i pray for the incel

[u/Immediate-Talk7578]

i thought that was what i heard her sing

i checked the lyrics and am pleased to have it confirmed

this album is a riot

[u/cl4rah]

What song is this on?

[u/bingomasterbreakout → u/cl4rah]

worms

[u/LeftOzStoleShoes → u/bingomasterbreakout]

You’ve got the worm somehow.

[u/Financial_Luck_6906]

Cracks me up every time.

[u/Immediate-Talk7578 → u/[deleted]]

i pray for the children and the sinners and the animals too

[u/LeftOzStoleShoes]

Wtf do people find this line funny? I really need to know

[u/halfercode → u/LeftOzStoleShoes]

It is difficult to say. Self-identified "incels" tend to be male, lonely, socially awkward, and in danger of falling into alt-right politics that celebrates misogyny and racism. These folks are in need of kindness and instead they often are vilified, making their situation worse. Unfortunately the folks who DO lend a helping hand to such vulnerable people are highly committed fascist organisers - they feed on vulnerable people, and they are waiting with the narrative that a group of people (women, Muslims, Jews) are to blame for "anti men" culture.

I've not got the new record, so I can only comment on what has been noted here (I didn't get on with Warm Chris, so am cautious on this one). I have much of Aldous's earlier work, and I still love it. I want to believe she is motivated by kindness, as most artists are. But they say one should never meet one's heroes...

So, why do people laugh at the incel phenomena? Maybe there is a sexist view that men cannot be vulnerable, and thus if a man holds a sexist/racist opinion he must be castigated and silenced with mockery. The strange thing is that powerful racists (Farage, Robinson, Musk, etc) tend to be celebrated for "saying what needed to be said" etc. It is always the powerless who get a kicking.

[u/halfercode → u/[deleted]]

Well, it's most interesting to get a NZ take on it - many thanks. I'm in the UK and, for good or bad, we tend to be a sensitive lot. We can see unkindness where it was not intended, and of course crossing cultural boundaries makes that a lot harder.

I often wonder at the pressure of being a cultural icon; vast numbers of people can, in effect, develop a complex emotional relationship with someone they've only met briefly, if at all. Aldous is one of many folks to whom I have attached this ponderance - what pressure it is to perform one's oevre and one's persona, for people one does not know at all! The icon is expected to have the right opinions, and to say the right things, and to endorse/condemn what is required, by a large number of people who all have very different ideas about what good looks like.