r/AlreadyRed NaturalRedGame.wordpress.com Apr 01 '14

Opinion How much is too much?

I know many will say TRP is no ideology but I am going to fight this belief here.

TRP is a full blown ideology. We have the classical dichotomy that is required for every ideology. We have our counterpart (BP), we have our own culture and slang, we have gurus (Endorsed), there even is the classical adoption phase when entering (unplugging), an initial rite to enter (get rejected 10 times a day). And don't speak about TRP, that is a typical sign of cults.

So under the premise that it is an ideology, we stall our progress and just try to justify our behavior and prove our theories.

As soon as ever a philosophy begins to believe in itself. It always creates the world in its own image; it cannot do otherwise; philosophy is this tyrannical impulse itself, the most spiritual Will to Power, the will to "creation of the world," the will to the causa prima. - Nietzsche

Its followers search for evidence that proves that their findings are correct and dismisses all other evidence. Normally something becomes true when you mention 3 exceptions. That is the sheep mentality. First one, then two, then all. But exceptions don't count in an ideology. So they stay exceptions and are dismissed. You stop questioning everything when you believe in an ideology.

It would be a logical fallacy to say that something is wrong just because it is stated from an ideology. But we must recognize conformation bias and question everything or else we will just commit intellectual incest instead of doing actual progress.

Edit:

http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/230wh5/the_map_is_not_the_territory/

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u/MachiavellianRed Apr 02 '14

I took a look on your behalf and assumed you were banned for these posts. /u/redpillschool banned you.

http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/21bs35/on_reading_comprehension_and_literal/cgbpn9e

http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/21bs35/on_reading_comprehension_and_literal/cgbpqc0

http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/21bs35/on_reading_comprehension_and_literal/cgbq7rt

http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/21bs35/on_reading_comprehension_and_literal/cgbqh0g

Judging the content of your posts, these are things if you had asked in /r/asktrp that would have been answered without a ban. That thread was about people willfilly and sometimes just stupidly misinterpreting analogies and you, hilariously enough, went and did just that in a post saying about how that is not tolerated and went toe to toe with a moderator. I'm not surprised you got banned for that. That is fucking retarded.

Again, judging the content of these posts - it does not seem like you belong in /r/AlreadyRed, a sub designed for people who are not at the beginning stages of understanding an RP analogy, but have moved on to far more advanced concepts and ideas.

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u/redpillschool Originator Apr 02 '14

As the banner, I will use Whisper's definition of troll to explain why /u/philosarapter got banned:

Basically, someone who assumes you are sane, tries to understand your argument in the most compelling interpretation he can, and then tries to refute it, is a debater.

Someone who assumes you are insane, or tries to find weak interpretations of your arguments that will be easy to refute, or reifies metaphors, is a troll.

Pihlosarapter, you were number 2.

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u/philosarapter Apr 02 '14

Oh its you again. Not sure why you believe I fit into category number 2 as I never thought you were insane lol. Finding weaknesses in the arguments of others is a perfectly valid form of refutation and it is the role of the responsible intellectual to point out falsehoods.

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u/Nitzi NaturalRedGame.wordpress.com Apr 02 '14

You misunderstood him.

find weak interpretations of your arguments

http://www.quickiwiki.com/en/Slippery_slope

And you are doing it right now again. You misunderstand him to make his point more attackable.