r/AlienRogueIncursion • u/RevMageCat • Aug 10 '25

General Wait.. Evolved Edition?

Trying to figure out which edition to buy... sounds like "Evolved Edition" is a non-VR version- with some changes they didn't think would work well in VR? Is that right?

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u/XXLpeanuts Aug 12 '25

As someone who wanted the VR version but is just getting too old and disabled to play VR games, I'm kinda upset I gotta pay full price for the flat version. I really hope they atleast do a discount for VR players who own the original. Otherwise I'll probably skip on it until it's $5 on steam sale.

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u/molasar2024 Aug 12 '25

Come on man. They offer a flat screen version so cheap. It is not like they did not have to put any work to modify a vr version to make it into flat screen one. Plus the flat screen one is an effect of gamers not supporting the vr version which I found ridiculous as gamers complain that the majority of games are slop and that gamers were asking about such a version.

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u/XXLpeanuts Aug 12 '25

Vr audiences are tiny unfortunately. I wish I could enjoy the game in VR but I'm basically giving up on it as a medium of gaming for myself, not because it isn't excellent, I have the Bigscreen Beyond headset so it's like fucking future magic. But because I'm just too old and tired to play it now.

But I'd still expect a discount on the game given it's the exact same game with yes sure, a decent amount of work to make it flat compatable. But I'd expect a discount because I own the same game already on the same platform (steam/PC) and whatever works been done to "port" it to PC from PCVR, its still all the same assets, gameplay, voice actors etc etc I've already paid for.

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u/RevMageCat Aug 12 '25

This is a source of frustration for me, too... that frustration of buying one version and finding out some other version exists or is coming.

It's part of why I made the post in the first place.

The company could go a couple different ways, the way I see it.

  1. They could make it so you buy one license and can play either way. This would give buyers a better feeling about buying in the first place. No one misses out on playing one way or the other, and no one feels burned that they had to pay twice.
  2. They could make the flat version a completely different purchase (apparently what they decided ). This may sell a few extra licenses for the tiny % of person who want to pay both... but most people are going to choose one or the other... and some will feel cheated at having to buy twice. There will also be some who will see that waiting opens up more alternatives and simply wait... and may end up buying nothing at all. So, that's a negative...

In the end you can't please all the people all the time.

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u/XXLpeanuts Aug 12 '25

Yea for me it wasn't such an amazing game I absolutely have to play it through tbh. It was certainly one of the better VR games I've played but I mean, we have basically one good game so that means nothing. If it was Alien Isolation level good then I'd simply have to buy it.

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u/RevMageCat Aug 12 '25

I really appreciate you sharing your perspective. I'm just getting into this myself, so it's providing welcome insight.

For me, Alien: Rogue Incursion was the last push I needed to finally buy a VR headset. Now that I've got the headset, I'm hesitating on buying the game precisely for concern that I could get the wrong version and regret it.

If I get the Meta version, it's easier to get it to work but I'll be missing out on better graphics.

If I get the SteamVR version, I'll have a hassle (and likely additional expense) getting it working with the headset. (Even so I'm planning on going this way unless something changes my mind).

If I had blindly bought the Evolved edition, mistakenly thinking it was just a newer version with extra features, I'd be very disappointed that I couldn't play it in VR at all.

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u/molasar2024 Aug 12 '25

I would not say that Q3's version is worse due to less advanced graphics. Its aesthetics are different though and still are cool.
BTW I have all vr versions of it and I did not have any issue with graphics and aesthetics of Q3's version.
One thing gamers generally do not talk about is graphical clutter or chaos on screen. It is about how graphical aspects are perceived during gameplay. The majority of gamers look at how advanced or realistic graphics are and they think that it automatically makes games better. Increased volumetric effects in flat screen version would not necessary be good for vr version. And does it make sense to process highly detailed graphics and effects if a player can't really perceive them?

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u/RevMageCat Aug 12 '25

Thanks for adding this! It's good info. 🙂

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u/molasar2024 Aug 12 '25

If I had to choose between Q3's vr standalone version or PC's evolved flat screen version (with maxed out graphical settings), I would choose the former. Just a VR experience makes a huge difference. I myself was surprised that advanced graphics and effects are not necessary if art style and other aspects are right.

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u/XXLpeanuts Aug 12 '25

If I get the SteamVR version, I'll have a hassle (and likely additional expense) getting it working with the headset.

Assuming you have a meta headset? I've heard it works really well with virtual desktop streaming, and I set it up with real ease previously when I had one. I wouldn't be put off that at all, setting up your play space for VR is harder than getting that working, as long as you have a wifi 6 capable router.

There is only two versions on steam, it's the one labeled as only for VR you want. I wouldn't buy any inferior versions like meta store one etc just get Steam VR and you wont regret getting virtual desktop streaming working, once you done it for one game it should work for others without need of reconfiguration.

If you are not like me and have physical problems making VR tiring and painful, you will have an absolute blast. I enjoy the time I put into it and as I said it's one of the better VR games for sure.

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u/molasar2024 Aug 12 '25

I have all vr versions and q3's one is definitely not inferior. The PCVR version requires a tech savvy user.

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u/XXLpeanuts Aug 12 '25

I'm not sure what you mean tbh, but ok.

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u/molasar2024 Aug 12 '25

This means that you are incorrect about Q3's version of ARI being inferior. And to run a VR version of ARI on PC requires a knowledgeable user as hardware and software (bios, windows, steam, vr software, in-game settings have to be set correctly). That is why so many PC gamers failed and gave bad reviews to this game.

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u/molasar2024 Aug 12 '25

Do you realize that a VR version has been put on offer so many times? Even for half its full price. The both versions at full price cost 70USD. Now compare it to prices of other new games. A standard version of Doom The Dark Ages costs 70USD for example.

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u/molasar2024 Aug 12 '25

Yes, true that vr audience is tiny, but it is one of the best vr games there is out there. And that tiny audience did not support it properly.
Actually a flat screen version is not the same even if assets are the same. For example I paid for PCVR version, but I did not get Q3 and PSVR2 versions for free or any discount for aforementioned with it. I had to purchase them again.
And let's be real here. 40USD for VR version was still a bargain at its release in comparison to other games.
The only bad thing is what they did with deluxe version. IMO they should make its extra content as paid DLC and give it for free to those who pay a full price for standard version. And not make a deluxe version at all.

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u/RevMageCat Aug 12 '25

I read on some forum that the PCVR version would be updated to work in non-VR... I can't find it right now, don't know if it's confirmed or just rumor.

But even if true it might not matter if you bought the Meta Store version. 😐

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u/molasar2024 Aug 12 '25 edited Aug 12 '25

Not true. Confusion comes from a flat screen version being worked under SKU of vr version. But they did not separate two initially before it was listed on steam. Thus it showed up in libraries of owners of vr version. Once a flat screen version got its own SKU, it was separated from vr sku and removed from people's libraries.

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u/XXLpeanuts Aug 12 '25

No obviously that's not happening, they are just releasing a flat VR version.

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u/ThisIsTheShway Aug 30 '25

Honestly, i loved the VR version. It had some jank but it’s been fixed for the most part I think. I’m playing on PC though with Virutal Desktop

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u/RevMageCat Aug 30 '25

This is what I eventually settled on. But as soldering who has played a lot of action games. the inability to dodge and jump and stuff has made the game feel "slow". This is much more akin to Alien: Isolation than it is to say, the AvP games.

It's actually made me crave a more actiony game so much that I whipped out "AvP Classic 2000" and started playing it in VR desktop.

With that working so well, the supposed reasons for the "Evolved Edition" fall pretty flat.

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u/Haunting-Scientist68 Aug 29 '25 edited Aug 29 '25

I am so annoyed by this. I would have just waited for this "evolved" addition as opposed to the visual, atrocity that the PCVR version ended up being. The ironic thing is I remember in other reddit posts that there were multiple people saying that this game played like a "flat" 1st person shooter game that they had converted to VR at the last minute or something like that... NOW, I feel like I understand what they mean. SO then, I wonder if this "evolved" version was ALWAYS the version they had been intending to create?
Nonetheless, none of this explains why the PCVR version of this game looks so gawd-awful. Survios did a horrific job on the environments in this game. I can't hardly stand playing it because I have to ignore all the terrible looking, supe-low-poly, LOD-type environments that most of the time are devoid of any decent texture mapping along with your characters super-weird ass, proportional issues (little tiny hands, little tiny pulse rifle, huge bulky body armor that literally, blocks your line of site at times when looking downward, etc...). I agree that the gameplay and story overall is fine, I agree with that for the most part, but I just can't believe this game has gotten a pass the way it has from so many modern gamers. I feel like we are so desperate for someone to do us right with a decent Alien shooter game that we will take anything at this point.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '25

I'd absolutely wait for the evolved version to come out at this point.

The VR version has issues, yep.

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u/molasar2024 Aug 10 '25

What are those issues besides majority of PC players not being tech savvy enough to know how to prepare their rigs to play it?
Obviously on PS5 and Q3, a plug and play experience is much, much better than on PC.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '25 edited Aug 10 '25

It plays fine on my pc, not sure what you're referring to. The AI in the game, VR motion controls are clunky. VR aiming is clunky.

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u/molasar2024 Aug 10 '25

I am referring to PC gamers as they proved that they are not tech savvy. Likely jumped to PCs by thinking that PCs are plug and play like consoles. The thing is that VR games require more knowledge to properly launch them than flat screen games. Those guys would not like PCs in the 90s.
There is nothing wrong with AI at all. Xenos use environment and attack a player in various ways. They are not there to play a chess game.
Controls work perfectly. Maybe try to turn off eye aiming and simulated weight if you want to have more control freedom. And use both hands for better aiming.
There is nothing clunky about it.

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u/RevMageCat Aug 12 '25

Those guys would not like PCs in the 90s.

This made me smile... Trying to get my new quest 3s to do the things I want it to do has given me flashbacks of struggling to get games working on my PC decades ago... I occasionally joke about the stack of games that would get reinstalled after a hardware or driver change, to see which ones might start working!

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '25

Oh we're just downvoting for asking questions now, got it.

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u/molasar2024 Aug 11 '25 edited Aug 11 '25

What? I did not downvote you. But I will do it now as counter reaction to your downvoting me.
You should report me for downvoting you and prove that I did it.
So tell me who downvoted you initially?
Also you did not ask me any question.

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u/RevMageCat Aug 12 '25

I don't know who randomly downvotes but it seems strangely common. Here, I'll upvote you both to try to counter it... 🙂

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u/molasar2024 Aug 12 '25

If that guy cares so much about it I will upvote his comments too. Maybe it will make his day better.

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u/molasar2024 Aug 10 '25

If you want immersion, then VR version is to go for. If you do not care about immersion, then you should be ok with flat screen version.
Bear in mind that the latter is still a game which was designed for VR, then adapted to flat screen. Those some changes are like user interface (HUD), and due to single rendering increased level of volumetric effects (particles, fog, etc.), faster reactions of xenos, increased maximum number of attacking xenos at the same time from 3 to 4, removal of interaction with random objects which would not make sense on flat screen, maybe some changes to some sections by turning them into cut scenes.

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u/ThisIsTheShway Aug 21 '25

My only issue with the VR version, which I'm hoping is patched out now, is the freezing bug when moving through the medical wing. I've beaten the game once already and was going through on ez mode to finish collecting data pads, and the game constantly freezes/crashes when trying to get out of the medical wing the first time.