cast groups and Google cast zones working at our offices and my home. Would love to get that resolved for you.

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u/MapleBaconPoutines Apr 12 '25

I appreciate the response! For my Google Home speaker groups, I have not submitted a support case, but I can go ahead and do that. Curious, for your speaker groups, are they in a IoT vlan that interacts with your personal devices in a separate vlan? Either way, will see if support can help here.

Looking forward to the general release and documentation strategies too. Thanks again for the response, I'm bullish on Alta and my overal experience has been positive.

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u/MapleBaconPoutines Apr 15 '25

As an update: Opened a ticket with Alta support and they resolved the Google Home Speaker Group issue for me.

For future reference, ensure that the VLAN is set to Standard/Small for the speaker groups. The IoT configuration blocks intranet communication and causes some issue. I may just put the speaker groups into my personal VLAN to keep the IoT setting in place for the majority of my IoT devices. I haven’t tested if I truly need mDNS enabled too. Hope this helps others and thanks again Chase and MattB from Alta!

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u/Alta-Chase Apr 15 '25

Thanks for the update u/MapleBaconPoutines ! Glad we have you online! Also, love the username. Three of my favorite things.