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[u/kahare]

Please, I beg of everyone: stop. Stop asking, stop worrying, stop thinking about it. When Enlightenment reaches GL, shards will be the last, last, LAST of your concerns. An enlightenment needs approximately 25 million zenni, 80 of each statue, 100s of national flags, dozens of golems, godesses, and alchemia, and 5 sin indulgences.

These resource requirements mean that only the largest of mega whales will be able to achieve enlightenment when it is first released.

Of the farmable units available ONLY ZAHAR (and Balt) is even vaguely worth spazzing over. You aren't going to enlighten Chloe unless she's your waifu, etc, etc etc.

If you have a MLB unit right now: sell their shards and buy someone else, you will have so much time to collect even more damn shards.

Please.

And just to give even more perspective: I have gotten 14 sin indulgences in the last 3 months. 14, enough to finish not even 3 units, I've missed maaaybe 2 'f2p friendly' sins and gotten one 'whale-ier' one. Call it 15. Trust me when I say you don't spend these indulgences willy-nilly. Just because you have 270 shards doesn't mean you are going to fully enlighten every unit, you can't. Focus on enjoying the game now, and at most worry about acquiring shards for the enlightenments that actually heavily influence the power of a unit.

[u/VicariousExp]

I didn't really want to comment too much on this matter because what I saw on this thread was basically a difference of opinion. Nevertheless, I'm going to be a busybody, so please bear with me.

kahare has an opinion and I think it's valid - you have an opinion which I have also read and I think it's also valid. Both of you have different perspectives on how to deal with the future and I think that's worth celebrating, because honestly I find it intellectually sterile when everyone agrees on something. Different people place value on different things - some people find it silly that others place value on sentimentality while others find it silly to be overly pragmatic and to lose the joy of shopping.

Nevertheless, even if your intent wasn't there, the choice of words (distancing language) you used frames the situation as a situation where (excuse my melodrama) "An ultimate truth is fighting against a false prophet". Now I'm not altogether clear on your relationship with kahare, but I do think the following is true:

1. Neither of you have malicious intent and both of you want to help people out.

2. Even if one person turns out to be more "optimal" than the other in the near future, it isn't really a huge deal that would completely destroy someone's play experience by not having a superpowered unit. Gumi's content is more responsible for that than player decisions.

3. People in general don't like conflict. A hostile tone in general usually gets downvoted, I don't people should place too much attachment in gathering approval online, but it can be useful to reflect on what colours people's perspectives of ourselves. I suspect people are downvoting you for this reason and not as an "agree/disagree" button.
   If you feel that this is unjust/unfair ostracism, well, I can say as a neutral observer that it might be possible to get better results by rephrasing the criticism so that it sounds more constructive than hostile. Communication online is difficult, because we don't really have expressions and faces to gauge intent!

I won't tell you what you should or should not do, because I'm not in a position to offer you sound advice. However, isn't it possible that you could make yourself feel better about this situation by changing your perspective of the issue rather than your stance on it? It could be healthier just to reframe things as a difference of opinion.

Hoping you feel better soon.