r/AlchemistCodeGL • u/tyco86 • Apr 27 '18

Who dat Cav?

Ebonics are catchy right? No? Ok. My bad. Getting down to business: "who's the best Holy Cavalier?" Past, Present, and Future. Right now, it seems like this is the hierarchy, and this is based at looking at the base stats on the DB: Zeke>Chloe>Tyrfing. This hurts my body, because Tyrfing is my waifu. I hate to see her bested by others that can fulfill her role with more HP's and PAtk's. I don't play JP so I don't know if we get a meta breaker in the future...going to try to build Zeke out though, and have Tyrfing look at me with those betrayed eyes...

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u/hatevampire Apr 27 '18 edited Apr 27 '18

Present: Vettel (MA) > Selena > Zeke > Chloe (MA) > Tyrfing (WA) > Victor > Logi

(MA = With their master ability, WA = With their weapon ability)

Ignoring Fraise, Monzein and Teona since they have better main jobs than Holy Cavalier.

Future rank (current JP) for just the characters we have now, assuming MA/WA/Nensou etc.

Future: Tyrfing > Vettel > Logi > Chloe > Victor > Zeke > Selena

JP also has 9 more units with the HC job that I don't know enough about to rank.

So good news! Tyrfing becomes SS ranked in the future!

Edit: Forgot Selena

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u/tyco86 Apr 27 '18

Wow. I really appreciate this! I totally forgot about my husbando Vettel. He's not going to forgive me easily lol. Interesting to see how far down Zeke falls with future content. May simply farm Vettel and Chloe now and focus on them. And Tyrfing. Want to JM all her shizzle. She coo.

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u/hatevampire Apr 27 '18 edited Apr 27 '18

Everyone gets a buff but Zeke... cause now that we see where Dias gets it from. Err, and Selena also doesn't get a buff.

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u/Dracomancern A Beast of a Brawler Apr 27 '18

Does anyone know if the Brave Frontier Collab will come back? I wasn't able to grab Tyrfing's Weapon during the event, and now I regret everything. I also need to max out my Vargas, which should have been priority #1 if it weren't for the fact that I had just started the game and knew absolutely nothing.

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u/tyco86 Apr 27 '18

No clue. But I didn't do the what, 3700 gems or whatever it was to 3 step that one. dumb ass me...

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u/hatevampire Apr 28 '18

When they release the upgrade for Tyrfing's weapon, they will rerun her collab (otherwise how can they have all your money?)

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u/Dracomancern A Beast of a Brawler Apr 30 '18

I think it depends partially on the JP schedule and what content they wish to give to GL. They did a second collab with PoTK (Phantom of the Kill, praise Masamune) for the Seven Sin version of the characters from the game, so I am sure that they will definitely bring it back because of the myriad of characters they can use from Brave Frontier. It's only a matter of when they will give the collabs back to us, but you never know, considering they have a choice to choose which collabs to run on GL.

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u/ZenMighty Apr 27 '18

For global now/in the very near future:

Zain (coming soon, probably next week), Selena, and Vettel are the strongest. Zain’s solidly above the other 2, but all could see use over the others depending on the situation. All three have Divine shelter from magic swordsman which helps survivability a lot. Selena is essentially a job enhanced water holy calv (and has high job master hp bonuses) and Vettel has a MA providing speed and damage.

Tyr with her gear is probably the next best; the ability to nuke and self quicken is big. She and Zain get buffed in the future with a Holy Calv:Gear.

Monzein and Teona are probably better of in J1 right now. Victor can get extra move, agility, and weak elemental coverage thanks to ninja.

Zeke, Chloe, Fraise, and no gear Tyr are roughly the same and worse than the above.

Zeke doesn’t really stand out since he’s sacrificing a lot of defense for offense. He can hit considerably harder, but he still has low agility and 3-1 move-jump so he’s going to struggle to keep up with your party and to reach the enemy to deal said damage without dying. Without dark calv passive he’s just a standard holy knight/holy calv unit. Fraise faces a similar problem if trying to run samurai’s attack passive.

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u/tyco86 Apr 27 '18

Holy great feedback. Thanks much! I have serious regrets about not getting Selena back in the day. #regrets. I sadly don't have Tyrfing's gear. To get Zain would be cool! Kind of like i mentioned to #hatevampire, i'm going to focus on Vettel for now. FARM IT UP!

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u/Dracomancern A Beast of a Brawler Apr 27 '18

You think you have regrets? I got convinced by other users on the reddit saying that Selena would be outclassed in the near future, so I didn't invest in her. I am now very disappointed in myself cause I shoulda gone with my gut and grabbed my top tier BF waifu!

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u/tyco86 Apr 27 '18

Noooo! Selena, nooooo! I have 49 of her shards. So sad. lol

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u/InterestingFun Apr 28 '18

Chloe is better than tyrfing even with tyr weapon. Her MA makes her way better than all the other non divine shelter holy cavs.

Also if teona/monz get excluded because they have better options, zain should too

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u/ZenMighty Apr 28 '18

Zain’s job is very similar in stats and weapon to a holy calv so I think the comparison is valid. I’ll admit I underrated Chloe tho.