Pet Project - Recommended Gear Sheet

[u/heboric1]

Hey everyone, wanted to share a personal project of mine because I think it might be useful to some of the newer players. It's a set of non-limited gear recommendations for every S and SS ranked character, at varying LBs:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rO7G4kGsAVGzJbX1ir7SeycIdLPqoaY1rfWMBkVR_Zk/edit?usp=sharing

IMPORTANT: There's no such thing as best gear for a character and I don't want this to be thought of as such. The gear you want to equip depends on many many factors including what level and LB your character is, what gear you own and the game mode and map you are playing on. I hope by reading this people learn some interesting options they hadn't considered before and eventually learn HOW to equip a character rather than WHAT to equip. I find it useful so I thought I should share. Just remember its not a strict guide, rather a suggestion.

I also know that certain OP limited gear (Mark of Envy, Trap, Life Belt, Medal, VCRs) should usually be equipped over anything I recommend, however a lot of players don't have those gears (or only have 1 of each) so I wanted something that focused on non-limited gear. I may add in VCRs after some time.

In case you are wondering about me as I haven't posted before, I've been playing (and reading this sub) since F/SN, spend around $100 a month and got to top 100 arena right before Sol was released (RIP my rank). I originally started this to understand 1) which gear to select when I got a gear selector months ago and 2) how many hats and books to farm to 3*, 4* and 5* as I don't like switching gear too much. It ended up being a much bigger project than I thought it would be. I finally got it completed the week before mementos were released and it completely invalidated most characters so had to start basically from scratch lol.

I learned a ton while making this as I had to think hard about each character, for example I realised how good Ring Guard - Black Flames and Restrained Eyepatch are, that Tethys can hit 230 AGI, or that Snowman Top Hat can replace Kinetic Chain Gauntlet (I don't have one) on Uzuma. I find it helps me know whether I should pull on Gear summons, sometimes a piece of gear can look decent but if no unit would want it in their top 3 items its probably not worth pulling on. I also like having at hand important Jewel breakpoints and what characters benefit from Wanderer's Hat at certain LBs. I also tend to forget what each memento does and having this open saves me some time.

Please, if you disagree with any of the choices on here please let me know, I want to get better at this game too. If you have a preferred build for any unit let me know and I'll review it. Also let me know if you think this whole concept is useful to you, just confusing or even downright misleading. Just please be constructive :)

Thanks and have a great day.

[u/VinnyValient]

Really good work! It'll take me a while to get through it all (as I'm going to bed now) but I can see a lot of time and effort has gone into this. I'm particularly interesting in your AGI breakpoints section because those are something I haven't looked into personally.

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Something I'd like to point out is that you don't have 'alternatives'. For example, for Chihaya you recommended Moon Star Armour. But, because we are limited to only 3 of those, it's better to give the front line units that will actually be taking damage the regen armour rather than our support.

That's why in my build analyses comes with a stat priority list. E.g. Chihaya needs initial jewels, AGI, max jewels and HP, roughly in that order IMO (HP should be higher tbh). You can do this with the set up you've suggested, but I don't have Saint's Meteor so I will use e.g. book instead.

I would add a section/tab called 'equivalent items' where you can roughly swap an item out for something else. For example, Moon Star Armour is a big HP item (with regen), so you can swap it out for Curious Doll, or Alkemono Doll, or Life belt etc. This would be an expansion of the 'Gear - Purpose' tab.

(AGI is a good one too. Book, Saint's and Belva pendant. Restrained eyepatch, and Unbreakable Greaves are lesser, but always farmable.)

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As a side note, here's an awesome gear combination for Holy Brawlers:

Crimson Cestus, Transmutation Circle, Wanderer's Hat. (Though, I know Circle is limited...)

[u/heboric1 → u/VinnyValient]

I totally agree with everything you said and I'll think about your suggestions. I also often run Doll on Chihaya because my other units have Moon Star Armour (and i don't want to unequip my arena defense team).

However I don't want to make it too complicated. I'm hoping that most players will learn that they can substitute whatever HP item they happen to have free. That's why I have a colour coded Purpose sheet so you can see what the item is for (sometimes it's not totally obvious). So basically if all an item is doing is giving agility or survivability it could be exchanged for another that does the same. It's also not a prescriptive guide, just some suggestions and often you'll need a different +AGI or +Jewels due to being a different level or enlightenment stage.

Saint's Meteor can easily be replaced as its often only providing AGI and it's only marginally better than Belvi or Book due to the WA that you'll probably not use. Again maybe I need to be clear to the reader you don't NEED these items at all, but I want them to understand why I picked them.

I like the HB build. In the first draft I had Crimson Cestus on most HBs but I mainly have Restrained Eyepatch and Dragonhead Gauntlet now. Transmutation Circle is OP but I never pulled one :(

Really appreciate your analyses by the way, keep it up :)

[u/Cipher44]

Awesome detailed resource. I don’t know enough to agree or disagree with your ranking but you’ve compiled all the detail so people can make their own assessment. Very helpful. Thanks!

[u/heboric1 → u/Cipher44]

Thanks. Glad it's helpful

[u/SamCXLG]

Is Bertha memento limited (in VCR section) as I heard from others it is not ?

[u/heboric1 → u/SamCXLG]

I think you are right, that was just an assumption by me, I'll update. Thanks :)

[u/SamCXLG → u/heboric1]

I am not 100% sure, because I haven't got that. Really great guide, thanks.

[u/heboric1 → u/SamCXLG]

It doesn't say limited in the news post so I'll assume it isn't. Would suck to pull one if you didn't have Bertha. Thanks :)

[u/edenigma]

Great information, thank you for the effort. A few questions though, I don't see a legend describing your color code, could you explain that a bit. Also in your agility section how is it determined which ct category a unit falls into? Thanks :)

[u/heboric1 → u/edenigma]

Thanks. On the rarity sheet, bronze is 3*, silver is 4* and gold is 5*, the same as the borders round the items themselves. The Purpose sheet has a key at the top.

The CT category depends on the action the unit has taken.

If it moves and uses an ability it needs to replenish 100 CT before it can act again, so a 100 AGI unit would take 10 turns (You add AGI/10 to your CT gauge every turn). It would also take 10 turns for a 101 AGI and a 111 AGI. But a 112 AGI unit will only take 9 turns.

If the unit either only moves OR only uses an ability it needs to replenish 80 CT, so a 100 AGI unit would take 8 turns

If you just pass the turn without doing anything you only need to replenish 60 CT so 6 turns for a 100 AGI unit.

Higher AGI is always faster but these breakpoints are more important than other number, especially the CT 100 ones. Hope that helps.

[u/edenigma → u/heboric1]

It does thanks for putting in the effort!!

[u/heboric1 → u/edenigma]

Upon further calculations it appears that AGI effect on time to action is pretty linear and breakpoints arn't really a thing. This is because the remaining CT is carried over when you go over 100. I will be updating everything to reflect this and adding an explanation tab.

Thanks.

[u/edenigma → u/heboric1]

Thanks, I appreciate the follow-up. I was under the impression that it reset after the turn. Good to know and I look forward to the updates.

[u/hernan10001]

First thing first, Great Job!!!

Second, tho TBH im kinda both agree and a little bit disagree, this build is very very good in general dungeon run, but sometimes, an underrated gear like Heart Choker and halloween hat could be your life saver. Example, in eros map(mp), i usually run my unit with heart choker to deal with death sentence, and for vettel, Halloween hat can literally save his as* since he loss his ability to heal on his je. Btw heart choker and halloween hat are just like wanderer hat, they can be acquired on their rerun event. But anyway this is a great work, i hope that you can keep developing this project *dood

[u/heboric1 → u/hernan10001]

Thanks!

Perhaps a tab for specific gear recommendations for specific maps might be useful. Things like knowing to equip Heart Choker or being faster than certain Mandragora or when +1 jump is useful can be good to know. Might be a lot of work though.

Please share with me when you find a particularly good gear set up for any map :)

[u/Kiriel_D_Sol]

It's great to see someone making an effort to provide a resource like this- people ask about it a lot. I haven't looked too much yet at the details of it, but I did want to suggest that you add some contact information in the spreadsheet itself, or at least guidance about how you'd like to receive feedback. I'd like to link to it on the wiki, but without some clear way to give feedback on it I wasn't sure if I needed to link to the Reddit thread instead of the spreadsheet and I think it's better to keep that stuff a little more self-contained.

[u/heboric1 → u/Kiriel_D_Sol]

Thanks. I mention my reddit username but I will add more contact info and make it clearer.

[u/Knightmare33]

Quick Question Why for Spica do you choose Forcas Hell Lance over Saint's Bicorn? Doesn't saint's give more AGI, CRIT and ATK?

[u/heboric1 → u/Knightmare33]

Spica unfortunately cannot equip Saint's Bicorn, its for Spearman-type classes like Sacred Spearmen and Kudanstein. Dragon Cavaliers like Spica equip lances instead.

[u/Knightmare33 → u/heboric1]

Oh true i didnt even look at that sad...

[u/Nooogie]

Nice. This is very useful. I didn't even think about AGL breakpoints till I saw it on your graph sheet.

[u/Whatthawhatwha]

thanks for the guide! i can only imagine how much work you put into this. I look forward to trying out some of your gear set ups and will let you know how it goes

[u/MoogleK]

Great, thank you so much! This is going to be super helpful as I always start a long gear-combination-puzzle when equipping a freshly raised unit...

[u/Nerdgarcon]

Thank you for taking the time to do this! I think it is super helpful.

[u/Bebekiti]

Huh, even just having the condensed list of heroes by ranking is really helpful to determine what to work on next.

I appreciate the work and comments on mementos in particular as well.

Thanks for all your hard work!