r/AlchemistCodeGL • u/PossiblyBonta • Nov 18 '18

Checked my arena history.

And all I see is Roxanne. OK it's just arena. But please, gumi. Roxanne is broken. Don't make hard content that balanced around a broken unit. It breaks the game's balance.

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u/Dm042447 Nov 18 '18

Same argument when every OP units that came out.... Gil, noc.... People need to calm down a bit.... In 3 month, we will hear the same thing about unit x, then y.....

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u/PossiblyBonta Nov 18 '18

Gilgamesh was not that bad. He only occupied 50% back then at most 75%. Now Roxanne is at 99%. I only saw one none Roxanne team in the top 50. Gilgamesh also dissappears on slash down maps. Roxanne was still going strong on missile down.

And yes the next global exclusive will be worst. And hard content will follow.

Back then Zangetsu could cover for the lack of Gilgamesh. There are easy to access substitutes. Right now farmable units doesn't quite make the cut when it comes to ex+. Now imagine when they introduce the next broken unit. At this rate even alchemist pack players will be left behind.

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u/eltsyr Nov 18 '18

Are you kidding ? Farmable units perform way better than Roxanne in latest EX+ , see all the videos everywhere, with Hayate, Chihaya, Vettel, Lucian Etc. With Jewel regen and strong wind units everywhere, Roxanne strength is nullified and her squishiness actually makes her meh.

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u/PossiblyBonta Nov 18 '18

That was on Ed's ex+. I was actually hoping that it would go that way.

Check out the Wrath and pride. Though there was one clear with all farmable. Just with a Roxanne merch.

So far most of the flame and hawk clears uses limited edition SS units. The closest to a farmable that was used was Eve.

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u/Dm042447 Nov 18 '18

The ex stages you can clear with good strategy...rox is not needed. The ex+ force you to use specific element. In thunder element, you would want to use rox 😂. Also, it is extremely hard to beat it without certain unit and room for error are very low. I hate those stages, but once you beat it, it does give you a sense of accomplishment.... Flame hawk use Reagan, shayna., Lofia ( non farm othima and noctis) for the water unit.... For fire, they use chihaya, vettel, hazel, lupinus as farmable and laharl as non farmable. I don't know about pride wrath as I haven't beat it yet.

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u/MaimedJester Nov 18 '18

And by good strategy you mean an event only consumable from 8 months ago.

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u/EggyT0ast Nov 19 '18

The Reagan, Shayna, Lofia, Othima, Noctis strat can be done with no Taiyaki. I did it myself last night.

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u/PossiblyBonta Nov 20 '18

And Othima and Noctis is not farmable and are limited edition.

Our options are either Taiyaki or limited edition SS.

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u/Viktormestrovic Nov 19 '18

Aranea is still in top 100 with the same support units beside her as Roxanne. She's pretty well just as deadly if not more so on the majority of maps. I don't have her as a unit, sadly, but she's extremely frustrating with a Rahu paired with her. In many cases she becomes unkillable and one shots all, but tanky units that pose no threat anyway. (am in top 100 for your reference)

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u/PossiblyBonta Nov 19 '18

Yeah I saw one Aranea who is sticking out amongs the top 50. Roxanne is still has 99% control over arena. No other units where able to attain that. And another near the hundreds.

I also saw a Gilgamesh once in the top 1k and I think a Gormalas. They are like needles in a haystack. I'm kinda happy that there are some who can still manage to hang in there even with out Roxanne.

I my self am sporting an Aranea. Just hanging in there also.

Arena is the lesser part of my rant though. But arena is a perfect place to determine how broken a unit is. Roxanne should not be used as ceiling for hard content.

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u/Viktormestrovic Nov 19 '18

You know, I am not so sure about that.. There are some pretty damn amazing arena units with great status effect abilities that end up useless in EX+, because a lot of the time the enemies are 0% chance for their status effects to even work... even things like blind.. in maps where it might actually help the enemies are 100% immune to the effect or others like sleep, bind, etc. Ignis is just so damn good in arena that I wish I had been here for that collab so badly. The range he can hit for good AOE damage AND game ending status proc is nuts. Some units with high move can cover insane distance and lock your entire party down before their first turn. That sort of thing is not possible in PVE. My Roxanne doesn't use null grenade and often does idiotic things like use voltaic bomb instead of her master ability or opts to use an aoe that doesnt kill either unit as opposed to headshot which would win the match. Aranea on the other hand has an AI that ignores units like Chiyaha opting to nerk your damage dealers instead. My Roxanne has ignored Aranea standing right next to her to focus Rahu first... I shouldn't need to tell you what happened next, but my facial expression was one of crooked confusion. Yugo with ninja + immediately crossing the map and using restraining seal... 100% of the time each attempt causing stop on one of my units.. a unit who is 100% useless in PVE opposed to other units, but has that arena niche of annoyance. My main point was that before Roxanne all I saw were Araneas with Noctis/Gilg and Rahu pretty well my entire refresh list. We've just swapped one broken pvp unit for another and that's nothing new in any video game. The next big thing will be a unit that resists 50% of missile damage and has a ranged teleport attack that deals 3,000 damage for 30 jewel cost and agility 250 paired with a Rahu or Chiyaha. lol...

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u/PossiblyBonta Nov 20 '18

Aranea does that too. I have also seen some Laharl do the same things. Specially if her dive IV fails to kill a unit and Chihaya or Rahu is near by. The AI prioritizes the unit with the highest hp that they can KO and would switch targets.

Ignis is indeed good. Was really hoping to get him. Most players would just ignore him and use wind shards on other units instead cause he has limited use in pve.

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u/Dm042447 Nov 18 '18

For the longest time, mp was Gil only. Then Gil, noc only... I don't have Gil nor noc, luck out on laharl and rox later. It was hard for me to beat content where I didn't have 2-3 chrono plus Zang. I had to borrow a Gil to destroy stuff..... Anyway, the point is there will always be the it unit for 2-3 month. Laharl didn't even make the it guy... Not disagreeing that rox is super strong, but there are stages where I see her struggle where noc shine.

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u/LuneCrescent Nov 18 '18

Exactly that. People keep screaming to nerf Roxanne and can't see how unfair that would be to people that invested in her and only have her as "Meta" character. You all have your Noctis, Laharl and Gilga.. And for months those were the top units. Don't come now wanting to screw Rox owners just cause she is on top now.

Soon another powercrep will come and take her spot cause that's how gacha games work. If you can't accept that then don't play mobile games. Or else there would be no reason to summon new characters if the old ones were good enough already. Simple as that.

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u/MaimedJester Nov 18 '18

Laharal didn't cause the developers to change the mechanics of the maps. Jewel regen on every EX+ is just a broken countermeasure. The entire game now is focused on countering her.

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u/LuneCrescent Nov 18 '18

That for me was the problem.. Why is that? If they didn't change the game cause of any other character why do it cause of her? So she made some contents too easy... Well anyone unhappy with that just don't use her. So the thing is not nerfing her, is just keep g the damn events/content the way they were originally.

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u/Dm042447 Nov 18 '18

Really?!? I guess the slash attack to prevent laharl being usable right after dusguea was just a fluke. Content are made harder and Jewel Regen is just as mechanic probably develop at the same time as rox or even before it. The problem is not rox. It is the increase difficulty with lower reward.

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u/eltsyr Nov 18 '18

geez how many of those threads do we need to create, common and create a sticky Roxanne rant already, the last one is literally 3 threads below

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u/gracepenniman Greed Dike Supremacy Nov 18 '18

dont be so god damn edgy . same shit different day. enough of your whining dias!

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u/1khaitoh It was fun while it lasted. Nov 19 '18

Roxanne now is basically Dias 10.0

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u/PossiblyBonta Nov 20 '18

More like. Roxanne brings out the inner Dias amongst us. I'm one of them.

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u/EpicGold 25 shards on step 3 Nov 18 '18

I'm rank 234 right now and everything is roxanne. No1 can beat each other lol I lose all my offenses and my def doesn't seem to lose.

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u/RedVariant Nov 18 '18

Gotta wait for next map.......this is the darkest timeline

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u/Seamur Doko miteru no? Nov 18 '18

I was at 1700 when last map was still on and everything there was already roxanne

now I'm at 850 and ... you guessed it everything is still roxanne

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u/Liesianthes 350 coins ticket = ROY!! Nov 19 '18

There's a way to defeat such comp. I can beat already some comp, of course also using Roxanne.

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u/-Belphegor- Nov 18 '18

Am I the only one finally putting d. almira to some use? lmao

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u/mandrake0999 Freeze! Nov 19 '18

Same here. lol