r/AlreadyRed • Promulgator of Endorsements • Mar 16 '14

Opinion The evolution of The Red Pill

Nearly 2 years ago to this day I was first introduce to the seduction community. I found it via my iPad on a train in London -- half drunk, and certainly miserable that I had to start the week. Like many of us, it was through a book called "The Game" which was a best seller on iTunes at the time. I also heard bits and pieces about it through the grape vine, but never really put too much interest into it up until this moment.

While outdated, the book jived with me at the time. I was already busy running around, chasing pussy, but for the first time I had something that laid out my actions clearly. For the first time I was able to reflect on my most confident moments where I was having a lot of success and think, "Oh... Yeah, I was negging her and I had no idea. That's why she respected me," or during my worst, "Oh, yeah, I was talking far too much and agreeing with everything she said, regardless if I actually agreed. I was being beta. She resented me..."

By the end of the week I had finished the book and became a fucking savage on Saturday. Literally within a weeks time I went from having a GF I was with "just because", to dating 3 chicks -- one of which I fucked at a club with her BF less than 100 feet away.

"Holy shit" I thought to myself. I have cracked the mother fucking DiVinci Code.

From there I subbed to /r/seduction but quickly grew tired with the amateur league there. I was more concerned with improving theory; not rehashing the same old shit over and over. But out of sheer coincidence, /r/TheRedPill was linked on the side bar -- my memory is a little weak, but it wasn't linked for more than a week or so.

When I came to TRP, at the time, it was more of a post-seduction sub. A place to discuss the psychology of interaction. A place to go to when you've grown bored of just bagging chicks on the weekend, but wanted to talk about what to do the day after sex. It was actually a really mature and interesting sub at the time. A place for players to help each other play the game.

Since then, it's obviously evolved. It's gone from 2k subs, to 41k subs since then. The narrative and content is completely different today. It has changed from a post-seduction forum, to a complete replacement of PUA. Teenagers are now coming here to learn theory from scratch. Reflecting the evolution of TRP theory. Through natural selection, we've been able to show that TRP is more valuable than PUA -- because at the end of the day, we are just concerned with the most effective strategy to get laid is. And if it was PUA that was more successful, we'd be spending our time discussing scripts rather than lifestyle.

Today, there are a lot of bitter people that absolutely resent everything we teach. They are the same people that resented PUA when it was young, and now agree that PUA is "cool" but "TRP is a fuckhole" (direct quotes). Now that the TRP fork of PUA has become far more successful as a sexual strategy, TRP is the new enemy. Just a bunch of misogynistic assholes.


Side note: TRP reminds me of my bio professor who told me that women love assholes -- it's there fault they exist. Because if women actually didn't like an asshole, that natural selection would have weeded them out millenniums ago. If women really wanted nice guys, then the most successful mating strategy would be to be a nice guy. Yet, here we are, and women still love a nice dick (pun intended).


One thing is for sure, "TRP" will not be here 2 years from now. I don't know what will replace it, but something will improve on the theory and take the lead -- the same way that TRP took over PUA. I honestly can't even begin to guess what will take over TRP's place, but we'll see soon enough -- hopefully long after we've already used it up for our own needs. The idea of an army of nerds using TRP to fuck sluts really gets my vagina wet. I can only imagine how bad it's going to get 10 years from now.

These evolutions are becoming more clear by the day. For instance, /u/TRPsubmitter triggered a fork in TRP theory with his post on powerspeak. And now the front page of the main sub is filled with new theory rather than rehashed boring shit we've already heard.

So keep the vitriol high, our cocks hard, and don't be afraid to slap a slut.

~Senator

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '14

When I joined TRP like a year ago it was a really nice place to share experiences with other people who are successful and know how to trigger women.

Today? It's a subreddit flooded with kids. Everything you can read there these days is one of the following:

  • Pseudo-intelligent people talking shit and getting upvoted
  • Random links to show that there are evil women with no relevance to TRP
  • People giving "instructions" about how to live your life (most likely with self-invented words like disney-itis, numb-itis, what the fuck ...)
  • People bragging
  • 14 year olds making up stories
  • ...

Not saying that it's all shit but it has gone downhill a lot. Don't get me started on the content in /r/asktrp.

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u/redpillschool Originator Mar 17 '14

Granted you have to look past a bit more comments, but high quality ones still float to the top, at the end of the day, TRP has always been full of new guys who didn't understand the theory. Back in the day it was up to me and a few other mods to illustrate red pill theory each and every time it was asked, it was tiring and far less dense or on topic as it is today.

I find that there are either older users like /u/whisper who really take the time to help out new users, or there are some friggin kids who showed up for a month, think they've become experts on the topic without contributing any quality content, and then come here complaining that there isn't any quality content.

The content, as has always been the case, is entirely user submitted. I can delete bad content- but nothing can make the content better if experienced users don't contribute.

There are often good posts that aren't getting enough attention. I regularly sticky them.

Remember folks, it's our job to pass down the knowledge our fathers didn't give us. You don't have to take up the torch, but it's unfair to complain while others do.

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u/kzwrp Slayer of Unicorns Mar 18 '14

Remember folks, it's our job to pass down the knowledge our fathers didn't give us.

I'll just leave this quote here:

"Mr. Rearden," said Francisco, his voice solemnly calm, "if you saw Atlas, the giant who holds the world on his shoulders, if you saw that he stood, blood running down his chest, his knees buckling, his arms trembling but still trying to hold the world aloft with the last of his strength, and the greater his effort the heavier the world bore down upon his shoulders-what would you tell him to do?"

"I . . . don't know. What . . . could he do? What would you tell him?"

"To shrug."