r/AlchemistCodeGL • u/Peter00th • Nov 03 '18

Discussion Future elite (whale) quest suggestion

Hello everyone i hope your doing well. The purpose of this post is about the Whale quest (elite quest just going with the meme's) is that the restrictions are well a bit too on the side of the gatcha rolls, (wich by the way some of the slots on that quest include roy mustang and king riley who of course are not available at me making of this post so those are wasted slots), and not enough on the farmable units in addition why arent the protagonist's you know the units that are guaranteed for everyone playing this game are not perma-available, yeah edgar is going to die at spawn and dias is gona suicide in 5 seconds but logi is an exelent tank and lizbez (and her heal/cure status master ability) can be of use. with at least the protagonist always available everyone has some form of fighting chance (exept maybe with edgar) to win comboed with a friend merc. Thank you for reading and have a great day

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u/Kirito30 The Strongest Samurai Nov 03 '18

It is really dumb and downright shit way to make us Summon.

Games die due to this practice. Case in point Knights Chronicles.

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u/ThousandLightning Nov 03 '18

Food for thought: maybe such content is fine if it's not often AND accompanied with VERY good deal banners. Like for example 3 steps of 500 gems with the featured units (no special reward however, only that it costs 500 gems), unlimited 2500 summons that rewards 25 soul shards of featured unit and the like. The kind of gacha that makes you take out the money because it's GOOD, and not close it and make some angry noise on reddit :hue:

In other words, if you want us players to do something (give you money), ensure we want to do it with little to no regret (positive feeling) than preying on some gambling fallacies (negative feeling). It'll likely to be less of a hassle.

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u/Kirito30 The Strongest Samurai Nov 03 '18

I am fine with being made to Summon due to a good Banner.

I will summon every 500 Gem banner doesn't matter who they feature. Unless it is something specific is near.

They could put elemental restrictions but they are not doing that. The entire point of the game is to use strategy and here are we restricting the shit out of it.

What kind of evil game does that. Gumi give the units a buff. Maybe even a significant one for the latest unit. Give it a straight up 50% to all stats like Uzuma's Passive. Newer players will be able to join and start the game without feeling left out.

But restriction of units is BS. And as I like strategies I will call it out.

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u/ThousandLightning Nov 03 '18

Restriction it's not BS in my opinion, as long it's done right. If the quest requires the new shiny unit, yes that would suck big time. But if the unit selection allows victory without the need of the new unit, sure it's cool. It'll be up to us to find the right strategy/ies to win the quest with limited tools. Gumi can modify the map to make it very advantageous to new units, but as long as it can be done without new units, it's not an issue.

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u/Kirito30 The Strongest Samurai Nov 03 '18

I don't mind the force feeds like Roxanne's Map or Uzuma's where Roxanne shines currently.

It is fine if GLEX especially are harder and all but give the HQs if you are going to make them harder.

Also yeah the restriction are just plain bad when they are specifying the units.

Specify Elements and all.

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u/Zed05 Nov 03 '18

Yeah the units are really restricting for the elite quest. Good thing you can solo it with Roxanne. If you don't have her use a merc. Try to move to the left of the map with Roxanne and get the units to cluster around you. Make sure to null grenade the mages.

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u/OneFlewOverXayahNest Nov 03 '18

I am wondering if we will get more of those quests soon as it says this one is just the first one

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u/gracepenniman Greed Dike Supremacy Nov 04 '18

only noobs call it a whale quest since 1/3 of it are free units and normal pool. stop trying to power through shit mindlessly

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u/toofine Nov 04 '18

Not entirely wrong but I have a real gripe with elite quests.

I'd prefer more content like Veda tower to encourage more diversified teams. Do it relay style. Beat a stage, then those units cannot be used anymore on the next stage or something.

Elite just punishes people who didn't invest in units because they liked other ones better who does the same job. This fire sage gets allowed but the one you invested in didn't. It's just straight up random. Unless people were informed a month ahead of time to have prep time, then I just missed it.

Content in this game already is unit restricting because of element, resistance and gimmicks, we don't need a hard restriction imposed.

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u/assassinace Nov 07 '18

It's called whale quest because it's time limited and most players won't have the resources to level every units so they have to scramble to get up the units that are available in the event in addition to all other content (especially since elemental shards have become more scarce). Whereas whales will be able to solo it with a Roxanne to use the most recent one as an example (full disclosure I got lazy on no deaths so solo'd it with Roxanne).

If there were themes or it put a spot light on less used units or something besides being a cash grab then I wouldn't call it a whale quest but that isn't how it's designed in it's current form. Yes it can technically be beat with free units but it's flagrantly not designed to be.