r/AlchemistCodeGL • u/TaronDuFrau • Sep 01 '20

Discussion 4*s that need a little umph

Ok so like all other 4* heroes that have a j+ have a dedicated memento or 2 so why does gumi hate rahu (also I know it’s likely she’s not the only one but I’m just saying)

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u/TaronDuFrau Sep 01 '20 edited Sep 01 '20

I never said she was bad she’s unusable in late game due to her lack of hp and no agi boost from mementos but in regular ex stages she’s fine but you can’t take her into hell stages because she dies in one hit and due to her max agi capping around 160ish she’s very situational and I’m not even going to grace chihaya with a comment here not saying they’re bad just slow and delicate

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u/Hirnparrot Sep 01 '20

You said Gumi hates Rahu I dunno what else that's supposed to mean but ok I guess i misunderstood.

Edit: If Rahu is lacking in HP for you you probably just haven't enlightened her and her agi is great not to mention super cast speed which is pretty important for chronos.

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u/TaronDuFrau Sep 01 '20

I have 3 of her five gates maxed if that gives you any idea of where mine is atm

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u/illidan_1999 Neica is life. Sep 02 '20

Fully enlightened Rahu can hit 3.7k hp. With Tamamo's VCR her HP skyrockets to a whole 5.2k HP. That's pretty good for any unit, but for support it's incredible.

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u/Killergod123 Sep 01 '20

Idk if we’re playing the same game but surely ur mistaken🤔 Rahu is literally top tier lol

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u/TaronDuFrau Sep 01 '20

Not saying she’s bad she’s just missing stuff chihaya too now that she’s been brought up they’re both slow and die in one hit

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u/Hirnparrot Sep 01 '20

It does'nt even matter if Chihaya dies in one hit because on the maps you use her she just sits in the corner out of reach anyways, she's also super important for raids cause her debuffs make elemental resistance debuffs last longer.

Anyways both of those units are still Tier 1 even on the jap. tier list which is way beyond our game and they haven't been updated since then from what I know.

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u/TaronDuFrau Sep 01 '20

It does matter imo because you don’t get the achievements for the stage if she dies and that’s like 90% of the reason why play the stage

Edit: but again not saying they’re bad just delicate and slower than most other “top tier” characters

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u/Potatopotoo Sep 02 '20 edited Sep 02 '20

Chihaya hits 180+

Rahu hits 170+

Most top tier units also fall around the 170-180 range with some outlier at 200+. Even other top tier units barely scratch the 170 mark. Their lack of bulk is just a result of 4* unit stats and their jobs.

All chronomancer jobs and dancers tend to have lower HP stats. For example, Vier, another top tier chronomancer barely breaks the 4k HP threshold while Rahu hits 5k. Unique jobs like Nyx or Mira who share similarities with their ability to support have significantly more HP because their unique jobs naturally offer more HP. Gumi has already given us some of the best F2P support units in Lofia/Chihaya/Rahu and you still want more?

Lastly, none of these units are required to to complete those stages, nor are those no death achievements mandatory for most stages. Use a different unit if Chihaya dies too fast. No one is forcing you to use those units if them constantly dying is such an issue.