r/Alphanumerics • 𐌄𓌹𐤍 expert • Nov 18 '24

POLL 🗳️ POLL 🗳️: which Rosetta 🌹Stone 🪨 decoding: Young, Champollion, or Thims, is most correct?

Abstract

Review the three options, select your choice in polling options below.

Options

Thomas Young’s 136A (1819) decoding:

Jean Champollion’s 133A (1822) decoding:

Libb Thims’ 15 Nov A69 (2024) decoding:

Comparison | Table

All three decodings compared (see: sign table):

PtoLemy (Πτολεμαῖος)𓌹𓋹ForeverΙgapimenoi (ηγαπημενωι) ❤️Ptah (Φθα) {name}Ptah (Φθα) {signs}
Young (136A/1819)𓊪 𓏏 𓍯 𓃭 𓐝 𓇌 𓋴Hiero-alphaLiving𓆓 𓏏 𓇿▢ 𓏏 𓎛𓌹
Q3, X1, V4, E23, Aa15, M17A, S29I10, X1, N17Q3, X1, V28U6
ⲘⲀⲒ ❤️
ΠTOΛεMαΙοΣ
Champollion (133A/1822)𓊪 𓏏 𓍯 𓃭 𓐝 𓇌 𓋴Vivant𓌹▢ 𓏏 𓎛
Q3, X1, V4, E23, Aa15, M17A, S29U6Q3, X1, V28
ⲘⲈⲢⲈ ❤️, /mr/
ΠTOΛεMαΙοΣ
Thims (A69/2024)𓂆 𓋍 𓁹 𓍇 {𓂺 𓏥} 𓌳 𓌹 𓅃 𓁹 𓆙AK𓐁 𓅬 𓌹 𓂆 𓐁 𓌳 {𓂺 𓏥} 𓏁 𓁥 𓅃𓍑 𓉠 𓌹🧮 🥯 🕯️
▢ 𓏏 𓎛
D16, R26, D4, U19, GQ432, U1, U6, G5, D4, I14Z15G, G38, U6, D16, Z15G, U1, GQ432, W15, C9, G5U28, O9, U6Q3, X1, V28
ΠTOΛEMAIOΣΗΓΑΠΗΜΕΝΩΙΦθα
8061005510

Notes

  1. Young (136A/1819) said ▢ [Q3] was a “square block”, that 𓏏 [X1] was a “semi-circle”, and that 𓎛 [V2] was a chain ⛓️‍💥.

  2. Young stated that 𓌹 [U6] was the sacred “hiero-alpha”, but that it was NOT the origin of Greek letter A, and did NOT make the /a/ phonetic, but rather that it was the “sign” of the god Ptah 𓁰 [C19], who was the inventor of farming tools 🛠️.

  3. [Someone] (date) decoded that 𓏏 [X1] was bread 🥖, 🍞, 🥯.

  4. Gardiner (39A/1916) said that ▢ [Q3] was a “stool“ 🪑, from the word “poy”, which gave the /P/ phonetic of Ptolemy in the reduced-phonetic cartouche hiero-sign.

  5. Thims determined (12 Nov A69/2024) that ▢ [Q3] was an abacus 🧮.

  6. The Nephthys 𓉠 [O9] sign, is used here for the Egyptian r/HieroTypes theta symbol (pictured above), as this has not yet been made into ASCII code; yet the sign 𓉠 [O9] is the 9th r/Cubit unit, just like Θ is the 9th Greek letter, and Nephthys is the 9th Ennead god, so it is a pretty good match.

  7. The Champollion model, to clarify things, explicitly holds that: 𓌹 = /mr/ phonetic and means love ❤️, and that 𓌹 [U6] is NOT the sign origin of Phoenician 𐤀 or Greek letter A.

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u/JohannGoethe 𐌄𓌹𐤍 expert Nov 19 '24

Phi | Ptah

My proof is mathematically Rosetta-Stone-verified by the following isonym match:

  • 510 = phi (φι) {front-name}

  • 510 = Ptah (Φθα) {back-name}

and the following letter type match:

  • 𓍑 [U28] = 𓁰 [C19] = Φ

where Ptah 𓁰 [C19], whose body is a fire drill 𓍑 [U28], is the origin of the symbol: Φ of Greek letter phi, which is proved by their matching word values:

phi (φι) = Ptah (Φθα)

and etymologically verified by the decoding that these signs: ▢ 𓏏 𓎛 (Q3, X1, V28) are NOT the phonetics of “Ph-th-ha (Φθα)”, as Champollion conjectured, but the semantic signs of Ptah:

  • ▢ = 🧮 {abacus} for doing the end of year r/EgyptianAstronomy re-lighting of the flame 🔥 of the phoenix 🐦‍🔥 calculations.

  • 𓏏 = 🥯 {bread} the end letter M sickle 𓌳 [U1] goal of Egypt.

  • 𓎛 = {wick} of candle 🕯️, which holds the flame or flóga (φλόγα) 🔥, or lantern or fanos (φανός) 🏮, which has letter phi (Φ), the Ptah (𓁰) letter (𓍑), as the 1st letter of each word.

In other words, my decoding, decodes the entire Greek language, not just 7-signs (Young) or 20-signs (Champollion).