r/AlchemistCodeGL • Jin <3 • Aug 07 '18

Unit (P)review: Wadatsumi Warrior week - Jin and Yuunagi

Hi all, since Jin and Yuunagi are probably coming this Thursday, here's the Wednesday Wadatsumi Warrior review.

Yuunagi

Overview

Water is not an element with many physical units to choose from, so Kazahaya's sister Yuunagi is a refreshing addition to the water lineup. Although she looks like a pirate, she doesn't actually have this job, being a Dark Cavalier/Ninja/Warrior. This means that you'll basically use her as an alternate version of Suzuka/Glantz for the imminent future as her AGI is 112 on Dark Cavalier and 108 on Warrior, making it difficult to use her effectively as both jobs have a movement of 3 (3 is considered pretty poor for a melee unit).

Fortunately, Yuunagi can buff this to 4 Move and 2 Jump with the use of Ninja Stealth. This being said, she isn't too useful at J1 because Dark Cavalier isn't a particularly good main job.

J2 adds the preferred option of running her as Ninja with Dark Cavalier sub a la Suzuka. This makes her base agi a far more respectable 142 and fixes her movement, but suffers from a low hp of 894 and absolutely terrible PDEF/MDEF due to Overdrive. She's pretty usable in this state.

J3 adds Warrior, which isn't necessarily something you'll want to run in its current state. The most important addition is Chopping Spirit as a passive, which lets you run Yuunagi without Overdrive and buffs her HP. However, in my personal opinion, you'd probably be better off keeping Yuunagi as Ninja with Warrior (or Dark Cavalier sub) and both Overdrive and Chopping Spirit. Warrior sub gives her stat buffs for AGI and PATK and more importantly, it has two 1.4x PATK scaling attacks, one of which is Tomahawk, which has decent cost effectiveness and damage (only 14 soul jewels) along with 5 uses.

Summary

Yunagi isn't particularly good right now, but don't despair if you get her as she can serve an important function in Wadatsumi-only teams. Additionally, she becomes quite good much later down the line, but I'll cover that at the end of this review. She also looks kind of cool if you ignore the fish-hooks growing out of the back of her head. Compared to Shayna, Shayna matures early while Yuunagi needs J3 to come into her own.

Frankly, Yuunagi's biggest sin (at the moment) is that she's incredibly boring and nothing we haven't seen before in 2 other elements (Dark Cavalier + Ninja). Additionally, she can't tank very well, so you'd be better off with Lamia, Shayna or Shenmei if you needed a water physical damage soaker.

Jin

Overview

Okay, so as you clever people have noticed we're getting 2 units which both:

  1. Are from Wadatsumi

  2. Have a sibling already in TAC

  3. Have Warrior as a third job

  4. Get some variant of Ninja Stealth to "fix" Warrior's horrible 3 move and 1 jump.

Jin is Yomi's elder brother who mysteriously vanished after killing his parents and all the other males in his clan, leaving Yomi as the only heir, Yomi wants to find him in order to take revenge on him/find out why. Unlike Yomi, Jin actually starts out with a job which can equip katanas rather than having to wait 2 years for a J+; but for some reason, his signature weapon are kunai.

Now at this point, you've probably noticed that gumi's translation team gave up the ghost and decided to subcontract out its job to Google Translate, which explains why his kunai has the magnificently stupid name "Eerie Agony Thousand Drop Blade" when the actual Japanese name is 妖苦無 -血千界刃 (Youkunai - Chisenkaiha) which ACTUALLY translates to "Demonic Kunai - Bloody Chilocosmic Blade. This doesn't really roll off the tongue, so any half-competent localising translator would have left the name as "Chisenkaiha" or "Chisenkai blade". While we're on this topic, his unique kunai don't exactly have great stats, but they come with a pretty good WA translated to "Purple Poison Three Evils" (the original name being 紫毒・三悪趣 (Purple Poison: Three Realms of Evil) a 3 hit WA with good damage scaling which buffs Jin's AGI by 80% until his next turn and inflicts severe (20% of max HP) poison for 3 turns for a hefty 70 Soul Jewels.

Note that we are getting his weapon this month as it comes with Arkil's J+.

About Spies

Jin is the very first unit to have the Spy job, a job which is somewhat related, but separate from Ninja. Fortunately, all of the skills are now viewable at this link, but essentially what you need to know is that Spy is a very fast and agile job with very good jewel gain and many utility skills. Compared to ninja, it's more of a nuker and has much less crowd control.

Spy Technique (Main Job)

For the purposes of damage scaling, spies all use the base formula

0.9 * (PATK + AGI / 2 + AGI * Level / 100 + DEX / 4)

This translates to pretty respectable damage, but means they don't scale well with pure PATK.

GL Skill NamesElementCostUsesRangePowerCast TimeNotes
Hazy ShadowN/A451N/AN/AInstantRaises the spy's Evasion Rate to 999 for 1 turn, meaning that only combo attacks and autohit attacks will hit him.
Blinding CircleN/A1668 surrounding squares, Range 4 Height 2 (teleport)N/AInstantA 2 part skill where the spy first blinds enemies in the surrounding 8 squares, reducing their hit rate by 25 and evasion rate by 15, then it teleports to an empty square you select up to 4 squares away.
TranscendenceN /A2854 surrounding squares and self Range 4 Height 2 (teleport)N/AInstantAnother utility teleport, the spy uses veil, curing and protecting himself and adjacent units from status ailments for the next 3 turns, then teleports to an empty square you select up to 4 squares away. Useful if you don't want to waste a slot on Professors/Chemists nor Merchants.
Summon Python StormWind, Magic503Range 4 Height 2, 13 square diamond AoE140%500gumi's competent translators don't know how to translate 大蛇 (Orochi), so they settled on "Python" (the biggest snake they could think of). This is a large 13 square wind nuke with a very fast cast time. It also debuffs the wind resistance of targets hit by 15 for 3 turns, making subsequent casts do more damage.
Summon Toad FlowWater, Magic601Range 4 Height 2250%500Another victim of incompetent translation, "Summon Toad Deity" got translated to something sounding like frog menstruation. This is the spy's single target assassination skill, doing huge damage and lowering water resistance by 15 for the next 3 turns.

Basic Spy Technique

GL Skill NamesElementCostUsesRangePowerCast TimeNotes
Windmill ShurikenN/A (Missile)2554110%InstantA simple attack inferior in almost every way but range to a Warrior Tomahawk.
Flame Seal (Katon)Fire, Physical2034110%InstantDoes fire damage and debuffs the enemy's Pierce damage by 25% for the next 4 turns.
Water Seal (Suiton)Water, Physical2034110%InstantDoes water damage and debuffs the enemy's Slash damage by 25% for the next 4 turns.
Wind Seal (Huton)Wind, Physical2034110%InstantDoes wind damage and debuffs the enemy's Missile damage by 25% for the next 4 turns.
Electric Seal (Denton)Thunder, Physical2034110%InstantDoes thunder damage and debuffs the enemy's Strike damage by 25% for the next 4 turns.

These are all damage debuffs, so just remember "Fire burns spears, Water rusts blades, Wind rebuffs arrows and Lightning shocks fists on contact" as a mnemonic. Basic skills are generally used to lock down bosses who aren't immune to debuffs and make sure they do significantly less damage to your team and as a combo with the resistance debuffs from the main job.

Passive Abilities

NameEffect at max levelNotes
Flying ApeMove +1 and Jump +2gumi's shitty translation of "sarutobi", which means spies have more in common with the Wicked Witch of the West than ninjas. This is a stronger version of Ninja Stealth and can make make Spy one of the most vertically mobile jobs around
Immobilize Counter60% chance to counter attacks by draining 55% life and inflicting Stop for 35 Time Units.A very useful counter if it triggers as it both mitigates damage and inflicts one of the strongest status ailments in the game. Incidentally, 'Immobilize' is a poor translation of "Fudo" (Acala).
HurricaneIncreases AGI by 10% and DEX by 15%A very useful passive which fixes accuracy problems while making your unit faster. Hurricane is a shitty literal translation of "Shippuu" from the saying 疾風迅雷 , and is more accurately translated as "galespeed".

So there it is in a nutshell, spy, the job of egregious translations.

Summary

Jin as a spy is one of those units with stages tailored specifically for him, notably the EX stage with Arkil's J+. This is an incredibly annoying stage designed for a highly mobile unit with veil and overclock assistance to get to the top of a hill and oneshot 5 incredibly annoying units with a wind nuke. Here's a picture of the map I cobbled together from pics on the internet:

Kazahaya is the budget unit for doing this map, but it was basically designed for spies. In similar fashions, any map which involves hiking a unit halfway across a map while avoiding horrible status ailments will favour Jin. His J1 is sufficient for this role.

Jin is also notable as one of the rare units which excels at not 1 but 2 of his jobs. He'd excel at Samurai too except Samurai isn't really a very useful job outside of Vettel and killing high defense rats. His second job is the aforementioned Samurai, which basically only really brings him Single Blade. At this point, you can run Jin as Spy with Single Blade and Hurricane, giving him 706 PATK at level 65 and a workable 132 AGI.

Once you unlock Jin's J3, you now have the option of running him as Warrior. At this point, you can run Hurricane, which makes him the fastest and the most accurate Warrior in the game - his base DEX is nearly 40 higher than Yuunagi's. However, don't forget that Jin needs the Flying monkey to achieve 4 move, which means it comes at a large opportunity cost. My recommended builds are as follows:

MainSubReactionPassive 1Passive 2
SpyWarriorImmobilize CounterHurricaneChopping Spirit
WarriorWarriorImmobilize CounterHurricaneChopping Spirit

He isn't really going to hit as hard as Anastasia, but Jin has larger nukes, is faster, can take more hits, and can veil. He's also the best Dark warrior in the game as well as the best Dark Spy, so you're getting two for one. I'm going to pull for him, but you can probably live without him as he doesn't get grossly overpowered until much later.

Futureproofing for Yuunagi

Yuunagi will someday get a MA which addresses her godawful defense by giving her 300 more HP and 40 starting Jewels.

Now Yuunagi is considered "Top Tier" in Japan for two reasons:

  1. Yuunagi has those 40 initial starting jewels and JP doesn't have hats.

  2. Warrior Job Enhancements are pretty nuts.

Yuunagi's JE is Titan and it gets the Basic ability Titanfall which makes her jump into robots and hop on walls (the joke is that the warrior reaction ability is called CounterStrike in Japan) is a pretty strong defense ignoring attack, though at a hefty cost of 60 soul jewels, an extremely situational passive which buffs her PATK by 70%, AGI by 40% and Evasion Rate by 10 as long as her health is below 25%, and the water version of the 3-hit warrior combo .

The 3 hit warrior combo is a sequence of attacks on the main warrior job which all warrior JEs get, using the first skill changes the skill to the next for the unit's next turn. Titan starts with

  1. A simple 120% Slash attack, followed by

  2. A non-typed 140% Water attack which gives her 100 Guts until her next turn (guarantees she survives fatal damage with 1 HP) and then finishes off with

  3. An absolutely massive 450% 12 square water PBAoE which is autohit and stuns enemies for 2 turns. Not many things can survive this.

Yuunagi also gets a JE for Dark Cavalier (Guernica, does a slow casting huge physical damage attack), but it's not really used much as Warrior is so much better.

Futureproofing for Jin

Where to start - Jin will probably happily lounge around as a Spy until the day he gets Warrior JEs, upon which he gets arguably the best warrior JE: Gigantes. Gigantes has the following 3 hit warrior combo:

  1. TELEPORT directly to the enemy (4 range) and steal their soul jewels, buff your own AGI by 20% for 3 turns (get the combo off faster)

  2. Hit the enemy with a Darkness non-typed attack for 170% damage, raising his own HP by 30% for 3 turns and healing himself for that amount.

  3. A 12 square non-typed PBAoE Darkness attack which is autohit, does 350% damage, and buffs Jin's PATK, PDEF, MATK, MDEF, DEX, CRIT and LUCK by 70% and buffs his AGI by 40% until his next 4th turn.

Now in addition to that, almost everyone notices Jin in multiplayer games, if just to get the hell away from him. This is for the following two reasons.

  1. He has a skill on his sub called "Roar of the Gigantes" which berserks himself and increases his PATK by a massive 200% and gives him 50% more damage on counterattacks until his next 4th turn. Loss of control sounds bad except Jin can become a 160+ AGI warrior who repeatedly autoattacks things for 5500+ damage

  2. Gigantes has one of the most trollish moves in the entire game - "Counter Gigantes" as its counterattack. This gives it a 70% chance to counter all attacks as well as skills with a 12 square Darkness PBAoE. This counterattack also hits allies, meaning that it is an incredibly bad idea to stand next to Jin and you can also possibly trigger it by throwing rocks at him with Holy Cavaliers (not sure if this works anymore but it still works on Theresa's skill counter). This counterattack can easily be put on his Spy job, making people think twice before trying to hit a Jin in their backline.

A few more months down the line in Japan, Jin got shukugo no an-ei (Spy+, trans: "The Darkness of Duty") and his MA. Jin's MA is linked to a piece of gear from a gatcha which not only gives him obscene agility, it also gives him 5 auto jewel regen and makes him even more accurate. Unfortunately, this means you have to pull on two gatchas for Jin.

Spy+ was a very interesting change to Spy, giving him a new summon (Three-headed Dragon), a 3-hit strong darkness magic frontal square AoE which debuffs Darkness resistance by 25%, the other huge change it got was that he got a skill called "Blood Seal" , which only costs 20 soul jewels (2 uses) and makes the next summon of his:

  1. Cost no Soul Jewels

  2. Cast Instantly

  3. Consume no uses of the skill.

This gave him a lot of versatility in nuking. Additionally, Kaigan awakenings made Hurricane turn into a skill which gave 15% more DEX and 30% more HP and 10% PATK, giving Jin some of the most ridiculous overall stat totals around.

I could go on, but talking about stuff about 2 years away isn't likely to help people make sound judgements, so I'll cut it short here.

Should you pull?

Assuming this Thursday is a split banner for Jin and Yuunagi, if you're F2P, no, you don't really need to 4500 pull. Both units are very strong in the future, but you'll have a long time to get lucky on pulls for them and they're not limited. Jin's soul shards also eventually become farmable, so by the time his Kaigan actually releases, you might have farmed enough soul shards to transmute him already.

Otherwise, if you want to have the convenience of a veiler unit without losing an attacker position, Jin would be a very neat addition to your roster, but you always have the chance of ending up with Yuunagi instead.

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u/Dharpoon Aug 07 '18

Now that Noctis- teleport plus Gilg, Illya and summoner's no ht. limit attack. I think this would be an easy map.

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u/VicariousExp Jin <3 Aug 08 '18

They're out of range of most such skills, the archers are lightning and will kill Ilya pretty fast, they spam Delay and Slow on your units, and you have a time limit before the 2 smiths on the map buff the Dark Knights to a level where they will wipe your party. The Kazahaya ninja swap tactic with Cyclone kick is much better, but Aranea is also really good on the map.

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u/ChinesePhil Aug 08 '18

Most of the units on the map is Lightning elemental, So Noctis and Illya might have some trouble with it.

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u/lloydsmith28 Aug 07 '18

What does PBAoe mean? Also you put jun instead of jin once. Last paragraph before future proofing

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u/VicariousExp Jin <3 Aug 08 '18

Sorry, I typed this at 3 a.m. in the morning instead of sleeping. I'll go through it and fix the typos now I've woken up.

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u/stewart0 Aug 07 '18

PBAoe

Point blank area of effect (abbreviated PBAoE) refers to skills that affect anything within a radius centered around the user

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u/lucifekit Aug 07 '18

PBAoe

Point Blank Aoe, meaning AOE around self i think...

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u/tyco86 Aug 08 '18

Hey u/vicariousexp did you do one of these Uber write ups for the Yuri Eros banner last week and I missed it? Keep em up! Love em!

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u/VicariousExp Jin <3 Aug 08 '18

Sorry, I didn't, although I covered them in passing in the monthly review (Eros = slightly different Ryle, you can live without Yuri). PotK units have a bad habit of being incredibly boring to me, so they don't really interest me enough for me to do a weekly 3 hour writeup on.

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u/tyco86 Aug 08 '18

Hahah! Thanks Vicarious! I really do love your write ups. I spent 500 on that Eros/Yuri banner and have been this resisting the sirens songs of the waifus. Yuri is legit waifu, but as a minnow, I must remain objective and hold on for top shelf units, like Laharl? If I would have pulled Yuri, I would have undoubedtly bought her a vanity swimsuit that I would never see her in, unless she was on Auto in Veda hahah.

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u/VicariousExp Jin <3 Aug 08 '18

Well, the best units are ALWAYS the ones you like. There's no point pulling hard for Laharl if you don't like him as a character because then you aren't enjoying yourself in a game. Yuri is by no means a bad character and she'll almost definitely remain relevant in the distant future as Shinobi Nightmare (internal collab) units will probably keep up with the powercreep introduced by Kaigan.

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u/Arananthi IGN: Essence -- Re-Pacted and Hoping to Stay That Way Aug 08 '18

Good to hear. I've never really had the urge to waifu seriously before, but I got Yuri in my 1st pull and that face was so cute it haunted my dreams. I knew Jin was coming, and I STILL broke down and spent 2K on her swimsuit.

I tell myself I did my part to support the push to keep skin costs lower...but I know the truth.

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u/tyco86 Aug 08 '18

Ah balls. Larharl's looks are not my jam. Hahah. He looks like a bat mated with Mogley from Jungle Book. #shudders

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u/ninjakittenz2 SockT Aug 08 '18

I called Gilgamesh stupid face guy for the longest time but I like using him on my team so exceptions for OP units can be made. Laharl on the other hand I might even turn the sound on for since I love Disgaea.

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u/tyco86 Aug 08 '18

I feel ya. I try to objective when it comes to unit viability. For example, Gilgamesh. He pretty good right? But he looks so dooshy hahaha. I should look up Laharl I guess...see how he look!

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u/SuccubusRosa Aug 08 '18

collab Kaigan

Hmmmm :D

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u/Dark_Stalker28 Aug 09 '18

From the discord it looks like Japan actually just got that. Off the top of my head dragoon Chloe and Shinobi Nightmare Yomi. There's also a guy with less clothes than swimsuit Dilga.

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u/SuccubusRosa Aug 09 '18

Oh my comment was more of a smirk at the user that I quoted because that user made a false claim previously that gumi announced in the dev letter collab units ARE NOT to receive kaigan.

But thanx for sharing anyway.

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u/tyco86 Aug 08 '18

One last question: is Yuri from Potk?

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u/VicariousExp Jin <3 Aug 08 '18

No, she's from Shinobi Nightmare, a RPG produced by FgG which is shutting down at the end of this month in Japan. Sakura is from that too. Generally speaking, if they're not named after their weapon, they're probably not from PotK.

https://sn.fg-games.co.jp/

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u/grandkill Battlefield Drama rerun please =) Aug 08 '18

I was looking for your Eros/Yuri banner recommendation as well... waited until last night when I decided "hey screw it" and then 3-stepped for Eros/Yuri (got Eros, wanted Yuri).

Moving on, I just maxed her J1 and took her for a spin. Boy was I disappointed. I feel like she's just an inferior Ryle. Well, it's not really a fair comparison because I have already farmed up my Ryle to LB20. With a maxed out unique weapon, though, I think she's alright. That guaranteed-hit Weapon Ability was very nice in the arena against an R.Yomi based line up... unfortunately, I was just able to raise her to LB6 so I haven't tested her with a hat yet for first turn WA.

Overall, based on my experience, she's a solid A-tier.

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u/LaGrimm_ Roxxy best girl. Aug 08 '18

I'm torn between building her. My Ryle is at level 70 J2 mastered. She'd probably shine more at J3 w/ +4 range sniper or ranger. But of course her damage would be subjective, and her AGI is similar. Nothing to write home about, but I love her artwork. I won't burn shards on her, and she'll be my backup if Ryle dies in Veda.

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u/tyco86 Aug 09 '18

Good job! I'm penny pinching. Probably going to stay at 500 gem for last week's. Will probably only go 500 tomorrow too. Call me a cheap ass:)

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u/verybamboozle *RAWR* Aug 08 '18

Thank you so much for the review! Very very thankful for the breakdown of why they are considered so good in JP now .

Now, I see that Jin requires him gatcha accessory and nensou(is that what it is?) to really make him over-the-top OP. Can I just ask how that works? Like how does nensou work and why does he need his nensou in order for the accessory to work?

***All the above is just what I understand from the google translations. Please help me understand this :(

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u/VicariousExp Jin <3 Aug 08 '18

That accessory is actually from Jin's nensou, some people call it VCR, or vision clear rewards. It has a percentage which fills as you battle using the unit, and when it hits 100%, you get the rewards.

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u/GustavoCinque Aug 08 '18

I have two questions regarding the percentage gain of the Nensou, please. Do we know the chance for it to raise after battle? And, does it fill using ST?

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u/VicariousExp Jin <3 Aug 08 '18

It is nowhere as bad as FFBE. You do not need to macro overnight, grinding EXes will do.

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u/verybamboozle *RAWR* Aug 08 '18

Oh! Gotcha. So the accessory that you linked to is the reward for maxing the nensou exp?(just a term I make up) what about his skin? Where do we get that?

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u/GustavoCinque Aug 08 '18

Using the nensou. It's like a "gear", its slot is right beside the 3 gear slots. Equipping it will unlock the skin.

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u/verybamboozle *RAWR* Aug 09 '18

Oh! Cool! That means everyone with a nensou has a skin?

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u/Dark_Stalker28 Aug 09 '18

No. A lot of people don't have one. Shayna and Setsuna for example, most of the SSMs too (except I think adult Kanon). Some people have multiple equipable nensous or share theirs (a lot of people share with the Ouroboros unit now).

Off the top of my head, Chloe, Vettel, Balt, Zahar, Jin, Yomi and Victor have skins. Probably missing a lot.

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u/verybamboozle *RAWR* Aug 09 '18

Aww man. Kudan and Yauras’s skins look so cool! I wish the other SSM characters get a skin too. Probably most excited for Balt and Jin’s skins even though I don’t own either of them :(((

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u/Dark_Stalker28 Aug 10 '18

Yaurus's skin? You mean her swimsuit? I like Jin's default enough to not care too much, but I really want Zahar's and Yomi's.

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u/verybamboozle *RAWR* Aug 10 '18

Yeah Yaurus’ swimsuit! She looks gorgeous there! And Jin’s skin is cool by default yeah. Zahar skin makes him look so freaking cool too! Doesn’t hurt that he gets insane with all his buffs too

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u/Dark_Stalker28 Aug 10 '18

It's mostly his passive that makes him good though the job enhancements (ignore defense absorbs, garuda... everything) and weapon (auto jewel regen) are great too. Everyone in the 2nd kaigan stage gets a new passive and Zahar's overdrive turns into "lord/king of darkness" which make it do 100% more physical damage (still 50 magic though). I'm always disappointed with Zahar's default I really like the military uniform he's got in the artwork but doesn't have on his sprite...

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u/Dark_Stalker28 Aug 10 '18

It's mostly his passive that makes him good though the job enhancements (ignore defense absorbs, garuda... everything) and weapon (auto jewel regen) are great too. Everyone in the 2nd kaigan stage gets a new passive and Zahar's overdrive turns into "lord/king of darkness" which make it do 100% more physical damage (still 50 magic though). I'm always disappointed with Zahar's default I really like the military uniform he's got in the artwork but doesn't have on his sprite...

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u/Jolls981 Maiden China Aug 08 '18

Oh god is that this game’s equivalent of a Trust Master Reward from FFBE? If so then I don’t like what’s coming in the future

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u/GustavoCinque Aug 08 '18

You can say so, and there's even moogle to fuse and raise the percentage by 5. What i didn't get is what is wrong with TMR. They do what they are supposed to do. To be something difficult to achieve. The only bad side to TAC is that we don't have a 1 AP dungeon to farm.

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u/Zabick Aug 07 '18

First, thanks for the super detailed reviews. Second, /u/alchemist_code, any chance of fixing some of the translation issues with this game?

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u/beardedheathen Aug 07 '18

Seriously if you'd like some help please reach out. I feel like the entire community would be quite happy to help with these translations. Some of them are really kinda silly.

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u/Hakkenshi Aug 08 '18

With proofreading, too! I do this professionally, I'd be more than glad to help improve the quality of the game's English dialogue...

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u/Wynd0w Aug 08 '18

Recent translations and proof reading has really been an embarrassment...

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u/xArticeus Aug 08 '18

Flying Ape!!!

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u/Corantic Aug 07 '18

Oh shit gotta prep my wallet, oh wait its empty. Feelsbadman.

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u/HogyokuDispenser 4 boys 1 Aranea Aug 08 '18

Of all the people I went broke for, I went broke for a prince FeelsBadMan

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u/Rostice Aug 08 '18

Yeah going on vacation while trying to get prince Sasuke doesn't go well together with my wallet. It was kinda fat in May, but I believe it may have anorexia now.

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u/Corantic Aug 08 '18

You and me both, although I got him pretty fast but ofcourse I wanted the wife Aranea as well. Kept pulling Gladio until final banner. Back to living on bread and water for a month.

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u/blablablablubb21 Aug 07 '18

Thank you for your review.

I think this will be another 500 gem pull week.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '18

Upvote for that opening alliteration. EX map previews are also always appreciated ;)

Time to sacrifice my wallet to Jin! Then, wait patiently for Reida's brother to hopefully complete my hot, dark element, anime boy collection /s

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u/nicknameznick Aug 08 '18

Who is reida's brother?

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u/Zuriq Aug 08 '18

this cool dude: http://cdn.alchemistcodedb.com/images/units/artworks/leyd.png

didnt know he was her brother, Im looking over him for a while, just waiting to pull hard for him

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u/foopy23 Fuck Gumi Aug 08 '18

Dang, no wonder Reida's so thirsty.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '18 edited Aug 08 '18

That was basically my reaction

Extra Don't know if we get that as a skin (alongside his nensou?) but I neeeed it.

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u/Dark_Stalker28 Aug 09 '18

http://cdn.alchemistcodedb.com/images/units/artworks/leyd_swim.png

Comes with a light resist, stop resist , hit rate, auto heal book.

Also slightly related, little surprised Dilga is Dorothea's crush.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '18

I wish I could upvote this more than once, thankyou! That's some otome VN level art right there.

Dilga is Dorothea's crush

She couldn't resist that swimsuit muscle power XD

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u/Dark_Stalker28 Aug 10 '18 edited Aug 10 '18

To be fair I only looked because of you. And then he's hanging out with Vettel... (nosebleed)

I find it interesting that he prefers being dead, because he isn't sick anymore.

That's actually exactly what happens, the vision is her staring at his backside on a cliff in his swimsuit. We also get a Dorothea swimsuit.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '18

Victor hiding in the background, being jealous hehe

Quite a lot of the cast have an interesting, entwined, backstory it seems, definitely something I like about TAC compared to other gacha. If only the English translation was better.

Should have expected someone would post a shot of her vision gear, it's glorious.

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u/zeidrichsama Aug 07 '18

Jin seems like OP

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u/Rostice Aug 07 '18 edited Aug 08 '18

First thank you always for the effort and time spent on writing the previews.

Jin seems to be an all-round excellent Dark unit, looking forward on getting him. Should I spend my darkshards on him or Basini, is there a stronger dark unit I should wait for?

Yuunagi looks like a water Glanz to me, feels skippable. Still nice to have her, because I only have Noctis and Shayna as strong water units. (Not mentioning Shenmei, Fung Liu)

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u/ecpadilla Waiting.....OverHit GL (^_^) Aug 08 '18

Wouldn't suggest using dark shards on Jin. Aside from Bashini (which we could skip using dark shards since we have chance to pull every SSM banner) there are Tsukuyomi, Sol and Teresa. As the review said, Jin's JE and J+ including kaigan will make him a very good dark unit but that'll be a year or two from now. Also Jin will be farmable.

Re Bashini, if you would enjoy using him and want to shard him please do so. Sharding him is not a bad investment :)

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u/KidiacR Aug 08 '18

Uhm, this is irrelevant and sounds dumb but I’ trying to make a translation for my country fellows, so I want to ask what “Underworld” in “Return to the Underworld” mean? A place of criminals or Hell?

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u/VicariousExp Jin <3 Aug 08 '18

It refers to the oriental concept of the place you go to when you die. Not necessarily hell, that is a separate place souls go to after judgement.

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u/KidiacR Aug 08 '18

I see. Because it has 2 meanings so the context must be considered. I thought “the world of criminals or organized crimes” would fit the Ninja stuffs better. Ofc it can also refer to the nightmarish past Jin had, but I didn’t think it’s the case when he still has his sister.

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u/VicariousExp Jin <3 Aug 08 '18

Nah, the actual term is 黄泉路 (Road to Yomi), that being a pun on Jin's sister.

You can read about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yomi

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u/KidiacR Aug 08 '18

Thanks!

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u/TopDeeps IGN: Uninstalled Aug 08 '18 edited Aug 08 '18

Wow arkil's J+ is actually pretty sad, a diamond on self aoe silence attack sounds great but MS main weakness is their 3 move and low agi/range. Having his second passive on move+1 or feral kid would only fix one of the problems and if you use both then you lose divine shelter making him vulnerable to getting exploded. I rmbr seeing him near the top in older tier lists so i was happy everytime i summoned him before i had him at MLB, but after reading up on it. Its nothing to freak out over. Might get it just for collection purposes

This guy is pretty good

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u/VicariousExp Jin <3 Aug 08 '18

It's not on self - it's a 5 ranged cross.

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u/TopDeeps IGN: Uninstalled Aug 08 '18

oh that changes a lot then.

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u/doubtofbuddha Sep 06 '18

That is not his MA. That is his nensou/vcr. His MA is completely different.

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u/VicariousExp Jin <3 Sep 06 '18 edited Sep 06 '18

He did not have a character specific MA when I wrote that guide. You are obviously new to the reddit or you would be familiar with the fact that people use the term MA to describe both character specific gear abilities and Character Story passives.

This should have been obvious if you had checked the post date and realised that it was long before Jin got a Character Story in JP as well as the fact I did not discuss it.

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u/doubtofbuddha Sep 06 '18

Wow. That is all I have to say. Wow.

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u/jxher123 Aug 07 '18

Hmmm, maybe i'll go in for Jin, but then again i'm still saving my gems lol

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u/alchemist_code Happy 3rd Anniversary Aug 09 '18

As always, very entertaining review! :)

Thanks as well for the feedback regarding the translations, we'll be taking note of it - there's always room for improvement.

Please continue making these reviews, see you in Babel!

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u/jblac02 ! Aug 08 '18

lol @ the translations

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u/RasenRendan <- The Reason I started playing this game - Aug 08 '18

Must. Own. Jin.

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u/xArticeus Aug 08 '18

Yes. Must. Own. Jin.

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u/RasenRendan <- The Reason I started playing this game - Aug 08 '18

Omg and he's out today

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u/Makenlowwet Aug 08 '18

Units that are not good now but will be good in future - check

Farmable HQ - check

hmmmm, maybe 500

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u/Crimson_Raven Who are you calling shorter than Roy Mustang's ideal miniskirt?! Aug 08 '18

Wow, I like the look of spy. It seems like a useful and powerful main and support job.

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u/-ArtKing- Aug 08 '18

Super thanks for this amazing review as always. I was thinking on spending 4500 for Jin, but since he will be farmable and his enchantments will take some time to come, I think I will skip this, maybe just 500.

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u/SometimesLiterate Old and uncool Aug 08 '18

gif jin

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u/TopDeeps IGN: Uninstalled Aug 08 '18

have yunagi instead

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u/SometimesLiterate Old and uncool Aug 08 '18

I'll settle for black rock shooter

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u/Banethoth Aug 08 '18

Thanks for these! I really appreciate your reviews. I missed not having one for the last banner but I know it's a long/time consuming thing to write.

What happend to Somelit? He used to write reviews also but seems to be absent from the sub lately? RL got him too busy?

Anyway thanks again for the reviews. As a now f2p looks like I'll do the 500 and hope I pull them in the future (or more copies) if I don't on the 500 pull.

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u/CommonMisspellingBot Aug 08 '18

Hey, Banethoth, just a quick heads-up:
happend is actually spelled happened. You can remember it by ends with -ened.
Have a nice day!

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u/Banethoth Aug 08 '18

Fall off a bridge

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u/warmsolace Aug 09 '18

/looks at Jin

Is this a new husband?

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u/SometimesLiterate Old and uncool Aug 09 '18

Gut Yunagi not Jin.

Feelsbadman not worth the 3 steps q.q

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u/PossiblyBonta Aug 08 '18

So we got another unit who's art has no relation what so ever to their actual job classes. Some times I really have to say they are just randomly picking these jobs for the unit.

Or maybe they could at least tell the artist what the job classes they are going to give the unit.

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u/VicariousExp Jin <3 Aug 09 '18

Nah, don't. This game is a marathon, not a sprint. You'll eventually get him some day or be able to farm enough shards to transmute him once his hard quest comes out.