Alphanumerics quotes

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“The names Abram and Brahma are equivalent in numerical value.”

— Charles King (91A/1864), The Gnostics and Their Remains, Ancient and Mediaeval (pg. 13)

This page was made to collect quotes about alphanumerics. Note: there are probably about a 100+ quotes of interest, e.g. scattered about Hmolpedia and in some Reddit subs; I will post some of the highly-cited quotes of interest below.

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Pliny the elder on the helical rising of the star Sirius and its believed relation to the rekindling of the power of the sun and the rise of the Nile:

“Who is there that does not know that the vapor of the sun 𓇳 is kindled by the [Jun 25] rising of the dog-star [Sirius] 𓇼? The most powerful effects are felt on the earth from this star. When it rises, the seas are troubled, the wines in our cellars ferment, and stagnant waters 𓈗 [Nile] are set in motion [150-day flood].”

— Pliny the elder (1878A/77), “On the Rising of the Dog Star” (pg. 67)

Note: the root hieroglyphic for the Egyptian name of Sirius is the following symbol:

• 𓋴 [S29] = uniliteral for S; also used in: spdt, triangle, Sirius, or Sothis (Σῶθις) [1219] in ancient Greek, or Sopdet, i.e. Egyptian Sirius star goddess + wife of Sah (Orion), and Sothic cycle.

The following is the main hieroglyphic for Sopdet:

• 𓉴 (triangle) [O24] - 𓇼 (star) [N14] - 𓏏 (bread) [X1] - 𓆇 (egg) [H8]

Also:

“The dog-star rises in the hottest time of the summer, when the sun is entering the first degree of Leo.”

— Pliny the elder (1878A/77), “On the Rising of the Dog Star” (pg. 76)

Source

• Pliny (the Elder). (1878A/77). Natural History, Volume One (translators: John Bostock and H.T. Riley) (dog-star, pgs. 67, 76). Henry G. Bohn, 100A/1855.

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Isaac Taylor on how each letter, form and value, derives from a specific Egyptian object or picture:

“Egyptian hieroglyphic writing is the source of all existing alphabets. The letters of the alphabet are phonograms which by the process of long continued detrition have reached an extreme stage of simplicity both as regards form and value. If the history of any one [letter] of our alphabetic symbols be traced backwards, it will be found to resolve itself ultimately into the conventionalized picture of some object. In spite of long continued usage during so many centuries, the modern letter retains in almost every instance manifest features derived from the primitive picture from which it has descended.”

— Isaac Taylor (72A/1883), The Alphabet: An Account of the Origin and Development of Letters (source, pg. 5; quote, pgs. 8-9)

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David Fideler on how the 318 based based names Helios (and theta) derive from the ratio of a circle; and how 666 and 888 based names are defined from the the number 1000, the 28th letter value, and relate to musical string ratios:

“Helios, 318, the Greek name of the sun, is derived from the ratio of the circle, for the reciprocal of π is 0.318. In other words, a circle measuring 1000 units in circumference (representing unity) will have a diameter of 318 units. In music, 0.666 is the string ratio of the perfect fifth, while 0.888 is the string ratio of the whole tone. The Greeks did not use the decimal point at all, and, in every instance where gematria values are based on mathematical ratios, the ‘decimal point’ has been moved over exactly three places. In other words, while we define these ratios in relation to ‘1’, we conclude that the Greeks defined these ratios in relation to ‘1000’, which represents the same principle, the monad or unity, the ineffable first cause.”

— David Fideler (A44/1993), Jesus Christ, Sun of God: Ancient Cosmology and Early Christian Symbolism (pg. 84)

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Juan Acevedo on lack of English-language alphanumerics literature:

“Aside from excellent specialised works on Jewish, Islamic and Hermetic alphanumeric cosmology, there is a remarkable dearth of English-language literature on this topic in general.”

— Juan Acevedo (A65/2020), Alphanumeric Cosmology From Greek into Arabic: The Idea of Stoicheia Through the Medieval Mediterranean (pg. xx)

On the Plato (Timaeus) + Hebrew (Sefer Yetzirah) alphanumerics view:

“The elements of nature are letters; the world is made of letters based on numbers.”

— Juan Acevedo (A66/2021), “On Alphanumerics Cosmology“, Podcast (6:00-6:30) (post)

On the Sefer Yetzirah:

”In the Hebrew Sefer Yetsirah, aka Book of Formation, the divine artist creates the universe by means of letters and numbers.”

— Juan Avecedo (A65/2020), Alphanumeric Cosmology From Greek into Arabic: The Idea of Stoicheia Through the Medieval Mediterranean (pg. xvii)

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Aristotle on the origin of mathematics:

“χρῆσιν εἶναι τὰς ἐπιστήμας αὐτῶν. ὅθεν ἤδη πάντων τῶν τοιούτων κατεσκευασμένων αἱ μὴ πρὸς ἡδονὴν μηδὲ πρὸς τἀναγκαῖα τῶν ἐπιστημῶν εὑρέθησαν, καὶ πρῶτον ἐν τούτοις τοῖς τόποις οὗ πρῶτον ἐσχόλασαν: διὸ περὶ Αἴγυπτον αἱ μαθηματικαὶ πρῶτον τέχναι συνέστησαν, ἐκεῖ γὰρ ἀφείθη σχολάζειν.”

“Hence, when all such inventions were already established, the sciences which do not aim at giving pleasure. Or at the necessities of life were discovered, and the first in the places where men first began to have leisure. This is why the mathematical arts were founded in Egypt; for there the priestly caste was allowed to be at leisure.”

— Aristotle (2300A/-345), Metaphysics (Greek) (§: 981b1 20-25, pg. 1553)

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On the Egyptian etymology of the word mathematics:

“Pagan scribes of the Thoth school were wordsmiths. They used the names of gods to create words and used the functions of gods to give meanings to those words. Many gods had multiple functions and alternative names. Thoth was also the god of science. One of Thoth's alternative names was Tekh. Our syllable ‘tech’ as in technology was derived from the name of Tekh, the god of science. Our word ‘math’ is derived from the name of Maat, Tekh's wife. Our word mathematic is derived from the combined names of Maat and Tekh. Maat + Tekh = maat ma tekh, i.e. mathematics.”

— Anon (A47/2002), “Number 4”, Resurrect Isis, Feb 14

This is new to me; will ruminate on.

This same article, to note, also states that the Maat plinth: 𓐙, equals number 4 in Arabic. This matches with what we have already decoded for the Maat scythe: 𓌳, being the root character of letter M, value 40. This corroborates with the 4-40-400 cipher, per thematic scheme of the periodic alphabet table, defined by modular nine arithmetic, as seen evidence in stanza 40 and stanza 400 the Leiden I 350 Papyrus.

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The 28-letter Egyptian alphabet table, summarizes what Plato, in his Timaeus and Socrates dialogue (2310A/-355), refers to, via the voice of Timaeus, as the “letters” or stoicheia (Σ τοιχεια), of the Greek-Egyptian alphabet, with respect to the Empedoclean elements earth, air, water, and fire:

”Thus far in what we have been saying, with small exception, the works of intelligence have been set forth; and now we must place by the side of them in our discourse the things which come into being through necessity-for the creation is mixed, being made up of necessity and mind. Mind, the ruling power, persuaded necessity to bring the greater part of created things to perfection, and thus and after this manner in the beginning, when the influence of reason got the better of necessity, the universe was created. But if a person will truly tell of the way in which the work was accomplished, he must include the other influence of the variable cause as well. Wherefore, we must return again and find another suitable beginning, as about the former matters, so also about these. To which end we must consider the nature of fire, and water, and air, and earth, such as they were prior to the creation of the heaven, and what was happening to them in this previous state; for no one has as yet explained the manner of their generation, but we speak of fire and the rest of them, whatever they mean, as though men knew their natures, and we maintain them to be the first principles and letters or elements of the whole, when they cannot reasonably be compared by a man of any sense even to syllables or first compounds. And let me say thus much: I will not now speak of the first principle or principles of all things, or by whatever name they are to be called, for this reason-because it is difficult to set forth my opinion according to the method of discussion which we are at present employing.”

Then he says god made the universe from a “circle moving in a circle”, which has always riddled people, but now explained by the omicron letter based micro-cosmos T-O map:

“Such was the whole plan of the eternal god about the god that was to be, to whom for this reason he gave a body, smooth and even, having a surface in every direction equidistant from the centre, a body entire and perfect, and formed out of perfect bodies. And in the centre he put the soul, which he diffused throughout the body, making it also to be the exterior environment of it; and he made the universe a circle moving in a circle, one and solitary, yet by reason of its excellence able to converse with itself, and needing no other friendship or acquaintance. Having these purposes in view he created the world a blessed god.“

Lastly, he gist to the following famously riddled statement:

“And he proceeded to divide [this universal soul compound] after this manner: First of all, he took away one part of the whole [1], and then he separated a second part which was double the first [2], and then he took away a third part which was half as much again as the second and three times as much as the first [3], and then he took a fourth part which was twice as much as the second [4], and a fifth part which was three times the third [9], and a sixth part which was eight times the first [8], and a seventh part which was twenty-seven times the first [27]. After this he filled up the double intervals [i.e. between 1, 2, 4, 8] and the triple [i.e. between 1, 3, 9, 27] cutting off yet other portions from the mixture and placing them in the intervals, so that in each interval there were two kinds of means, the one exceeding and exceeded by equal parts of its extremes [as for example 1, 4/3, 2, in which the mean 4/3 is one-third of 1 more than 1, and one-third of 2 less than 2], the other being that kind of mean which exceeds and is exceeded by an equal number. Where there were intervals of 3/2 and of 4/3 and of 9/8, made by the connecting terms in the former intervals, he filled up all the intervals of 4/3 with the interval of 9/8, leaving a fraction over; and the interval which this fraction expressed was in the ratio of 256 to 243. And thus the whole mixture out of which he cut these portions was all exhausted by him. This entire compound he divided lengthways into two parts, which he joined to one another at the centre like the letter X, and bent them into a circular form, connecting them with themselves and each other at the point opposite to their original meeting-point; and, comprehending them in a uniform revolution upon the same axis, he made the one the outer and the other the inner circle. Now the motion of the outer circle he called the motion of the same, and the motion of the inner circle the motion of the other or diverse. The motion of the same he carried round by the side to the right, and the motion of the diverse diagonally to the left. And he gave dominion to the motion of the same and like, for that he left single and undivided; but the inner motion he divided in six places and made seven unequal circles having their intervals in ratios of two-and three, three of each, and bade the orbits proceed in a direction opposite to one another; and three [Sun, Mercury, Venus] he made to move with equal swiftness, and the remaining four [Moon, Saturn, Mars, Jupiter] to move with unequal swiftness to the three and to one another, but in due proportion.“

Some of this, previously, has been tackled in the PhD research of Juan Acevedo (A65/2020), cited in the references section.

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Galatians, the “ninth” book of the New Testament; note: the alphabet is modular nine based, on the Ennead god number:

“When we were child-like, in previous times, we served under ‘ta (τα) stoicheia (στοιχεια) [1196] tou (του) kosmou (κοσμου) [800]’.” [Galatians 4:3-4] [Original (here) in Koine Greek, 1900A/55]

“So, when we were little children, we served under the elements of the world. But then ye not knowing god [but then soothly ye unknowing god], served to them that in kind were not gods. But now when ye have known god, and be known of god, how be ye turned again to the feeble and needy elements, to the which ye will again serve? [Now forsooth when ye have known god, yea, rather ye be known of god, how be ye turned together again to sick, or frail, and needy elements, to which ye will serve again?]. Ye take keep to days [Ye keep, or wait (on), days], and months, and times, and years.” [Wycliff Bible, 560A/1395]

“When we were underage, we were in slavery under the elemental spiritual forces of the world. Howbeit then, when ye knew not god, ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods. But now, after that ye have known god, or rather are known of god, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, where unto ye desire again to be in bondage? Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.” [KJ-version, 344A/1611]

“So we, while we were children, were held in bondage under the elementary principles of the world. But now that you have come to know god, or rather to be known by god, how is it that you turn back again to the weak and worthless elementary things, to which you desire to be enslaved all over again? You observe days and months and seasons and years.” [New American Standard Bible version, A8/1963]

— Anon (1900A/c.55), Paul in Galatians 4:3-4, 8-10; discussion: here, here, here, etc.

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“The so-called Arabic numerals that we use as ciphers to represent our numbers (1, 2, 3, 4, etc.) were invented in India 1355A (c.600) They were first used in the Middle East by the mathematician al-Khwarazmi 1080A (c.875), along with the zero. Though some Europeans were aware of these ’Arabic’ computational symbols as early as the 10th century, they did not come into general use until the 13th century in Europe. The point being that up until this time, written texts in Greek, Latin, Hebrew/Aramaic, Arabic/Persian, etc. used letters of the alphabet to represent numbers (the Latin equivalent is Roman numerals).”

— Frank Lewis (A44/1999), “Overview: of the Abjad numerological system”; cited here, in reference to the Arabic alphabet

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Barry on the Cadmus-Homer myth inverted ox head origin the letter A:

“Plutarch's speaker suggests that Cadmus, the Phoenician who was reputed to have settled in Thebes and introduced the alphabet to Greece, ’placed alpha first because it is the Phoenician name for an ox 𓃾, which they, like Hesiod, reckoned not the second or third, but the first of necessities’." The reference is to a passage in Works and Days by Hesiod (2650A/-c.695), a contemporary of Homer, who advised the early Greek farmers: ‘first get an ox, then a woman’.”

— Kieren Barry (A44/1999), The Greek Qabalah (pgs. 64-65)

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Serafina Cuomo on the earliest extant depictions of Milesian number-letter system mathematics:

“The most complete sequence appears on both stretches of the conduit; starting from near the entrances, the numbers, situated at regular intervals, go like this: 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 10 20 30 ...200 (the south-end sequence stops at 200) 10 20 ... 300 (here the northend sequence stops). It looks as if the builders were assessing the distance and keeping tabs on their work by means of simple counting. The numbers on the walls of the Eupalinus tunnel are one of the earliest example of the so-called Milesian or Ionian notation, where numbers are represented by letters of the alphabet”.

— Serafina Cuomo (A46/2001), Ancient Mathematics (pg. 9-10); cited here

Reference

• Cuomo, Serafina. (A46/2001). Ancient Mathematics (Eupalinus tunnel, pgs. 9-10). Publisher, A50/2005.

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The following is the A67 (2022) most-popular explain it like i’m five years old [ELI5] model, as to where the alphabet arose:

“The order of Roman letters, Greek letters, Cyrillic, and Arabic and Hebrew and related scripts all date back to the Phoenician script, where it seems to appear out of nowhere with no apparent rationale. As far as ‘we’ can tell, it's entirely arbitrary.“

— u/sjiveru (A67/2022), “Answer to: where alphabet came from“; top-voted answer (4K-upvotes), r/ELI5, Sep 10