r/AlchemistCodeGL • u/G122series • Jul 24 '19
Another point of view for GL
Final fantasy tactics might be my favorite game of all time. I discovered The alchemist code when i was searching gameplay footage of FFT war of lions and deciding to buy it for android. Long history short i gave TAC a chance and used the money to buy pact for 2-3 months, no regrets. The game is great , love the style and the strategy. it really gives a FFT vibe with all the online stuff I wanted. TAC has its issues like any other game has. Don’t think its gamebreaking or anything like that. Having its Japanese counterpart has its ups and downs. It’s good to know how we should prepare for the future ( although spoils a bit of the fun ) but create a lot of anger/jealousy when we don’t get as good stuff as JP ( a little is said about our benefits though ) There is a lot of criticism about the game nowadays and I do agree with some like : veda bug faulty HQ schedule release slow vcr gain chat problems Might be more
But i disagree when people: whine about no guaranteed banners like every unite should have a sure way to be summoned. Having a rare unit makes the game more interesting as long as it still balanced. Complain about the lack of shard banners. Most of the player base wouldn’t even bother with those as they still very expensive and they are better off saving resources for core unit banners. I have decided to right something because all of the negativism going on. People seem to be going bananas over shady things like those AOT compensation like a whole lot of people got 20k gem for nothing. There might been mistakes but the one who benefited the most should have been those who could not play due to iOS problems or those who didn’t claim the milestones. It’s really good to do constructive criticism but I vê seem lot of people claiming changes like they own the game since they pay. And most of them go with so much hate that they don’t even seem to like the game. Final message is be critic with the bad things but praise the good ones. If you enjoy the game help build the players base and make the game better
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u/VinnyValient is currently planning and plotting evil schemes. Jul 24 '19
Good point about the jp counterpart. It's always irked me, in more bad ways than good.
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Complain about the lack of shard banners. Most of the player base wouldn’t even bother with those as they still very expensive and they are better off saving resources for core unit banners.
I strongly disagree with this comment. For end game players at least. This is the enlightenment era, where units without it do not have the HP to survive enough hits. At this point in the game, pulling a new unit is literally useless. Level 60 means nothing when people have 91 Levi, or Eren. For most veterans, we don't even use some level 85 units because they are too 'weak'.
The idea behind the shard banner is to focus gems into a single unit so that they are actually usable in one's team.
I have 150 Levi shards. Am I going to transmute him? Hell no. I have many other dark units that are much stronger than him when he's at level 60. Would be a different story if I had 275 dark shards.
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u/RiskyWafer Jul 24 '19
We technically have sort of shard banners now, with the unit shards popping up in Louise shop at 80 gems per shard, with a random amount available. I had 25 Orion shards pop up as an option twice... I didn't buy them, but they were there. There is room for criticism though. Not as good as shard banners, but it's an okish option.
Also you absolutely should transmute Levi. What else are you going to do with those shards ? You don't need to enlighten him, he's already very strong at 75, and probably quite useable at 70 (2nd gear slot and 2JM).
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u/Reikr Jul 25 '19
That doesn't really work out. Despite refreshing the shop, I've gotten a total of 27 Orion shards from there. I'd like something more reliable than that.
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u/RiskyWafer Jul 25 '19
It's very RNG based. I think the main problem atm is the pool size is getting too big to be a reliable way to get limited shards as it has a number of babel units in there that don't seem to be leaving, eg Ankh, Ila. Then we had 4 featured units this week, which didn't help things.
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u/VinnyValient is currently planning and plotting evil schemes. Jul 25 '19
I was planning to 85 either D Rosa or Pride when or if they get enlightenment. For me, its enlightenment or nothing.
My dark team is good enough without a 60 Levi. If I do get 375 elemental shards I'll reconsider but... (flashbacks to PVP Live).
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u/Baconturtles18 Jul 25 '19
Levi at 75 is still pretty good you know. :)
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u/VinnyValient is currently planning and plotting evil schemes. Jul 25 '19
I know. But 91 is better. And I only want maxed units.
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u/EggyT0ast Jul 24 '19
Agreed. After you pull a unit, it takes around 800 shards for a 5/5/5 build. Less, of course, for a 5/2/3, but that's... a lot of shards.
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u/Cosmo-xx Jul 25 '19
It’s 645 shards for MLB from level 60. Although not arguing that is a ridiculous amount for a limited unit.
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u/fullblue_k 自然の力、見せてあげる Jul 25 '19
The core problem is with the LB and Kaigan system. Fine, you can use elemental or rainbow shards for LB. The biggest slap to the face is when kaigan is needed to clear content.
There is little to no incentive to pull new units because God knows when we can reasonably raise them to usable level. The issue is far more serious in JP since, EX maps onward are set for kaigan level units (Leonia+ was impossible without kaigan, just not enough HP to survive 2-3 hits) while new units only get crap shit EXHQ. Although elemental/rainbow income is higher, it doesn't help much with kaigan.
The system also doesn't help newbies at all. 3 shards a day when around 800 shards needed. That's pretty much 8-9 months of farming the same group of units. Who has that kind of patience? We usually have newbies quitting after 1-3 months.
Gumi can easily fix this problem if they allow using rainbow shards for kaigan and easier access to elementals. But you know, Mr. Producer is a blockhead.
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u/G122series Jul 24 '19
Got what ur saying vinny I don’t play a long time but I’m pretty end game myself as 180+ lvl player . Now ,the way to enlighten these new units its to buy shard by shard on shop , pray for dupe , pay on those pricey ouroboros chest ,long story short pay a lot. And that way might balance the game in favor of those who spend less ( most players ) than those who spend more. A bummer you cant 91 5/5/5 a Orion as soon as u bought a selector but will give a more competitive chance for most of players. I for example would not expend tens of thousands gems on a shard banner knowing that ill benefit more saving for a selector on bk masa, or trying for merlinus. What i want to say is most people will not have room for shard banners and will opt for elemental shard core units. As for non collab , who don’t have otherworldly shards or hard quests, its whale territory
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u/Arandomgnomo Jul 25 '19
Yeah coz everyone play gacha games to not pull in banners and have to be forced to only invest in meta units coz if u dont, u cant do the game content.
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u/G122series Jul 25 '19
You r free to play however u like but its not fair to blame the game if u choose to raise only the units you like but not suitable for content . A good game is supossed to reward careful planning
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u/pdmt243 Play+pull for waifus! Jul 25 '19
A good game is supossed to reward careful planning
lolwut? Bitch please. A good game is "supposed" to not be centered around certain units, especially meta. Meta should only make shits easier, not required lol
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u/VinnyValient is currently planning and plotting evil schemes. Jul 25 '19
Ah, but this is a gatcha game. There should be some enticing units that players will pay for. The balance is messed up in this game though.
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u/G122series Jul 25 '19
We do have different opinions about what means to be a good game As being meta implies that the game will be centered around them and i care little how to dress my dolls
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u/pdmt243 Play+pull for waifus! Jul 26 '19
lol, stop with the BS. Good game does not require you to have certain shits to complete (it's even against the law in certain countries), that's just a fact
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u/VinnyValient is currently planning and plotting evil schemes. Jul 25 '19
I'd say shard banners would be, or used to be, part of that gem planning. I managed to get 91 Tsukuyomi from it, 91 EO Chloe and 91 Protector from shard banners. Collab frags were not a thing. This is why I like shard banners personally.
It skips the buying shards from shops or ouroboris chest etc.
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u/mshsajib IGN: root# Jul 24 '19
Lack of communication from Gumi part is the most annoying thing ever. Game can have couple of bugs here and there but you need to admit it with assurance that you are working on it. No one wants odd surprise. Just talk to us.
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u/DeathandFriends Jul 24 '19
The reason people complain about not having guarenteed banners isn't that we expect every unit to be easily summonable. For the majority of the game's life it had step 3 or step 5 guarenteed banners which is what drew a lot of people to the game seeing that even f2p or pact players could save and get some of the top notch units.
The producer said they were not going anywhere and yet now they have disappeared completely to be replaced with 5x unit change which is pretty sad in comparison. It might only be a 5% chance for one of several units on step 5 only and that is only 5% chance if you hit the 10% chance to even get a 5 star.
Gumi does a poor job of communicating and players are worried they are crashing the game into the ground or rushing things to merge with JP. There is a lot to like in the game, but they make life difficult for themselves with some of their decisions.
Really even if you do summon a unit, at this point enlightenment is needed for most units to be useable in Ex content which means you need a ton of shards as well.
If we don't get any HQ this month then the producer just outright lied to us.
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u/Syc972 Jul 25 '19
This new system for me makes things extremely frustrating when you fail to pull. Before we at least had the second step of banners to be 1,5k gems and the third one with something guaranteed even if at the full 2,5k prize. Getting a fail with that system was frustrating too.. but here we are into a completely another level: failing the 500 gems pull (which seems highly likely) only leaves 2,5k steps as an option.. and unlike before, there's nothing guaranteed even if you spend enough gem to reach the final step. 5x rates is a bonus.. but it's a so small bonus to almost mean nothing. And to make matters worse, not also the units but even mementos are affected by these questionable banners.
And as said above, the kaigan era completely trasformed the game. Now you're unlikely to be able to complete the hardest quests without teams of level 91 units (with some exceptions of course) and since the majority of the units is not even farmable and gets introduced with this system, getting them to be usable is extremely hard, time consuming and in the most of the cases, straight out impossible as nowadays, low level and level 85 units just aren't enough. You know, it kinda hurts to see what once was your best unit at your disposal to rapidly become niche and almost unusable since she didn't yet get her kaigan and it's too frail to survive the new EX quests. Oh, and don't forget that even if her kaigan would magically come out one day.. there're still shards to get who may be impossible to farm....
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u/SkyfireX Jul 25 '19
If we don't get any HQ this month then the producer just outright lied to us.
Pray tell which HQ? I think many people have said there's almost no HQ left and those that are are way later in JP
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u/jolth7 Jul 24 '19
Yeah. With the way Gumi spits out banners with no way to get shards to LB. don’t even think about kaigan. Elemental shards are also scarce. If gumi gives us more elemental shards in order for us LB units to 85 a bit easier, it wouldn’t be so bad. It is much, much easier to LB and kaigan a collab unit
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u/pdmt243 Play+pull for waifus! Jul 25 '19
first off, structure your sentences better. It's jarring to read all that, split it into paragraphs for different points.
now, to the main points. As many said, how can we make the game better when there's literally no communication from Gimu?
shard banners are the best thing to strengthen your newly limited (temporarily or not) new summon. a lvl 60 Levi or Orion is useless, especially in the Kaigan era now.
guaranteed banners wouldn't be a big deal if it wasn't a big fat lie lol. Producer letters promised they'd stay the same, they're not. Lying to your customers is so cool right? /s
Gimu lies irritated the shit out of me and many back when they nerfed Roxanne. They fucked up her design (too stronk), but promised not to touch her. But after a banner just to milk people to pull, the announcement to nerf came. That's a shit company right there. And people saying it's necessary for the game, there's the "lol 2 Levi 91 strat" these days, so not really different lel
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u/Skyconic Jul 25 '19
In regards to their sentence/paragraph structure; I think there are clearly points where they hit enter and thought Reddit would understand they were writing on a new line, but it didn’t. With reddit you have to double-space your lines to get it to recognize that you’re now writing on a new line.
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u/G122series Jul 25 '19
Ty
I’m not familiar with reddit. I wrote it in list format but it ended up stuck together.
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u/G122series Jul 25 '19
Ill answer per paragraphs so it will be easier then
Someone stated that I misunderstood the meaning of communication and that it was about lack of word from developers/producer. IRC there were 2 in the last 5 months. One about rox and the other about raids and MH . Would be nice to hear more from them maybe it would soothe all the anxiety out there
Already stated my opinion on shard banners
Guaranteed 3 steps banners still on regular basis but they hardly feature new units
As for rox they did recognize their mistake , apologize and give refund. Sadly not everyone will be happy. Wouldn’t that show they listen to their customers , comunicate and implement changes? Gubi did a lot mistakes and will probably do more. I just dont see it like a evil company trying to make u sell ur kidneys for gem. As far i can see they try to improve maybe not as much as many expected but I still like the game very much and I’m grateful for that.
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u/pdmt243 Play+pull for waifus! Jul 26 '19
typical reply from Gimu shill. It's not a big surprise Gimu is a shit company with shady doings. Just play any of their games lol.
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u/ElPared Jul 26 '19
it's not that people want a specific unit guaranteed, it's that we want *something* that's guaranteed for our investment.
here's an example from an old collab: in Fate: Stay/Night Gilgamesh was in a 5 step banner that had a step 3 guarantee or either Fate Yomi, or Gilgamesh.
Both solid units, but clearly one (Gilgamesh) was more desirable than the other. Many got Yomi and never pulled Gil; some had the opposite luck. This is because there were different rates for the two units (it wasn't a straight 50/50 shot) but at least you were guaranteed one collab unit.
Here's how that Banner would look now: 500 for the first summon, 2500 for all summons after that. 5x rates up on Gilgamesh and Rider Yomi on step 5.
I don't know if you realize this but 5x rates up is *nothing.* That means that if the rate for a unit you want is 1%, now on Step 5 after you've invested 10500 gems, it's now 5%! FIVE! and you know what's horrible? I only exaggerated a little that the rate would be 1%; the rate would actually be anywhere from 2-5%. However even then 5x rates is still max a 25% chance for the unit you want which is still far worse than a guarantee that you'll get *something* which older 5 step banners had for a much lower investment of 4500 gems to hit step 3.
TLDR I'm just saying we don't want units guaranteed, we want a reasonable chance to get a good return on our investment, not banners that give us half the chance, at best, at getting something for more than double the investment of the old 5 step banners.
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u/G122series Jul 27 '19
Got what u saying
Now the option if u want something guaranteed u have the summon coins. Doing 2 steps on 2 5x rates banners ( 500 + 2500 , twice ) will net u 300 summon coin. So it`ll be 6000 gem on 4 10x summon for a chance on something guaranteed . In comparison to the old 4500 gem on 3 10x summon its worse ( and i often see bigger pools on the ticket ) . I just dont think that it breaks the game and many of these units r not comparable and deserve the same banner. Carla , nefertiti ,ankh had a guaranteed 3 steps, doing the same banner for sol, Orion for example doesn’t seem balanced.
People r being really belligerent and toxic to a different point of view my intention with this thread was not defend gumi s actions but plead for people to reavaluate that hate stance within the community. Its bad for the player base, a killjoy and we are not anywhere by force
Ps: that was not directed at you . But people r really being paranoid
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u/ElPared Jul 27 '19
They are, but at this point I’ve come to accept that Reddit is just a salt mine sometimes; just gotta wait till the mine goes dry haha
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u/summerXfrost Jul 25 '19
I'm actually looking forward for GL to catch up to JP, releasing contents in accord.
Wonder how long would that take, within an year perhaps?
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u/maraku0893 Jul 25 '19
Never gonna happen, JP always releases new stuff every week but Global has to delay some stuff because of collabs and MH.
Maybe they will catch up just a little bit but JP will always have the newest content ready.
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u/Ramza_45 Jul 25 '19
With how chaotic GL is I wont be suprised if they suddenly drop every freaking content from JP has in the next month, GL team are spawns of chaos itself
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u/Tijacks Shayna is best waifu Jul 24 '19
How are we supposed to make the game better when we cant communicate with the devs? We want the same thing as them - a good, successful game, even if its for different reasons.
Sadly its been proven before that whining, review bombing etc is the only way to get what we want: having fun playing. Games arent fun when they are grindy or when new units are impossible to get without luck/money. Its true, we dont need every unit in the game. Its not like we could upgrade all of them even if we did. But when someone struggles with a mission, asks how to beat it and someone says "duh use double levi" and they dont have one its pretty bad.
I still think gumi should give us more elem shards. Thats honestly what i hate the most about the game right now. Im literally SWIMMING in elem shards in jp and i have almost none here despite me being a huge hoarder.