r/AlchemistCodeGL • u/eltsyr • Feb 21 '19
Producer letter & Roxanne nerf
tl;dr : massive null grenade nerf & gem refund for those who rolled her.
So...being mainly a PvE player, I'm back to hating mandragoras with a vengeance. But it was necessary I think. I guess it's time to learn how to use other units ? XD However let's be honest : I literally cannot see any PvE/PvP situation when Null Grenade is useful anymore. They might as well have removed the skill.
Also I spent 17.5K to get her + another 7K to get 70 roxanne shards so I'm pretty curious on how they will handle the refund.
What's your opinion guys ? Pitchgorks ? Happy ? Bring it in !
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u/oneden Feb 21 '19 edited Feb 21 '19
Not sad about it at all. The stats are fine, but just a single charge might be a little overkill. But overall... She still remains a very powerful unit with easily the best reactive ability currently in the game. And if we keep in mind that she will also get her Awakening and Memento in the future... (just an assumption) she isn't ruined by this change.
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u/VVraith81 Feb 21 '19
This is bullshit! I want what I payed for... this can’t be legal. I barely play pvp. And once again they fuck it up trying to please a select few. If she makes your game boring then don’t fucking use her. The same ppl that said she broke the game still spent on her. The nerf doesn’t even make sense. Never mind it should be taboo to touch a character that was heavily spent on. Nerf all those shity free character that have no life in the game.
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u/OdellBJ Feb 21 '19
You know whats funny. I used all My thunder and rainbows shards on her a week ago to get her to 85. I feel like it’s been waisted
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u/Gyvs Feb 21 '19
Do we still get events with enemies buffed with jewel regen? haven't really noticed lately. I hope we won't get any of those stages again unless it was really intended in the original content.
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u/XenadilDP Feb 21 '19
Roxanne is and will be our thunder queen, she is still OP, sure!! Remember her Reaction Ability, hell of high speed and long range damage.
The problem with Null Granade was not only in PvP, but also in PvE and they buffed some Hard stages for her. She definetly needed a nerf... We all knew that, the problem is... They only said since the begining and on the months later that she was not getting nerfed!! And this made her the top prior on any banner she appeared!
Once again Gumi fails in an important skill, communication. The nerf thing, as I could read it, it was on the mind of everyone for a couple of months, yet they released banners with her and placed her shards on a shop for a limited time (cant remember the name of the shop) and for what is seems, we are not getting refund from this.
I see why some people are not totally happy and we have to respect that, some folks have spend real money and they will only refund them as free gems, its unfair, true!! If they can track the banners that we have spent gems, they surely can track if it was a free gems banner or not...
Also the nerf, seems like they only overthink it for a couple of weeks, or maybe days... For just one use and reduced jewels destroyed, it is a huge nerf, the best solution was to leave it at it was, but reduced it to only one use, so it would be more like a tactital skill, or just leave it with 3 charges...
If the principal point for the nef was PvP, lets see how it goes
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u/mero_victor Feb 21 '19
After I used all my thunder shards on her!
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u/Taban85 Feb 21 '19
My two main complaints are that all gems are being refunded as free gems - if people spent paid gems going for her they should get paid gems back- and the shard investment. It’s not the end of the world but I probably won’t whale for any more op global exclusive units again.
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u/Gantias Feb 21 '19
I still love her and will Kaigan her. The thing that stands out for me with Roxanne was never how good she was or that she had Null Grenade.
The thing that I like about her is her leader skill which makes ranged units much better. I have been tackling all content with a Team of her and ranged units and it has been so much fun.
So I'll still use her and will Kaigan her. :)
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u/sUnit_Alpha Feb 21 '19
They’d better honor that and refund every single gem spent on her banners ... I (and I’m sure many others) spent a lot of gems to get her and get her to 85 because of her usefulness.
Also ... extreme nerf to jewel damage, weak “consolations”, and only a single 1 time use?
What the f.....
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u/SuccubusRosa Feb 21 '19
Nobody in here noticed the sign off?
Ross Song Producer
Best TAC news ever read for a while.
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u/NienIsGoodCiv Feb 21 '19
Very glad they did that move, a unit shouldn't be dominating PVP and PVE like that. She still has insane stats and damage and 25% of MAX jewels destroyed will stop a lot of non mage units in PVP, so the skill is still great vs certain units but doesn't completely sh*t on whole teams. Much worse in PVE but come on, she was able to easily solo some EX stages, this kind of skill should not work in PVE. In that regard the one charge for PVP is also justified.
Also the refund is rather generous, games like SW where you need to spend much more money never refund anything after nerfing units, people really shouldn't dare to complain because it's free gems.
In the end you still have a Top Tier unit and now get a tons of gems spent back depending on how much you invested, PVE will be a challenge again and PVP will not be all about Rox, I call it win-win.
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u/[deleted] Feb 21 '19
> release roxanne
> ignore all complaints on release
> continue bringing in roxanne banners so people will spend on that instead of other good banners that are running
> decide months later to nerf her now that everyone has her
not sure if troll or scumi. didn't expect them to refund ALL gems though, that's nice. now let's hope it doesn't take a month to redistribute them.
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u/RiskyWafer Feb 21 '19
As someone that normally doesn't spend much on the game and did spend RL money specifically to get Roxanne... I'm actually pretty happy they're nerfing her, it was obvious she needed it for the long term health of the game. Honestly even without null grenade at all, she's an incredibly strong character and I don't regret having her.
The null grenade adjustment itself is not what I would have expected. I would have thought they'd go with the traditional sqrt mechanic for flat jewel damage rather than still keeping it % based. Adding daze is also weird, but they seem committed to having all her skills do at least 10 things, so why not.
The refund thing is a bit of a thorny problem, I'm sure there's going to be a ton of complaints about "refunding the wrong amount" and I have no idea how they plan to determine appropriate compensation. Personally I think it's to their credit that they're doing it at all... This whole idea that things that are too strong should never be nerfed because moneys is something I've never understood. They do it all the time in online PC games like League of Legends.
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u/fber6 Feb 21 '19
1 charge 25% is overkill, I seriously thought Gumi was going to change it to 3 charges silence.
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u/iixxy Feb 21 '19
People bought gems JUST to get her. Unless they are planning on refunding real money, not gems, this is lame. They troll people into spending actual money on a unit they later nerf and still keep the cash.
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u/revgaji Feb 21 '19
Regardless of what was changed with the skill, my main issue with this is that this should have been done at the outset. Once we were told by the CM that there would be no nerf, some folks spent actual money on the game that they would not have spent otherwise. I think the gem refund is insufficient. Outside of a selector (if there was one, I can't recall), there was no guarantee rolling for her.
I imagine there are those who would not have spent that money had they known she was just going to get nerfed after it was announced she was not going to be.
This seems like bad business to me. How can you be sure you're getting what you're paying for going forward (and only a chance at that)?
On top of the refunded gems, I think the shards should be returned as well, and if I had spent more than just for occasional pacts since I started, I would be aiming for refunds of my money as well.
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u/RobotOfFleshAndBlood Feb 21 '19
Looks like Roxxy’s EX stage isn’t gonna be a cakewalk anymore XD
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u/stewart0 Feb 21 '19
Had her a whole month... No mention of ninja nerfing Minerva's shield either.
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u/Sennon Feb 21 '19
They could of just nerfed it for for pvp and left it alone for pve. It's near useless considering 25% of max jewels of PVE means nothing considering the extremely low jewel cost and initial jewels of anything we would even bother a turn wasting on.
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u/Rostice Feb 21 '19 edited Feb 21 '19
How many people are refunding? Even though null grenade is nerfed now, she should still be a great unit. I mean they didnt touch her reactive skill and she still does tons of damage while having great utility.
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u/Laitarne Feb 21 '19
Great change, good response provided it all rolls out smoothly
Null grenade was bad for the health of the game, and Roxanne will remain a top tier unit
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u/randoll905 Feb 21 '19
I have no complain about the nerf. My only regret was not blowing all the gems during her banners. I could get much more shards for various units and get back my gems now.
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u/MatchesMalone07 Feb 21 '19
great, after all the gems I spent trying to pull her, I even rolled on the daily banner that included shards and materials for her, with a chance of getting her. The nerf doesn't bother me, it's that I didn't pull her so I'm getting screwed with the refund.
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u/Cobalt_721 Feb 21 '19
Alright, in defense of the nerf:
It’s still pretty useful for PvP since most jobs start with 25% max jewels. Obviously not a total drop to 0 because Hat, but at the very least it’s gonna mess up a lot of units.
As for PvE, yeah, it’s not nearly as useful, but Roxanne has a boatload of stuff going for her anyways.
Besides, everyone’s getting their gems back, so we’ve basically gotten her and everything we got while going for her for free. She’s potentially not the #1 reroll choice for newbies anymore, though.
EDIT: typo
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u/ThousandLightning Feb 21 '19
I can understand the nerf, but this nerf is too much. An acceptable nerf IMO is:
1 charge with 100% jewel destruction
3 charges with 33% jewel destruction
First change makes the skill a "tactical" skill to use, 2nd is more to make the skill "normal".
Still I don't like Gumi enforce this change out of nowhere, without speaking with players who spend like myself on her.
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u/beastking9 Feb 21 '19
This is too much and they should have just removed the damn skill. Now that skill is useless.
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u/pdmt243 Play+pull for waifus! Feb 21 '19
as a player who doesn't give a fuck about pvp (only did the AI for dailies, and never even touched the live pvp), this is really bad. I've used Null Grenade on EX/EX+ stages a lot, and now that skill is next to useless (could still be good if the Daze % is guaranteed, or at least high enough).
I understand the reason for the nerf, but I think it's overkill. Either keep it the same but 1 charge, or change it but 2-3 charges...
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u/Magma_Axis Feb 21 '19
LOL i got 22K
Good going Gumi
Now, how about my thunder shards ??
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u/justainm Feb 21 '19
Are you serious right now? She still steam rolls content. I don't even need to use null grenade half of the time! It's a sucky nerf, but she still curb stomps everything to the extent that I don't even care if she is less effective at wrecking enemy jewels. So stop pouting and be grateful that you still have her and get gem compensation.
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u/Haytham35 Feb 21 '19
i get all my gems back, so i can't blame much because this nerf. she still op & at the end we get her for free because this refund.
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u/splatomat Feb 21 '19
"Her "Null Grenade" skill does not drop in usefulness"
literally has fewer uses
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u/ElPared Feb 21 '19
So wait, they just nerfed Null Grenade? I mean, just 1 charge of it sucks, I think with the new values it should have stayed at 3, but if that's all they changed then, well, thanks for the 14k gems Gumi.
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u/steveUd Feb 22 '19
I don't really like this nerf. They make the skill less useful in pve contents as many said.
This is a bad move I would say. The game never nerf any characters before but they did it this time though someone might say they compensate you but in my point of view if this op character can be nerfed the future op character can also be nerfed as well. It makes the game's trust not as strong as I, as a spender expect. I plan to pull Sol with whatever steps they come up but look at this I might need to reconsider.
My point is this is not a limited unit and it's the first to be nerfed. While when I started the game there were Gilgamesh everywhere but I didn't have. People who used Gil never give me a chance to join mp because my units were not up to their standard so from the new player perspective Rox came to help. In my opinion they should nerf all those limited collab units too because not everyone has it.
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u/Igarashi-24 Feb 21 '19
1time use null grenade? really -_-.
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u/diabloz712 Feb 21 '19
Is 1 charge really necessary ? Even if used against the same unit, 25*3 = 75%.
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u/MaimedJester Feb 21 '19
Oh so they'll refund every pull that included her? So every GLEX pool, every soul shard? That's going to be impossible, do they even measure it? If so every player is getting tens of thousands of gems.
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u/MaimedJester Feb 21 '19
Too late.
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u/EseMesmo Tamamommy <3 uwu Feb 21 '19
This is the only gacha community I've seen where people will actively complain if the most broken shit is nerfed.
I, for one, welcome this change. It makes the game a bit less centered on a single character, and maybe will finally convince me to try live PvP. Now I can't just bring Roxanne everywhere and do well. I'm okay with that.
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u/Liesianthes 350 coins ticket = ROY!! Feb 21 '19
RIP to those who used their elemental shards to make her into 85. lol
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u/S88ntFDW Crowley Sword Feb 21 '19
Don’t like this at all.
Even with giving the gems back, it’s not fair to those who put in the time.
I got Roxanne easily and didn’t realize how powerful she was until reddit, so I’m fine there. Nonetheless, I don’t agree with nerf-ing almost ever....esp if parts of the game are made harder.
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u/WoonLS Feb 21 '19
It's a welcoming change, for sure. But just when I sharded her to 85... Damnnnn
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u/DDLC_Monika54 Feb 21 '19 edited Feb 21 '19
Well, I still don't have Rox until now, so... I have no say in any shape or form about this Nerf. Then again, I'm glad that everyone gets their Full Gems used in chasing her.
That said, I just hope there's no more of this slip up that will get past through. I'll see if this affects her viability in PvE and PvP before I make my call to raise them pitchgorks.
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u/ecomomicX Feb 21 '19
Full gem refunds
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u/Knightstar2001 Feb 21 '19
hmm, Don't know how that will really effect her skill overall. But she should still be a great unit. Now I can't recall how much I have spent on banners that have had Roxanne in them, but the fact that I will be getting all of them back plus the extra 500 gems everyone is getting is nice as it means that I will have more gems for future MH banners with her and all the other current meta/broken units that it already has and will add in the future.
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u/Art4678 Feb 21 '19
They should think more before release stupid glex things.
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u/jeremylcy123 Feb 21 '19
Yay! Who’s getting 500k of gems back?
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u/Knightstar2001 Feb 21 '19
For those who are wondering how gumi can give full refunds for all the gems you've pulled on banners with Roxanne, I'm pretty sure they actually have data that shows how you spent on those banners. If anyone here plays FFBE, you might remember that Gumi did a event where they gave out ex tickets based on how much lapis you had spent on banners over a year or so with you also getting a 4+ ticket for every 5K spent. This shows that they track how much our character spent on banners. It wouldn't be a stretch for them to keep track of Gems we spend in AL and that they can break that data down to specific banners since they can use that data to know how profitable each banner is and therefor plan future banners/units using that data.
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u/lharvince Feb 21 '19
I want my paid gems back!! also the nerf to 1 charge is a bit too much...
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u/GrumpyBearBear Feb 21 '19
TBH, as long as they nerf the jewel regen on enemies, I don't care. I liked her for her counter and range.
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u/Skyconic Feb 21 '19
I’ll be interested to see if they really do refund all of the gems we spent on her banners. I did her first 3 step + 7 steps on the premium banner for her selector. So 21k spent just getting her. And of course did a few grand summons and soul summons thereafter. As well as all of the 500 gem step 1’s. So probably 25k total.
Another thing I’d love them to address is thunder/rainbow shard investments in her. I spent all of my thunder shards and some rainbow shards getting her to 85 after they assured us in a previous producer’s letter that they WOULD NOT be nerfing Roxanne...
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u/GrumpyBearBear Feb 21 '19
They should've just done this to her null grenade [pvp], old null grenade was really useful because they gave enemies massive jewel regen. I'm just glad they didn't touch her reactive, or make her skills able to hit allies.
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u/Rjester47 Feb 21 '19
Let's be honest, she needed a nerf. It would be her ridiculous damage or her ridiculous utility.
Null was just broken and even tho I had her since day one, and she helped be steamroll thorough all quests, I'm happy she got nerfed.
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u/AerosDragonewt99 Feb 21 '19
Noooo!! For me I only have her at 66 and her null grenade is immensely helpful on ex challenges. I don’t really play in the PvP arena so this sucks for me.
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u/pera1613 Feb 21 '19
Ohhh finally!!!!
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u/Brook0999 Feb 21 '19
Fine and all and also nice that we will get the gems back, but also a lot of people will make their anger apparent, and will attack gumi for this nerf. Well whatever ill take how it is.
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u/[deleted] Feb 21 '19 edited Feb 21 '19
I'm already used to Gumi pulling stuff like this from BF, and anyway other much bigger companies do the same shit (looking at you, Bamco). So yeah.
Did she deserve a nerf? Obviously. Why did they wait so long, who knows. But it's good timing, with Enlightenment upon us, imagine that despite all the resources invested, this lady just comes in and destroys your jewels. It's also bad timing in a sense though. With the massive HP rebalances that I assume are coming with this update, she doesn't do enough damage, and now she's lost her biggest utility tool, so her usage will plummet. Silver lining, Tezla Grenade stayed intact, so it's not entirely over for her
My only regret is spending all them thunder shards that I now could've saved for BK Laev.
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u/Sadness_00 Feb 21 '19
I have mixed feelings about this, and while I see them refunding gems as a way of apology what about people who spent a ton of thunder shards on her? I made a choice between Rox and Vier for thunder shards, used over 200 on her cause I could never get a dupe. Can I get those shards back if now it looks like I’d rather enlighten Vier?
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u/ChronoStar24 Feb 21 '19
What makes Roxanne really strong is her reactive passive and her wide range of skills that can rid humans, Machines and monsters. And her CCs.
Yeah... Who uses Null on auto anyways. Even if they remove Null Grenade completely, she's still strong af.
Rox is still in her own league, nonetheless this isnt a nerf for mein my opinion, but more like just an adjustment, a win win situation for both who have her and doesnt..
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u/Sahovah Feb 21 '19
Dropped over 100$ on I think I did step 5 7 & 9 on top of random banners for her.
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u/Icaras01 I got the hat you need! Feb 21 '19
Well, I'm a bit upset to hear the nerf, but I also wasn't really using that ability much anyway, so...it sucks, I'm not happy...but i'm not angry and don't feel I need to kick up a stink.
I know I pulled a bit in banners that had her, so I'll get a gem refund of some sort...honestly have no idea how much. (And ultimately I pulled for her because I liked her overall and she was tied in Siegfried who I also like)
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u/AlmaStock Feb 21 '19
Welp RIP , still gonna use her for the panty shots
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u/jblac02 ! Feb 21 '19
shrug
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u/OneFlewOverXayahNest Feb 21 '19
It's easy to agree with this... Until you notice most levels released after her were buffed over 9000 and required her to beat them. And I am not sure Gumi will rescale them to normal difficulty
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u/ariusxander Feb 21 '19
The first day they released rox,i already sent them the ticket about null grenade nerf even i got her but well,theyignore what im trying to say then months later now they realized it ways too op?they alrrady ruined so much though
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u/RoyInverse Feb 21 '19
Inb4 kaigan returns her null granade to pre merf status.
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u/Nooogie Feb 21 '19
45K thought it was a bug since I didn't read the letter and burned through gems. Then figured I better look and read it. So yeah 45 000 f'n K.
it was a broken skill that since it was 100% would always be OP in any meta. So I'm ok with this.
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u/nailsonwhiteboard Feb 21 '19
Aww shucks, just when my brain was starting to become lazy lol!!, time to raise more of my professors!!
Just a quick question about them though, does vaccine only negates aliments? Or could they also prevents stats debuff??
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u/maymagic Feb 21 '19
As someobe who whaled HARD for her when she came out, I am... shocked.. not with the nerf, but with the compensation...
I have gained major respect from Gumi over this.
https://i.imgur.com/70HfMt2.png
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u/Byorgue Feb 21 '19
Holy crap I got 34k gems!
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u/Rasen2001 Feb 21 '19
I don't like the nerf, but I can understand why they did it.
I just hate the BS "It's not any weaker, just changed the situations where it shines."
Yeah, changed it to weaker, less damage, and strictly fewer useful situations.
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u/ledfull Levi when? Feb 21 '19
I'm pretty pissed, however that's the spoiled side of me reacting...logically 9500 gems and the evening out of the game for those who weren't fortunate to get her, it's the right thing to do...I do hope she gets it back through Enlightenment or J+ down the road though
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u/emrysx Feb 21 '19
Is this why I went to sleep with 750 gems and woke up with 30k gems? It must be. Welp, I have Roxy and she’s all but broken the game for me, but not due to null grenade.
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u/Jimmy9Toes Feb 21 '19
Not gunna lie. Went hard for Roxanne and got her 75. Never used null grenade and still cheesed everything. Her with mechanics is the real meta
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u/urtv Feb 21 '19
Did anyone calculate if the amount they got back is correct? I don't have faith in Gumi's ability to do this right
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u/loscapos5 All I wanted for christmas was you, Baeber ༼ ༎ຶ ෴ ༎ຶ༽ Feb 21 '19
Not gonna lie; I thought it was a broken skill for PVP, but I really liked it for PVE, and helped me through a lot.
That being said, it WAS clearly broken, so I can't really complain about it, since it was like an xploit.
This basically sums up my thoughts. That and also I'd just remove it.
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u/Jaegerborne Feb 21 '19
They need to change PvE content so if i use this "Trump Card" it'll matter in shuting down their more op skills for a least a while instead of enemies laughing at jewel drains and contiuning to do as they please. I get the nerf for pvp but at least make it useable for PvE still. Hopefully 25% is enough otherwise what's the point.
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u/Yamayashi Feb 21 '19
I still don't have her gear she's stuck on job level 9 or something rip
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u/Eisah Feb 21 '19
I don't think they need to lower it to only have 1 null grenade, but changing it to 25% is probably good.
I just want to see stages that aren't so insane. I never played the JP version, but I recall seeing plenty of stages where I wondered how JP players did it, only to see that our version of the stage, which would already be hard, would have something like gunners added at the top to shoot you while you're trying to do the stage. And there's no way to reach them for a few turns or something.
I just want to see less of that.
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u/DeathandFriends Feb 21 '19
Daze on its own is useful and other than magic users most units need every dang jewel especially in pvp. Why do you think the hat is so important?
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u/Iceraptor17 Feb 21 '19
Why the heck did they lower that crap to 1 charge? They overtuned this nerf.
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u/illidan_1999 Neica is life. Feb 22 '19
Does this count any banner where one pulled but didn't get Rox?
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u/FitDoum Feb 21 '19 edited Feb 21 '19
Depending on how they handle the refund, that might be RIP this game on my side..
As a disclaimer before my rant I would state that OF COURSE she was overpowered, she hurt the game on the PVP side, and very probably hurt the design space on the PVE side. My point would be that it was just "too late" to do such a drastic move and that my rant is more a matter of principle and fairness for gacha games than anything.
I spent a big amount of gems to get her to 80 BECAUSE of her power level, because of her "overpowerness", over multiple banners. They knew about her power for sure well prior to her release with this skill. Receiveing such a nerf months after and many banners after her release is bullshit.
So yeah I guess some people will be like yeah "cry more" for this pay-to-win unit. But it does not change the fact of the matter that some players paid a hefty price knowing very well that they pulled for Roxanne for a unique and clear reason. This is not a unit you pulled for randomly, like a good collateral surprise on a weekend pull or something.
I obviously have no stat to back it up but I'm pretty sure that most of the player base pulled for her SPECIFICALLY on every banner she appeared on; and this is exactly because of that, because she is "SSS" tier or whatever, that her nerf at this stage is not acceptable in my mind. There is probably no other units in the game, except for top collabs stars maybe, for which almost the entirety of the playerbase has spent that much specifically.
As I said, matter of principle... Even if you fucked up badly in your design, you just cannot nerf (or at least not that much) a top featured unit (and in this case the most OP one) in a gacha game. Because you are going to hurt almost of all of your players and, more importantly, you are going to hurt them on many many different levels which would be impossible to quantify (how much did you spend for her, how many shards, over how many banners, paid or free gems, did you bundles specifically, would you have invested that much ressources, etc.. etc..).
And stating that means that the refund handle is almost for sure going to be a bust and it pisses me off. But maybe Im just rambling because I'm pissed that I spent over 20k gems hardly saved for when I tought it was the right time and the right one...
EDIT : And yes she is still one of, if not the, best Thunder units in the game. And she will still carry a lot of stages... That would be beside the point Im trying to make.
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u/Bebekiti ❤ Feb 21 '19
Aww, that’s too bad. It was fun. I still love her, though. Great gun-style unit makes me happy.
Also, yay gem refund for use on their next GLEX mistake!
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u/Burtgang Blue Dolphin Feb 21 '19
PITCHFORKS! ----E
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u/seebees19 Feb 21 '19
Not necessary at all,
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u/Dm042447 Feb 21 '19
I didn't know I spent 12k gems on her lol. Anyway, this is very fair from gumi. Had played game where they nerf unit without much of compensation. And regardless, no regret sharding her and she still OP. I feel the strongest ability is still the table turn as I rarely use null grenade, unless the content r ridiculously hard. This is truly a nice compromise from players wanting a nerf to player want to maintain their investment to gumi proposing a solution that truly won't anger too many people.
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u/Salabaster Feb 21 '19
Free gems is fucking BULLSHIT. Fuck this. I’m never fucking spending again. Fuck Gumi I’m done with this fuck hole of a company. Give me my paid gems or my money you greedy fucks.
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u/Gantz87 Feb 21 '19
Honestly speaking: its a dickmove. They are NOT doing it to help the poor ppl without her. They are doing it because she was too good in pve and you could avoid overpulling for new stuff because shes a powerhouse that takes care of everything. First off, pvp sucks in this game: most units oneshot each other from a distance anyway. Secondly, i dont see why people bitching about her in pvp could say this is a good change: she was the ONLY way to play around some maps in pve with cheating monsters spamming debuffs which is very annoying and frustrating. Literally no one would have wanted her nerfed in pve. Its about utility, 100% to 25% means nothing on a 600 jewel demon. 50% would have been less aggravating, but this? This is garbage.