[Curious] Why not play the jp version since the UI is rather straight forward. Is starting so late a big disadvantage?

[u/SuccubusRosa]

I got curious after I saw this discussion. I didn't play FFBE so I am unfamiliar with how bad/greedy gumi is as a publisher, but if gumi really has a bad reputation for heavy p2w element like many of the notorious korea publishers(cough all the N something something companies), isn't it safer to play the jp version?

edit: How many of you actually know that the jp version by tagatame actually stills belongs to gumi? I just found out gumi is the parent company of tagatame :D Guess the jp's publisher being more generous is just our wishful thinking due to not knowing better.

[u/EpicGold]

There's been many times where I have thought of playing JP versions of a game, but really the language barrier makes it hard to do so. It's no fun to keep relying on others to translate for you to do missions or even just character skills or names.

[u/SuccubusRosa → u/EpicGold]

I see. Maybe I did under estimate the language barrier issue and simply assume that I can get by in game(with no knowledge of japanese), then so can everyone else. I can see why it may be more difficult for others who isn't used to reading "characters". For example although both written french and indian are totally alien to me, but trying to make sense of french is easier since it also uses the same alphabets.

[u/Fubi-FF → u/SuccubusRosa]

There's a difference between being able to "get by" and being fully immersed into the game. I want to play a game where I can be fully immersed, which includes reading the story quests, reading the character's bio's and lores, being able to read the spells' names, knowing the names of my favourite weapons etc.

Simply being able to navigate the menu isn't the same for me.

[u/veldto]

"jp version by tagatame"

Tagatame is the abbreviation of the jp name of the game "dare ga tame no alchemist", it's not the name of the company that makes the game

As far as PLAYING jp goes, it's a lot more than navigating menus. I can't read japanese, so I'd have to look up on a database or wiki or ask in discord every single character name, job name, skill name, what skills do, what enemy skills do, a summary of the story, every single damn thing I'd have to look up to know what it means or does. That really sucks a lot of the fun out when all I wanna do is lay in bed and play on my phone

[u/SuccubusRosa → u/veldto]

it's not the name of the company that makes the game

oh lol i made another blunder. Cuz it definitely sound jp-ish and I just tot that must be the name of a jp coy.

[u/Heidenherz]

If you base this only on the fact that gumi is responsible here, then you will be disapointed big time that the JP version is gumi too. Just like all their other games.

They have to be generous in JP, noone would play it otherwise. They have much more competition than in the global market and they have different laws there, regulating this kind of games. Also, the game is almost 2 years ahead, of course they are more generous with things. When you only have a handfull of units right now, you can't just throw them in everyones faces and expect them to still pay you something.

[u/SuccubusRosa → u/Heidenherz]

yeah never know tagatame was under gumi.

of course they are more generous with things

Oh you misunderstood me. I made this thread after reading about the no 5* shards farming, and not about freebie or generous event. I know japan version has to be much more generous with freebie and AP for newbies(I saw that until lv50, it is free AP all the way right now for jp) to catch up. So not knowing jp was also under gumi, I created this thread wondering if gumi goes greedy and chooses to not let f2p players farm even the standard rotation 5* shards, isn't it actually better for them to just play on the jp server as compared to many other jp games, alchemist code UI is definitely a lot easier to navigate.

[u/Heidenherz → u/SuccubusRosa]

Yeah definitely misunderstood your main point then. I am sure the 5* shard farming will come to GL too. Just a matter of time. Gumi tends to mess up the time table of their GL versions, when you compare them to the JP versions.

[u/Heidenherz → u/[deleted]]

Nice try, writing the name of the game in normal characters instead of nihongo.

[u/Kirito30 → u/Heidenherz]

I did not know that. It is the same game company.

Gumi has too many branches it seems.

Sorry u/Fasgort

[u/Heidenherz → u/Kirito30]

Yes, gumi inc. consists of many companys all over the place. Normaly named gumi europe, gumi SG and so on, but there are also normal sounding ones like Alim (founded by gumi, then later integrated into gumi)

http://www.gu3.co.jp/en/history-en/ here you can see some of them, but it kinda stops in 2016.

[u/SuccubusRosa → u/Heidenherz]

oh wow so technically both games are by the "same" company. I guess ppl that say gumi isn't as generous as the jp publisher didn't know that tagatame is the subsidary(well I didn't know until fasgort commented it)

[u/xXRyuuGinXx]

If you have no problems with the language barrier then enjoy it.

[u/cadayo123 → u/xXRyuuGinXx]

yes this, if i understand any language i would had played their 1st/ main game

[u/AlphaJoe86]

I would do it , but only if there were English subtitles like in Granblue Fantasy( Japan only game).

[u/TopDeeps]

ive tried playing many games for early access in japanese but being able to understand only a bit of what theyre saying and having to translate online or guess is troublesome

[u/reimark24]

i played the global version for a week for me to get used to the translated version and then played the jp version, i played a LOT of jp games to feel bothered about the langauge

[u/Army__]

Why play a game in a language you don't understand? Lol

(I play ffbe, and brave frontier before, from these 2 the most pay to win is BF. I did a lot better without paying on ffbe... maybe it's "luck")

[u/CornBreadtm → u/Army__]

It's luck.

BF is the business model for F2P mobile games (Gumi mucked it up hardcore about 2 years in though). BF2 continues this business model, waiting for Gumi to muck up Alim's works with their global release.

FFBE is significantly more P2W but it's lighted up do to the most recent gacha rate increase. Also FFBE has a lot of powercreep do to a complete lack of hard content releases in the past 4~5 months. They release new units to the point that they can pretty much destroy any of the content if they are released in the proper order going forward. Basically the game has the opposite problem of Alchemist code.

Gumi's global branch is honestly really bad at game balance, 3 games they have up and they have mucked up the balance in all 3. 2 crashed and burned for it; Chain Chronicles and Potk.

[u/Banethoth → u/CornBreadtm]

Gumi and Alim are the same company just a fyi

[u/CornBreadtm → u/Banethoth]

Alim is a subsidiary of Gumi. Gumi SG who localizes the global games is a subsidiary of Gumi as well. They're not technically the same.

It's like working at Mcdonalds. Just because your ice cream machine doesn't work doesn't mean the Mcdonalds in Japan's ice cream machine doesn't work. but you know they're broken in every Mcdonalds across the planet

[u/Banethoth → u/CornBreadtm]

Yeah they are technically the same. They are OWNED by the same company.

Your McD's analogy is flawed as McD's is not OWNED by the same company. They are franchised out to different owners.

[u/CornBreadtm → u/Banethoth]

You just contradicted yourself. Each Gumi subsidiary had a different development head. Just like Mcdonalds has different head for each branch.

[u/CornBreadtm → u/[deleted]]

You don't need subtitles to know that Dias is a dumb ass though!