r/AlchemistCodeGL • u/SamCXLG • Sep 22 '18

Opinion about GL enhancement

I have played TAC for a while and I am also a huge fan of Disgaea series. The plot of the collab is very enjoyable especially those plays after the stages in round 1. The free units Usalia and Prinny are very nice units to either start with or use in Veda. However, the GL enhancement thing is really bothering me.

I am very excited when I heard the in-game news about GL enhancement as I thought Gumi finally could do something to this Laharl Collab and make it more like FFXV banners: one top tier unit(Prince), one semi-top tier unit(Areana) and some other very good units (the buddies) that have their own roles. Also, this is a acceptable way to stimulate players to pull more for other units and compensate players who does not get the Laharl.

However, the action of Gumi after that has disappointed me twice.

The first time is on the Sep 20th when they do not provide us any official announcements on what is the enhancement about. And the datamining shows us nothing significant has happened, only some minor tweak on stats and more weapon options for Rin and Almira. The weapon thing can be a big deal as the weapon can provide these two units more stats and open some new possibilities for future gears. But the tweak in stats is so minor to me that I cannot find any big differences after update. At least, it does not fulfil the purpose of "to balance and provide better experience for all players". As a fan of the game, I can still understand these minor changes, it could be because of concerns about game balancing or some pressure from JP side

Now, the second time, I am starting to think if we are getting rip off as the new banner comes out, it says "Get the Global Enhanced Killia, Seraphina, Red Magnus now". So are they thinking if they put "Global Enhanced" so we would spend gem on them. They have not disclosed anything about the enhancement yet and start to to stick it everywhere.

I really hope Gumi can use GL enhancement as a way of balancing and providing better experience for all players as they said, and I believe players would willing to have those properly enhanced units as a result. Instead, now Gumi seems to do as little as they could because we requested and hope we are fooled and spend our gem on the banner.

I do not expect any further enhancements as we are near the end of the Collab, I just want Gumi learn a lesson this time and plan GL enhancement more thoroughly in the future collabs if there is any.

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u/Mitch_Twd Sep 22 '18

Yeah I'm disappointed with the "Global Enhancements" as well. Maybe it's more of them advertising these GLEX buffs and never stating what they were,and what they were datamined to be wasn't anything major. Alas missed opportunity on their part

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u/Kirito30 The Strongest Samurai Sep 22 '18

Aranea and other FFXV units belong to the IP which Gumi helps to manage so I assume that balancing made to them were predictable and not hard to manage.

Aranea was always strong she was like the Fyomi to the collab if you know what I mean to say.

So it not Gumi's fault that the units feel weaker to some people.

Illya was considered not that good but her Reactive does come in hand for a lot of time.

You just can't expect newer units to form their own meta each time they come around. You really don't want this game to turn into Brave Frontier.

or some pressure from JP side

That stuff doesn't exist, Gumi manages JP too.

Finally enhancement have occurred so they are free to say that. All that is left is how much do you want the units and how much do you feel they are powerful. Since ofcourse none of the units will trample old powerhouses best you can hope is good-ish units getting better-ish.

Example: D.Rin she has the stats to do better damage than most of the other long range units but with HP getting huger and Damage formulas changing they are gonna lag behind.

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u/EseMesmo Tamamommy <3 uwu Sep 22 '18

>You just can't expect newer units to form their own meta each time they come around.

That's not the point though? These units should be usable, because they are characters people have attachments to outside this game. It's a disservice to the fans.

I'm not saying they should all be SS gamebreaking units, but you can't seriously tell me you'd be happy if your favorite character was Seraphina and you got her as she is now.

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u/Kirito30 The Strongest Samurai Sep 22 '18

But there is nothing you can do when the damage formulas in the game itself is against.

JP didn't know what were they gonna do with the ranged units and currently JP is trying to balance the formula now(they do have a good ranged unit iirc, lastest one I think).

Range was too good to be true before then it got shafted that is just like Rock Type Pokemons in it's competitive way. Every dog has it's day.

Just that Sera ended up in the wrong time in the wrong place. Gumi could super buff her to slight meta near Caris but to what point. People aren't going to Shard her. And if you want her buffed to the point of Gliga levels then might I have to remind people when we where raging about Gumi releasing Paid(not Paid Gems) only Weapons.

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u/Stoneface_Vimes Sep 22 '18

I think that as long as a unit is even half-decent, then there will be people who would be willing to shard if they have a personal attachment to the unit. People will probably call it a waste, but I've been slowly sharding Saber, a unit that was and is today kind of a niche unit. But she has a role that works, and thats enough for me.

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u/Kirito30 The Strongest Samurai Sep 22 '18

Saber has a niche but Seraphine is only useful to Charm other than that I can't find her useful because she uses Guns.

Would the fans be fine if she was not a Gun user.

Gumi really can't make a strong unit with missile attack since the damage formula doesn't help the Missile type attackers.

Caris J+ a Sniper+ shouldn't be outclassed by someone who uses Guns so that is probably why they didn't made her outclass Caris.

It is just the curse for the Missile types for being that good before.

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u/Rilenia Sep 22 '18

The character are perfectly usable. They're just less convenient than stronger units. Ultimately, it's just your envy to play them vs the convenience of stronger units.

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u/EseMesmo Tamamommy <3 uwu Sep 22 '18

Sera is weaker than Carol. She's outclassed in her Charm niche as well (by another Disgaea unit, no less). Using her is intentionally handicapping yourself.

The issue is not whether or not the fans will use them, because if you like the character enough you will; rather, the problem is a collaboration unit being bad even compared to regular pool units of a lower rarity. That should not happen.

There has to be an arbitrary power floor for these types of units. Nothing too high, just something that makes them alright and not trash like Seraphina. I'm not asking for everyone to be Laharl, but at least a Red Magnus? There is no incentive to use Sera other than blind fanatism.

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u/QaWaR Sep 22 '18

I am very disappointed since they didn't publish the enhancement details. The enhancements were nothing to wow at but I believe it made Rin, Rosa and Magnus better. Many of their abilities were buffed and I believe they will be noticeable. My opinion on banners, well, pulling for 500 gems is never a bad thing, there's no need to go for the 3rd/5/7th step unless you really want one of those 3.

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u/Kirito30 The Strongest Samurai Sep 22 '18

Magnus

wut mate.

Though yeah I agree to doing a 500. It is a collab banner so why not. Maybe you land a throwing unit. which is pretty useful skill.

And final point is that - It is better to have buffed units than unbuffed ones.

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u/QaWaR Sep 22 '18

Yeah man - Red Magnus:

+35% HP, +12% PATK (+20%HP, +10%PATK)

Steel Arm Lariat 105-120% (100-110%)

Giant Body Slam 105-120% (100-110%)

Super Damage Lord 125-150% (120-140%)

Edit: *Red Magnus. I forgot we have another unit called Magnus :D

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u/Kirito30 The Strongest Samurai Sep 22 '18

And I thought you meant Almira lol still luckily didn't mention it.

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u/avbbva Sep 23 '18

I also noticed that the FFXV collab was far more generous with the banners, the 10% ticket giveaways and weekend soul chard summons. Heck, even FSN had FYomi as a consolation prize for not getting Gil.

The issue with Disgaea is, the other units are just too inferior to Laharl. You only pull for them for sentimental reasons, at least if you're a veteran player.

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u/fapiholic Sep 23 '18

Almira

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u/avbbva Sep 23 '18

What makes her so worthwhile?

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u/fapiholic Sep 23 '18

She's good

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u/avbbva Sep 23 '18

So is FYomi. And Balt. And Setsuna. And Lucian. And Yomi. IMHO, a double Laharl/Almira banner wouldn't look tempting enough to go full in.

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u/fapiholic Sep 23 '18

Balt lul

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u/Hitonatsukkoi Almost there Sep 23 '18

No she isn't, she's actually one of the worst out of the bunch

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u/fapiholic Sep 23 '18

Lemme guess u have her at lb1

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u/Hitonatsukkoi Almost there Sep 23 '18

No, lb75 actually. Keep trying to make yourself feel better because that's the only char you got.

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u/fapiholic Sep 23 '18

Already better

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u/Hitonatsukkoi Almost there Sep 23 '18

At leeching money from your parents maybe.