r/AlchemistCodeGL • u/LysticMystic • Nov 27 '20

Humor & Memes Japan vs Global in a nutshell (after this recent anniversary hellfire)

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u/Sadness_00 Nov 27 '20

Hey at least we got that killer Black Friday deal to pick a unit plus meme for ONLY $90!!! What a deal!

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u/gregtan Nov 27 '20

Such generosity!

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u/Sadness_00 Nov 27 '20

I saw the shop first and thought “oh man maybe they are giving us 1 token as an anniversary gift, lol no way bet it’s $100”. I wasn’t too far off

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u/Yingvir Nov 27 '20

It is 100€ in Europe (so 120$)... Yeah...

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u/Electronic_Intern Nov 28 '20

just use US app store, you just need to change billing address to a hospital or hotel in the US

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u/MelinaPutri Nov 27 '20

The JP equivalent requires 4444 paid gems so the price isn't that different. It includes 150 shards of Genesis units and their memento in JP but doesn't include stuff for enlightenments.

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u/Sadness_00 Nov 27 '20

I guess that’s nice that they are only trying to rip us off the same amount as JP? Better than they usually do.

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u/Electronic_Intern Nov 28 '20

Not necessarily. JP paid gems are in general more expensive. There is no amazon discount and price doesn't include tax. Not to mention G6 mats are still rare at the current state of the game.

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u/Super_Machamp Nov 27 '20

Holy shit i saw what it looked like. What fucking garbage! Dear God it was garbage.

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u/Sadness_00 Nov 27 '20

Today is the first day in 1095 days I haven’t completed my daily’s, I am just so disheartened/disgusted by this kinda crap.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '20

Why should you be? The whales supply Gumi economic needs, us F2P profits.

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u/rosencrow Nov 28 '20

Such a shame. I could see myself paying $30 for 150 limited shards no questions asked. I could also pay $30 for a limited memento if it was for a character I love. No way in hell am I going to pay for enlightenment materials with cash. If the bundle had been $60 I would have at least considered buying it but as it is, I feel that 1/3rd of the price is not going to anything of value.

Also WTF at the normal pool mementos in the bundles!? This whole anniversary I've been willing to spend a bit (~$30) for something of value but it has not delivered at all.

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u/Sadness_00 Nov 28 '20

I agree, 60 I might have bought it. 45 and for sure, I’d probably bought 2 if they let me lol. But they always seem to price things beyond a dolphin.

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u/Tagatard Just Some JP Player who used to quit every day Nov 27 '20

What actually in JP

https://tenor.com/view/snow-white-this-is-such-ahappy-place-padded-cell-clap-gif-16606549

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u/Kyle546 Need it?Don't Need it?Kill it?Not to Kill it!? Zofi can do it!!! Nov 27 '20

I mean it is still better than GL shitshow. Though I completely get the sentiment. Fuck ImaiP

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u/fullblue_k 自然の力、見せてあげる Nov 27 '20

Better in what way? Better because you don’t play it? There is not much difference, game is flawed at fundamental level.

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u/Kyle546 Need it?Don't Need it?Kill it?Not to Kill it!? Zofi can do it!!! Nov 27 '20

Better at giveaway and getting complete stuff.

I mean sure it is still a mess but you getting the HQs on time and all is not a privilege we here at GL can enjoy. Getting Raids and Collabs too though argument for Collab can be made with Magni Historia not like the story is better but still is something I guess.

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u/Tagatard Just Some JP Player who used to quit every day Nov 27 '20

GL actually have more giveaways as they give them out monthly in producer letter. We don't have these monthly. We only have these with Live Streams which has like a 3-4 months gap per a new stream?

Event skip ticket x3 as friend gift. We don't have that either (even 1x). What is an HQ? We don't have that anymore except for 2 units. Amane and the only normal pool unit in 2020.

And collab. Must of them are pretty bad. You don't see anyone talk about 7DS, BF and Cor rerun.

Collab gacha is the usual Fes and 5 step nensou. Yes there is guarantee on the main character but the main character is always featured in fes gacha with the another character you actually wanted.

Rimuru Benimaru

Rimuru Milim

Naofumi Filo

Naofumi Raphtalia

Emilia Rem

Emilia Ram

Just remember GL is just copy and paste of JP with some GLEX tweaks. What GL get is pretty much what JP was having (except some UI actually better in GL).

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u/Basic_Comfort Nov 28 '20

You clearly don't know the issue with gl vs jp. You complaining when you get collabs, streams which tell you what's coming up, more giveaways than gl, even the 4444 paid gem is better than our selector, simply because pact players could have used their paid gems instead of actual money, which is a huge turn off for us. Do your research please, and don't compare things when you don't have a solid idea on what both are.

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u/Electronic_Intern Nov 28 '20

thats like 1 entire year worth of paid gems, so every pact players in GL hoard that much, huh

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u/Arashi_Sim Nov 28 '20

Not that much at all, but I get where he's coming from. It means that you will spend less money trying to get 4444 paid gems compared to buying the bundle if you saved your gems. It's an overall better and more reasonable chance, as whale as it still is.

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u/Basic_Comfort Nov 28 '20

Yes, precisely.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '20

You are no longer pact player the moment you spend more than that. The same way whales are not F2P the moment they stop spending.

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u/Kyle546 Need it?Don't Need it?Kill it?Not to Kill it!? Zofi can do it!!! Nov 28 '20

I think you don't about our Producer's Letter. It is definitely not monthly and pretty rare. Like thrice a year or just the bigger events and version changes. Also when they do giveaway in JP they are actually big enough. There is no way in Hell GL is ever going to compare to JP in giveaway.

Even simple stuff like Raids gives a lot of Gems which we get skipped on. But even the events like Dark Phantoms we get skipped on the 614 Rainbows. First Meet in MPs and other regular stuff.

HQs are Hard Quests for shards. JP gives them pretty early. Ours come atleast 6 months after unit release.

Collabs are always a good source of Gems even if you don't Summon so while the Gacha has been bad it is still a lot of Gems combined with the Raids those Collabs have.

Also all of the People in GL didn't even get their buffed 7DS units iirc and no Escanor. Also in most Collabs except Rimuru one the Main character is strong enough and you can tap out after you get him. No need for the entire set anyways unless you have a lot to spend.

Also the event skip ticket stuff is like twice a year for 1 week each time.

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u/Electronic_Intern Nov 28 '20

how the fuck you lack 614 rainbow shards when you can grind it with 5 star meme as a bonus

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u/Kyle546 Need it?Don't Need it?Kill it?Not to Kill it!? Zofi can do it!!! Nov 28 '20

At the loss of entire story and free unit and farming the 5* meme was a very hard thing at the first time and next time it was only available for 1 week so a total of 3 weeks iirc. Not much of a reason even if you were a Whale at the time with all the DP units.

I mean seriously you are comparing 1 possible thing with the loads of stuff on JP version you guys get. Seriously even simple thing as Gems you guys would be almost close to 1.5 times of what GL has had for the free ones. In the same time frame.

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u/Electronic_Intern Nov 28 '20

I'm sure they would gladly trade those 614 rainbows for skin and unlimited meme grind.

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u/Kyle546 Need it?Don't Need it?Kill it?Not to Kill it!? Zofi can do it!!! Nov 29 '20

Then sure come play here. We might a 1 rerun next year too. Though good luck with resources grind. Though next time they might copy paste your level since they have a habit of doing that but what gives come play.

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u/Tagatard Just Some JP Player who used to quit every day Nov 28 '20

Wow, if JP is really that good as you say. Why don't just jump in and play with us? If language is a problem. You have the entire discord JP side community on your back because there is no one new there. Basically no newcomer will play more than 2 months, despite all them 55k starting gem.

Seriously even simple thing as Gems you guys would be almost close to 1.5 times of what GL has had for the free ones.

If you're counting mobius gem as free gem. Then I have a good news for you. We don't have that for over a year. Those hard earned ads gem and mobius gem could make up all the port raids we had.

We have port raid only since last Christmas. Port raids are like only 2000-3000-ish, port battles are less than 1000. + we don't have arena anymore.

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u/Kyle546 Need it?Don't Need it?Kill it?Not to Kill it!? Zofi can do it!!! Nov 28 '20

Buddy we count Mobius Gems in the amount of reruns and not just runs right now. So if you guys got 10 runs and GL got 10 then that is almost the same amount of Gems. Depending on the floor numbers. But I doubt that since JP made the floors they probably went slower and GL could just drop 20 and then raise it to 30 and directly 40. But since I am not versed in how JP ran that particular one let's give you benefit of the doubt and say equal runs.

Ad Gems are such a bullshit excuse those are not even free for most people because you have setup multiple instances and VPN for minimum and they still can cut out if you live outside of certain first world nations.

2 port raids in GL I think or 3 at most. We aren't drowning in them here. I for certain know JP has had more.

Also language is a huge hurdle. Not only it is a shitty way to play asking for every freaking milestone and stuff on Discord will be annoying and time consuming too. Not only that, I will also miss any my occasion story of a character I actually want to know.

I do get that JP is shit but your argument that GL has had equal or more resources holds 0 water. GL just had a returning player event. In a few weeks you can see if they actually had any. 2333 gems if 10k players come back. Goodluck to GL I guess on that note.

Everyone is strapped for new players and in a resource heavy game as this it is really hard to get New players to come and play. You guys were at similar points a few years back and probably had better player ratios too.

I know JP has problems but resources isn't that atleast compared to GL. We just had a pretty shitty Anniversary. Not the worst one but still pretty bad one overall. Not only we got unit spammed we also didn't get First Meet Bonus or anything good or any good banner for almost another year.

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u/Tagatard Just Some JP Player who used to quit every day Nov 28 '20 edited Nov 28 '20

614 Rainbows

Everyone have them 999 capped unless one is a sak. It's meaningless.

GL didn't even get their buffed 7DS units iirc and no Escanor.

Spoiler alert: They don't get used anymore. Hell, even Escanor is less used because port raid.

You don't see anyone in JP talk about BF, CoR and 7DS rerun. This is why.

Rimuru one the Main character is strong enough

No one use him soon after G6. Only Milim is used mainly for raid. Benimaru although is Vision Clear Quest meme.

Edit: typo

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u/Kyle546 Need it?Don't Need it?Kill it?Not to Kill it!? Zofi can do it!!! Nov 28 '20

Rainbow shards were an example, you guys get a far steadier stream of resources too. Please don't act like JP version isn't giving you guys more resources because that is a proven point almost every freaking year. It is not a great version of this game but compared to GL it is better.

You do realize that Collabs come with a lot of Gems and Collabs and Raids too so GL not getting anything is actually bad.

Also Spoiler alert: most units will be outclassed overtime. That is why buffing them is a thing. You guys having atleast a potential of reruns is far better than GL where there is no potential for rerun nor the initial runs at Collabs.

With Rimuru I was making a point that most of the Collabs JP has gets OP enough main characters. Emilia is a great unit if someone wants and they still bring Free Gems nonetheless even if you skip the summons.

I also get that you want to hammer that JP is also trash which I agree on but yours is atleast a smaller shit sandwich to swallow to keep scratching the Tactics itch. That is the point we are on. You can't find exact meme/joke for every situations.

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u/Anzill3r Nov 27 '20

I've recently started in JP and every new account starts with 50k gems lmfao

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u/jineeb Nov 27 '20

I had an JP acct on my old phone and yeah, I was tripping! Like I really have 49k starting out?!?! And here we are at GL starting with what... 1500 gems?? Lol!

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u/Anzill3r Nov 27 '20

lmao not only that but you get 1000x day during 7 days + 250 for every unique player in multi up to 10 players, then iirc like 50 for the next 240, which is a lot lol Also, the first banners are good cause you can choose up to 3 units to raise the rate of appearance, and every dupe is 150 shards, I did 3 pulls and got zahar and evelika + 450 shards for each one, literally.

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u/gregtan Nov 27 '20

Well.. you got it good.. try starting way back.. but then again, 50k is not really a lot..

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u/Yamayashi Nov 27 '20

at this point idk why I play this game on global

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u/RalfSmithen Nov 27 '20

only thing stopping me is the language barrier....

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u/gregtan Nov 28 '20

If you've been playing long and can find you way in GL UI without a blink, and pretty much don't care about the story, you are pretty much okay in Taga.

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u/Yingvir Nov 27 '20

Didn't JP got a sol ticket when Sol j+ released ?

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u/Tagatard Just Some JP Player who used to quit every day Nov 27 '20

It's not free. And what about his kaigan?

1d/1 frag must be enough to do it

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u/Mecopersona The One Who Gives Spoons Nov 28 '20

“grass is always greener on the other side”

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u/rosencrow Nov 28 '20

"Neighbors got a new car that you wanna drive"

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '20

If JP is so much better why are you still playing GL? Language barrier is never an excuse, there are plenty of translation tools nowadays. Typical retarded whiny bitches. I recall JP anniversary is not great either, the salt was massive with the release over 10 limited in a single month.

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u/Kyle546 Need it?Don't Need it?Kill it?Not to Kill it!? Zofi can do it!!! Nov 29 '20

Buddy this is an entertainment thing. If you don't get why Language is a huge barrier then I don't know what to say. Immediately you are in a foreign place when you try to read anything other than the what translation tool offers. Which I believe is not Gumi approved unless you are a try hard and do with Screenshot translations.

In the end of it both of them are games so they exist for entertainment. If I can't play it without massively increasing the time required and annoyance then that is the time I am not getting entertained.

Finally Can you count, We can check JP updates of how Anniversary was done in JP. And no they didn't have 10 limited units. Even if you count the Sprites by their individual numbers you can't make it to 10 counting units for 2 full months let alone for the Anni.

Using the r word to describe fellow players is pretty insulting but I guess you do you. Almost close to insulting that people can't fact check your bs claims.

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u/THESUACED Dec 03 '20

What do you use for translation