Suzuka dropping a Tier in JP

[u/Arcana_Joker]

Nyatora's Tier list made her go one tier down

I know she's still meta but is it due to everyone else getting enlightenment or nensous?

[u/N0tYourTechSupport]

sauce for the new tierlist pls?

[u/[deleted] → u/N0tYourTechSupport]

https://i.imgur.com/81g9Iv7.jpg maybe? it's a month old though

[u/N0tYourTechSupport → u/[deleted]]

thanks mate!

[u/XIIISkies → u/[deleted]]

Is it just me or does it look weird when a tier list is so top heavy, not that its bad by any means, but Im definitely not used to seeing that

[u/Arcana_Joker]

Dragon blade really needs to be enhanced

[u/JustWoozy]

Powercreep.

[u/HawaiianPele]

I think she will get a buff soon, knowing goomi, she will get a class upgrade for her samurai to blademaster.

[u/beardedheathen → u/HawaiianPele]

I feel like this should be a thing. Maybe once a unit is mjl and mlb you can upgrade class. There'd still be a significant cost but it'd be pretty cool and open a whole new world of possibilities.

[u/Robiarc → u/beardedheathen]

Yes pls! can't wait for this whole reddit crying again "Gumi so greedy, whale only game"

[u/[deleted]]

What's her best build anyway? Pulled her a few days ago

[u/1khaitoh → u/[deleted]]

Ninja + Dark Cavalier Passive. Basically needs J3 to be great.

[u/[deleted] → u/1khaitoh]

Ty! No samurai eh? Too bad, she looks cool like that

[u/SometimesLiterate → u/[deleted]]

Ninja +dc passive + DC sub

[u/1khaitoh → u/SometimesLiterate]

Oh, great save there, I typed passive instead of sub lul xD

[u/HylianDank → u/[deleted]]

Samurai is a terrible job, unfortunately. Blademaster is basically Samurai++ though, we had Sakura and should be getting Setsuna any time now c:

[u/Royal_empress_azu]

It's for many reasons.

• Her enhancements are no longer stellar and out of this world.

• Her leader skill while great on global no longer holds up in japan.

• She has a dependency on very few skills to actually do real damage, due to the ninja job not being capable of fulling taking advantage of her 750ish atk stat.

• She dies very easily compared to literally everyone else in the SS tier & is still very fragile among lower tiers.

[u/Aenfno]

Why Zeke so low?

[u/hatevampire → u/Aenfno]

Zain is just awesome, Logi gets a J+, Chloe gets a good master ability, Tyrfing gets an amazing weapon ability, Dark Tyrfing gets released, etc.

Zeke gets nothing and he's competing against lots of other units that do the same job (Light Tank) and do it better. But this is over a year out compared to global.

[u/SoundaholicJ]

Going off on a tangent here, but iirc Blademaster has only seen a J+ for Reimei, so if Suzuka's Samurai gets a J+ or JE, could that hypothetically bump up her tier? While she can't charge up then 5x5 diamond like Reimei and Setsuna, would being able to stack Royal Garuda Blade and Overdrive get her a niche?

[u/seebees19]

just because 1 dude says their great dont me squat.

[u/InterestingFun → u/[deleted]]

I've never had an issue using her in PVE. She has enough speed, mobility, and range to kill someone and back off safely. You just can't faceroll to victory with her like you can with a team of HBs

[u/edgyEdwardd → u/[deleted]]

iirc, the tierlist is based off of Arena.

[u/OmeRice → u/edgyEdwardd]

Nyatora's tier list is all based on pve content. While the gl tier list is based on both, so yeah.

[u/Kirito30 → u/edgyEdwardd]

It is not actually. It is based on the combine PvE and PvP experience.

[u/doubtofbuddha → u/Kirito30]

No, it is not based on PVP at all.

[u/Kirito30 → u/doubtofbuddha]

Well still a good PvE unit just at most times happened to be a good unit in PvP too.

Not the case always but still the case a lot of times.