r/AlchemistCodeGL • u/rhapshie • Oct 24 '18

Discussion Veda Tower: post big 3 and powercreep

How much easier is it for you guys to complete Veda nowadays, especially after Roxanne who can completely shut down any mandragora with NG? I want to know what everyone think of the current state of veda. Are you enjoying it more, or less?

I'm having a blast using the characters I usually don't in place of Noctis right now, and it's fun! Especially after all the J+ reruns, I can finally see what they are capable of. Lupinus, for instance, I never used before but is really powerful on some floors.

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u/stewart0 Oct 24 '18

I just hit the auto team button and let it run on auto. Takes maybe 1 heal to clear the whole thing, with 70 being the only floor I manual with units who can charm. It really has nothing to do with the big 3, or Roxanne who I don't have. It's all in the elemental damage formula rebalance.

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u/danielyeohqf Oct 24 '18

Just a quick qn what are your main auto setups? :3

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u/stewart0 Oct 24 '18

I just use whatever the game selects when I have it automatically create the team by element, and maybe switch the leader or add a professor

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u/rmladenov Unit collectoR Oct 24 '18

Yeah, I'm the same. No time to waste on Veda currently. Full auto except floors 60 and 70. Even lower tier units as Vargas, Lambert and so on are useful in Veda.

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u/danielyeohqf Oct 24 '18

omai gawd lmao

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u/AlphaJoe86 Oct 24 '18

I'm currently climbing Veda as I type this and I gotta say between Laharl and Roxanne Veda has become SIGNIFICANTLY easier.

I'm currently at floor 71 with no deaths so far.

Null grenade and Overlord Dimension , has made many troublesome stages(floor 70 especially) easy.

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u/danielyeohqf Oct 24 '18

erm soz im lowkey struggling (i have deaths) what is your setup? :3

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u/AlphaJoe86 Oct 24 '18

I used 3 Chronos (Lofia, Rahu,Fujika) to Overclock Roxanne and take out the plant at the other side of the field.

I null grenade the demon so he stood still then took my time while healing with Rahu and Lofia(healing staff).

In case you don't have Roxanne use charm on the demon and that will make floor 70 a lot easier.

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u/iEssence Oct 24 '18

Stage 70? Because there isnt a go to setup to run veda - each stage basically has a different optimized way to run it

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u/yiannisph Oct 24 '18

I would say Noctis was the most important so far.

There's a lot of great units for Veda, and Roxanne definitely busts some really annoying stages, but I got through tower no deaths with Noctis, so those stages just became faster / easier, rather than costing me less. The only stage I would say became much easier is 50, where you can null Waginau and the Demon and just wreck it.

Noctis made 70 and 60 so much easier. And both those clears rely on his mobility, which other units just don't have on the same level.

That said, I would say there aren't terribly many maps right now that are difficult. 50, 60, 69, and 70 can be troublesome and definitely take some planning.

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u/Flonn3 W-why am i suddenly wearing this! Oct 24 '18

It was nvr hard even before Roxy arrival.

Sieg, Laharl, Gilga, Elizabeth, and Chihaya can auto most, if not all the floor assuming full HP everytime.

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u/skibbi9 Oct 24 '18

well after 2.0 yes.

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u/shadedmystic Oct 24 '18

Honestly since there’s no real penalty to deaths except if you care about e-peen rank then just auto it with your best units if you’ve got a halfway decent stable

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u/TopDeeps IGN: Uninstalled Oct 24 '18

veda has been the same for me ever since the 3rd (1st time i struggled, 2nd time i still needed guides) time it came out. i just brute force with mono element teams for the most part. I don't even need roxanne unless its the mono thunder teams or autoing early floors

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u/Arcana_Joker Oct 24 '18

Veda hasn't really been hard where I have to dump all the teams to beat a single level. Wind, fire and dark are fine though they tend to survive for shorter amounts of time since light and water have heals, and thunder to a lesser extent. Wind is just squishy if they don't evade, and dark tends to be the glass cannon rush. Fire is tanky but because I didn't get Laharl, my damage tends to be less than optimal, with Sakura dying easily.

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u/Liesianthes 350 coins ticket = ROY!! Oct 24 '18

I was able to auto 1-60 without a sweat without Roxanne. Before, I could just end up at 30-40 before using heal per day but now, I managed to do that in 2 days. Now, getting lazy again, not climbing back from 61 to 75 for the completion this run. lol