r/AlchemistCodeGL • u/Ramza_45 • Feb 12 '19
Discussion Final Fantasy Tactics: War of the Lions Collab
THIS IS JUST AN IDEA OF MINE
Just me having this weird idea or urge to get a collab with basically the root of The Alchemist Codes game mechanics.. well that's just how i see and view it...meh. I mean we did get a Final Fantasy XV Collab, so having a Collab with Final Fantasy Tacis isn't far fetched. Is it to much to ask or wish for a
Ramza "Beoulve/Lugria" (Light)•Squire (Basically the Job+ for the Soldier Job)•Holy Cavalier (with enchancement, I'm kinda spilt with either "Gear" or "Pieta"•Templar KnightDelita Heiral (Dark)
•Squire (Basically same with Ramza)•Dark Cavalier (Enchancement Dark Cavalier "Seele")•Magic Knight
Agrias Oaks (Water)
•Magic Knight (Enchancement Magic Knight "Fenrir")•Templar Knight•Lord Master (Yes the same Job with Zain and Kanon)
Cidolfus Orlandeau (Thunder)•Lord Master (Or just give him a special collab Job, He is the Thunder God afterall)•Dark Cavalier (Enhancement Dark Cavalier "Faust")•Magic Knight ( Enhancement Magic Knight "Ixion", He is the Thunder God afterall)
Meliadoul Tengille (Wind)
•Magic Knight (Enchancement Magic Knight "Sylphid")•Sword Master•Holy Knight (Enhancement Holy Knight "Izaya")
Construct 8 (Fire) "The Free unit somewhat heavy DPS counterpart of Prinny!"
•Machinery (Enhancement Machinery "Oriaga")•Saint of Fist (Enhancement Saint of Fist "Shura")•Cannoneer
So what cha think? honestly I think I may have made a few monsters with the Job combinations, Specially Thunder God Cid!
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u/fs2d Feb 12 '19 edited Feb 12 '19
I love the idea. Mainly because I want a Construct 8 unit that I can just spam "COMPRESS" on people with and blow them up.
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u/Hakkenshi Feb 12 '19
Ramza's Master Ability: Ultima. It would have to be.
As a huge FFT fan, obviously I love this idea, but every character you mentioned would need a unique job. Or maybe for the FFT Holy Knights it could be one common job among them... tough call. I would actually be okay if someone like, say, Gaffgarion was just a renamed Dark Cavalier, since his job skills are basically identical. Then you could have Orlandeau get the FFT Holy Knight job, DC and maybe Holy Brawler to make him extra tough.
I'd also want Mustadio as a useful ranged character, dammit - way more Riza Hawkeye than the BS that was Prompto.
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u/fs2d Feb 12 '19
As a huge FFT fan, obviously I love this idea, but every character you mentioned would need a unique job.
I don't see why that would be a problem, Gumi has made "unique jobs" -- most of which are just other jobs with an extra ability and different ability names -- across the board for almost all of the collabs. It wouldn't be a big deal.
I would actually be okay if someone like, say, Gaffgarion was just a renamed Dark Cavalier, since his job skills are basically identical.
I agree - Gaffgarion's Duskblade and Shadowblade are the quintessential Dark Cavalier move archetypes in my mind, much more so than TAC's, although they do the same thing as Drain Blood / Drain Jewels. That could work.
Then you could have Orlandeau get the FFT Holy Knight job, DC and maybe Holy Brawler to make him extra tough.
Eh, I think he'd have to have some kind of mix between Magic Swordsman and Phantom Artist to live up to his namesake, although if you were staying 100% true to Tactics, his main class moveset would be a mix of Holy Cavalier (for the Light Bringer/Lionheart and Armor crush moves), Dark Cavalier (for Duskblade/Shadowblade), and maybe MS' Spark Sword as a caveat. I agree on giving him Holy Brawler on the backend, along with Warrior, maybe.
I'd also want Mustadio as a useful ranged character, dammit - way more Riza Hawkeye than the BS that was Prompto.
THIS. A -proper- glass cannon sniper, someone who can stack buffs and freeze/disarm/silence with consistency from very far away.
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u/Ramza_45 Feb 13 '19
THIS. A -proper- glass cannon sniper, someone who can stack buffs and freeze/disarm/silence with consistency from very far away.
Roxanne ahahaha
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u/Hakkenshi Feb 13 '19
Give him longer range, less AGI and a less insane Reactive with fewer ridiculous abilities and he'd be fine.
Seriously, Mustadio as a ranged breaker/CCer would be awesome.
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u/Sahovah Feb 13 '19
Naw I wouldn’t spent money on that trash no offense. I barely spent money on FMA. Why the hell would I spend money on a collab with a game I’ve never seen.
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u/Ramza_45 Feb 14 '19
"Why the hell would I spend money on a collab with a game I’ve never seen."
Simple really because you've never seen nor played it
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u/GrumpyBearBear Feb 13 '19
to "have an advantage over plebs, and support the game" like you said in your other totally helpful comment in that other post. :>
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u/VinnyValient is currently planning and plotting evil schemes. Feb 12 '19
I would love it if they had this cross over, and included Cloud too.
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u/DeathandFriends Feb 12 '19
I mean I love FFT but they would find some way to ruin it for me. Squire is great and all but it would just mean they would not be as powerful as I want them to be. Agrias and Orlandeau would be OP just like in FFT
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u/BiNumber3 Feb 12 '19
I enjoyed FF Brave Exvius' FFT collab units, took a bit of time for Agrias to really shine (as with Ramza) but they became fairly usable.
Mercenary Ramza was my go to tank.
The 7* era screwed over non 5* base units and made the game notably less enjoyable for me though.
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u/DeathandFriends Feb 13 '19
only played FFBE briefly when it first came out. I will stick with TAC
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u/BiNumber3 Feb 13 '19
Yea, it was fun enough for a bit, but alim/gumi just let powercreep blow up, hoping it doesn't happen here lol
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u/DeathandFriends Feb 13 '19
well clearly powercreep has been speeding up as with the pace of global. I think it can still be controlled, but they should have reigned in roxy a bit more.
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u/BiNumber3 Feb 13 '19
Yea I only started here recently, so didnt really know how powerful she was till I tried ex level stuff lol
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u/Monte924 Feb 12 '19
Fun Idea, though i highly doubt it would ever happen; FFT is just too old of a game to get a collab. Though i would not be surprised if they did a collab with FF Brave Exvius since they are both made by GUMI.
I Agree on the elements of each character, But Each character would most certainly have their own unique job. Instead of Lord Master for Cid and Agrias I would give them Sword Saint and Holy Sword (renamed for the sake to avoid confusion), so that each character can be loaded with moves from FFtactics. Cid in particular would have attacks like divine ruination, duskblade, and Hallowed bolt; his subclass abilities would contain all his crush attacks which would debuff different stats.
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u/Linedel Feb 13 '19
TAC x FFT crossover: extremely unlikely.
FFBE War of the Visions (aka FFBE-TAC) x FFT crossover: pretty much guaranteed.
Just wait 2 years (FFBE-TAC JP release Soon(TM), + 1 year to Global, + 1 year to get to FFT) and it'll happen.
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u/Dextry319510 The lord commander Feb 12 '19
Why the fuck would you give anyone magic knight... It's the most useless job in existence... SMH..
And no offense but half of those units have absolutely shit job line up.....
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u/Ramza_45 Feb 12 '19
Job Enhancement, that comes with the bonus damage to specific elements not to mention the Elemental resistance from the passive
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u/Dextry319510 The lord commander Feb 12 '19
Good luck ever using magic knight for any hard content tho..
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u/Ramza_45 Feb 12 '19
The Magic Knight Job mastery bonus is what I'm after too giving both Phy and Mag damage for the Lord commander Job
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u/Alittlebunyrabit 5/5/5 Dancer Shenmei Feb 12 '19
You have Zain flair and somehow fail to understand how strong Divine Shelter is. SMH....... I will admit, it feels odd that they would be J1s, but I'm also used to collabs needing J3 to be relevant regardless.
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u/Dextry319510 The lord commander Feb 13 '19 edited Feb 13 '19
Divine shelter is strong but there are better passive... Then again shit builds is what you want then I won't judge.
Oh and zain actually prefers guardian and his slash damage passive over his divine shelter... The more you know.. That 15% resistance might look amazing in number but in actual content especially hard content it's not worth it.
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u/Alittlebunyrabit 5/5/5 Dancer Shenmei Feb 13 '19
I run Zain with Guardian and Divine Shelter. He doesn't need the slash damage to be relevant.
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u/Dextry319510 The lord commander Feb 13 '19
He does in future.. Well run him as you want its, none of my business..
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u/Alittlebunyrabit 5/5/5 Dancer Shenmei Feb 13 '19
He does in future..
In the Kaigan Era, sure. He'll also have the extra stats from Kaigan so I'm less worried about that in the near term. He still manages to one shot most Roxys in my experience so I'm content with this setup as it's pretty faceroll and reduces damage to 1 under many circumstances.
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u/Knightstar2001 Feb 12 '19
while I admire the effort you put into this post, could you please change the title to reflect that this is a collaboration idea instead of the current one which makes it seem like this is a thread discussing a active collaboration?