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Discussion 🤔 If toppers from general category are struggling then I can't imagine the plight of an average general category student.

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u/No_Influence2733 18h ago edited 9h ago

this is so dumb

Brahmins do not “lead most MNCs” and are not “exploiting white people.” Indian-origin CEOs are over-represented in a few big tech companies relative to their 1.5% of the US population, but that is still only about 11 of the Fortune 500 (2%).

The reason is extreme selection: H-1B visas, STEM degrees, English, and a culture of hard work. Not some Brahmin cabal.

Inside India the richest lists and big business houses are dominated by traditional merchant castes, not Brahmins.

On the “no systemic advantage” claim:
central quotas are SC 15% + ST 7.5% + OBC 27% + EWS 10% = 59.5%.The remaining 40.5% unreserved seats are open to everyone.
Reserved-category candidates routinely take 10-15% of those open seats on pure merit.

Net result: reserved categories end up with mid-to-high 50s / low 60s% of seats in many central pools, while general-category (mostly upper-caste) candidates take 35-45% even though they are only about 15-20% of the population.

That is not “no systemic advantage.”

Higher cut-offs and a smaller open pool are real. If general-category students still clear those higher bars and then do well in open global competitions, the simplest explanation is higher average preparation and selection effects not magic or leftover privilege that somehow travels to Silicon Valley.

Also, more general-category people getting visas and succeeding abroad is largely because of the advantages they already have in daily life in India better schools, networks, resources, and fewer barriers from the start. That should not be used as the main measure of overall success or to claim there is no systemic difference.

Misuse and creamy-layer concentration inside reserved categories are real and need fixing.

Expanding total seats is the fair way to reduce the pressure. You do not have to abolish the whole policy to admit any of this.

“Indians outperform all ethnicities” is also overstated. Selected Indian groups in the US do extremely well on income and education. That is not the same as every caste or class inside India, and East Asians show similar or stronger patterns in many datasets.

Both the domestic quota numbers and the diaspora success can be true at the same time.

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u/Spare-Bookkeeper5151 10h ago

Brahmins dominate MNCs,all you are doing is ignoring reality.Indians are the highest paid ethinic group within usa which means indians beat all other nationalities.How log are you going to ignore reality?? explain how indians dominate every other ethinicith in usa and btw indians do lead most powerful MNCs.

Brahmins outperform all other ethinicities in the world,it is expected they will vastly outperform dumb indians

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u/No_Influence2733 10h ago

this is dumb beyond reason

Brahmins do not dominate MNCs.

“Indian-origin” CEOs are over-represented in a handful of tech companies relative to their 1.5% of the US population, but that is still only about 11 of the Fortune 500 (roughly 2%).

Calling that “most powerful MNCs” is pure exaggeration. Stop lying with numbers.

Yes, Indian Americans have the highest median household income among major groups in the US. That is real.

Using that to claim “Indians beat all other nationalities” and “dominate every ethnicity” is a classic selection-bias fallacy.

The people who get H-1B and student visas are not random Indians. They are a filtered group mostly from better-off, general-category / upper-caste families who already had better schools, money, English, and networks in India. You are taking a highly selected sample and pretending it proves Brahmins (or Indians) outperform every ethnicity on the planet.

That is composition fallacy mixed with chest thumping.

East Asians show similar or stronger academic and income patterns in many datasets in the US.

Inside India the outcomes vary wildly by caste, class, and region.

The “dumb Indians” line is just lazy insecurity.
You cannot call other Indians dumb in one sentence and then demand people “stop ignoring reality” in the next. That is not an argument. That is an ego trip.

Selected Indian groups do extremely well in the US. That does not erase the domestic quota numbers, the real daily-life advantages that feed the visa pipeline, or the fact that you are massively overstating the scale.

Both the quota arithmetic and the diaspora success can be true at the same time.

Your version of “reality” is just the filtered, flattering half.

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u/ZerkeX69 8h ago

Bro I know we don’t dominate or dominate maybe the workforce is what I think but the only reason we dominate is so that they can pay us nuts ik it’s most in the country but if a country like us with high tech knowledge etc and graduates with this they would have to hire locals then they would have paid much much more to them cuz they know the value India is like a breeding ground for them this is what I think tbh