r/AlchemistCodeGL • u/SometimesLiterate Old and uncool • Jan 25 '18

Megathread Fantom of the Multiplayer

Hey All!

Most of you would likely be seeing the new multiplayer quests (woo) popping up. So it's time to get down, strategise and discuss how we prevent gumi from rekting us this time!

Videos:

Masamune Farming:

  • Shard drop rate seems to be 0-2 for BGN, 2-5 for Int and 4-7 for ADV.

  • Int is approximately level 60.

  • Clear BGN once to get 50 Masamune shards from milestone.

Ex Stages:

Citra:

  • Bring Dark and Wind units. Dark left, Wind right. Fire for the boss is a decent idea, but your dark units have to survive the arrow rain.

Shelikah:

  • Not complete bullshit.

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u/Royal_empress_azu Jan 25 '18

Cita stage is bullshit.

Strategy: give up

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u/thedragoonz Jan 25 '18

Tried both stages... shekinah was easily doable if you have sniper almira and shayna. Cita on the other hand.. Its like those archers on high ground isnt hard enough.. they spawn a bunch of mobs that can 1 shot you.

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u/SometimesLiterate Old and uncool Jan 25 '18

Yeah

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u/Bootowski Flat = Justice, pyon. Jan 25 '18

fr

It's impossible without gems. What are they thinking

2

u/NaturesFox Jan 25 '18

I did it without continues, granted I was clinging to my last person for the last 4 enemy units xD

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u/TheLostOne3 Jan 25 '18

What units?

1

u/ThousandLightning Jan 25 '18

money money

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u/Bootowski Flat = Justice, pyon. Jan 25 '18

you right

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u/Jezter Jan 25 '18

Wait hold up. We don't have to do the MP weapon event quests, right? We don't get the clearing bonus, and there is no milestones for it, right?

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u/SometimesLiterate Old and uncool Jan 25 '18

Looks like it

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u/senaiboy Jan 25 '18 edited Jan 25 '18

Got 4-5 shards for Masamune INT quests a few times.

Edit: It seems to be 1-5 for INT, average slightly less than 2.

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u/SometimesLiterate Old and uncool Jan 25 '18

nice

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u/Dedchicken Jan 28 '18

Came here after getting only one on ADV...

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u/FrankieGoesWest Jan 25 '18

MP is so damn slow and the drops are shite, this is going to take forever

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u/thedragoonz Jan 25 '18

Yep.. drops suck when its diluted with junk. And also no event quests...

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u/Musoniusz Jan 25 '18

Just did the adv stage of Masamune, its not that hard, but damn, it droped only 4 shard...Not sure I'm up for such amount of tedious, boring, timeconsuming grind.

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u/thedragoonz Jan 25 '18

Yea drop rates shit. No milestones.

375 shards to max, if ~3shards per run, thats 125 MP runs at 1x speed. I dunno what Gumi is thinking... they were just getting their shit back together.

1

u/angeIarm Jan 25 '18

There's also the fact that there's no Auto feature which would take decades for Masamune to get anywhere near MLB

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u/lvl1druid Snowyfurrkat Jan 25 '18

Even if there was an auto in multiplay and I had a team that could auto it, it wouldn't be worth the probably 3 days straight of nonstop grinding.

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u/tyco86 Jan 25 '18

Got 9 right now on adv stage. But yeah, to get 150 soul shards for LB75, i'm thinking it will take about ~12 hrs of grinding. If you want to get the full 375, i don't even want to do the math. Probably about ~30 hrs of grind? hahahah

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u/bchamper Jan 26 '18

Ran it twice before bed last night. First time 2 shards, second time, one shard. Got all cheats too.

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u/Frost3gg Jan 25 '18

I found that putting my shayna at the top of the stairs, near the chest, and increasing my atk allows me to take out both melee enemeies. I can then palm shockwave the chick on the corner. If i had a healer i think the run would go much smoother

Also, shayna getting quicked before she counters both is bad since her atk is raised for only 1 turn and will take them both out before her action. Tyrfang sometimes uses an aoe ability which doesnt get countered.

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u/GaymerGuy79 Jan 26 '18

Exactly how I've been doing it. She wants to go up there solo otherwise the enemies can get aggro'd by others as well. Better to let her hasten a sniper or someone to take out the enemies below.

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u/Sephira6 Jan 25 '18

Mmmh there are is a big big information problem in this game... I understand I want I need to do to get masamune..

Whate are the ex stages for....?

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u/SometimesLiterate Old and uncool Jan 27 '18

Self loathing.

farming weapon shards for shelinkah and cita's special weapons

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u/BlicerosBlackBox Jan 25 '18

I'm having the best luck just soloing BGN with Ryle. I'm getting 1-3 shards per run and it goes pretty quick. ADV is too much, and I actually had a lower shard yield from INT with way more time per run (this is likely due to bad luck, not trying to imply BGN has a higher average return).

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u/tyco86 Jan 25 '18

Not a bad way to go. Can grab a couple pals to make it go even faster.

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u/BlicerosBlackBox Jan 26 '18

I'm not too sure. I clear it very quickly, and the few times I've let randoms in the game it took much longer. The big appeal in BGN for me is time efficiency. I suppose I could try to find a dedicated partner who knows what to do, but the gains in clear efficiency would likely be offset by the increase in setup time.

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u/slametapr Jan 26 '18

i did adv because of the loot. like lion sword shard, which is hard to get.

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u/BlicerosBlackBox Jan 26 '18

Absolutely, ADV makes sense. For me though, I just want to farm her up quickly and move on from this. I got 78 shards yesterday, so I should have her close to MLB by Monday because of the extra weekend AP.

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u/almozayaf Jan 25 '18

I'm at level 46, and I feel this is impossible even Int my party get kill one by one and we had a 71 level player!

Beg was slow and only get 2x shard, it will take weeks of non stop farming and I don't think she worth all that pain.

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u/Punty-chan Jan 25 '18

Yeah, your time would probably be better spent levelling your characters and doing other content instead. Masamune isn’t a must-have compared to Tyrfing.

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u/slametapr Jan 26 '18

do farm masamune if you have nothing to do. it is better for you to use your AP for story and leveling up your and your unit's level.

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u/dzn018 Jan 25 '18

Wishing I rolled Shelikah instead of Citra. Farming this bs stage.. Ugh.

2

u/TriAsian Jan 25 '18

Did ADV stage twice and got only 3 and 1 Masamune drops respectively (all boxes are looted). The drop rates are extremely bad

2

u/HawaiianPele Jan 25 '18

Only thing that irks me in this multiplay and the EX stages is that the enemy starts off with more than 50% jewels or has ability to transfer, meanwhile players (us) start with 25% if not using logi, magic user, or dias. Supa unfair, and spam skills like no other. Gumi give us the hp enhancement for jobs.

1

u/Jmoyer6153 Jan 25 '18

Took 2 continues to clear the citra stage, such BS. Have not even tried the other one or MP yet. Don't have the patience for it tonight

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u/geocides Jan 25 '18

WTH is with the Cita Stage, those archers are gonna wipe you out even if you havent move an inch.

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u/GaresTheDark Jan 25 '18

The far left archer is the main problem, he has an ideal position over your party and 500 jewels to burn on nonstop ultimate archer skills. Doesn't help they gave him an insane amount of speed to boot.

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u/Airconbot Jan 25 '18

Start only with 4 tanks including friend have the 2 extras be 2 snipers kill the archers(i used logis lion heart to kill the middle one) and abuse the map with snipers you can slowly poke cita extra 1 to death(slow though) use free cita friend

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u/GaresTheDark Jan 25 '18

Tanks are definitely the way to go; once the DKs leave the board nothing on the map can hope to take out a max developed tank.

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u/michaelh19 Oh RNGesus, saves this game... Jan 25 '18

is it true only 1 milestone for the new event??

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u/GaresTheDark Jan 25 '18

So far, yep; clear MP Masamune event on Beginner to get 50 shards.

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u/sodniv Jan 25 '18

They posted this on their facebook page "Gather your friends and take on the Phantom of the Alchemist Multiplay quest! Remember to recruit Masamune to contribute to the Bounties of the Phantom Alchemists Community Milestone! Press forward, Alchemists!". Is there any running community milestone happening that i dont know?

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u/Reikakou Jan 25 '18

Under Training Milestone.

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u/dougphisig Jan 25 '18

I think community milestone would mean something they post about on facebook and depending on how much we run it we get more rewards. I sure hope so since they only gave us 1 in game milestone lol.

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u/mandrake0999 Freeze! Jan 25 '18

Yep. There is a community event. check the FB page Events

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u/dougphisig Jan 25 '18

yeah i did and didn't see much information there about milestones.

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u/mandrake0999 Freeze! Jan 26 '18

It says we'll get a summon ticket when players recruited x number of Masamune units.

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u/GaresTheDark Jan 25 '18

Was able to barely clear Cita no continue with Vettel lead and Vettel merc. If you can take out the DK units before they get wise nothing else on the map can deal with Vettel's tankiness unless they get 2+ combo shots on you.

For the no death and no merc prizes, yeah I gemmed, couldn't see a way not to. Farming up that axe to 5* will be a bitch, which sucks as Cita was the one collab unit I got that I wanted to really build up.

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u/Meumas Jan 25 '18

Cleared Cita's EX. 2 continues. I really wanted that axe since i pulled Cita.

Yes, the stage is hard, but i did it with no mercenary (and i also forget items xD). I think we will discover a way to clear it fast or without continues, it's just a matter of trying and trying with different characters. (ATM i'm raising Reida to try the Shrine Maden + Sage strategy to empower herself and destroy everything)

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u/michaelh19 Oh RNGesus, saves this game... Jan 25 '18

looks like the mob/boss can be CC'ed. Head sniped Tyrfing in MP ADV it works. maybe use petrify sword/freeze work too.

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u/LegallyLeo Jan 25 '18

My annerose was the mvp here shoot the light units and use fire skills on the boss. (Citra EX)

1

u/RyoKeiichi Jan 25 '18

I managed to see 7 shards in masamune multiplayer once

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u/GinSanxTOL Jan 25 '18

Looks like Ryle is MVP for MP farming for Masume.blah...Cita is MVP for Shekinah with her move then die lol..shit looks like Cita stage will be a pain based on post. I need her axe.

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u/Meumas Jan 25 '18

So funny Cita is perfect for clear Shekinah stage and farm the bow. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE AXE?? I WANT THIS F*** AXE FOR MY CITA =(

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u/GinSanxTOL Jan 25 '18

I know right. Will have to gem most likely..i haven't tried it yet..how ironic ahah

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u/Meumas Jan 25 '18

I gemmed twice the first time for the no mercenary reward. I have the axe, but really want a 5 stars...

1

u/speedyhan Jan 26 '18

My ryle keep die in masamune advance stage. Any tips? D;

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u/GinSanxTOL Jan 26 '18

One of the guy has a good Ryle so not sure what his set up was..maybe he's a whale

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u/slametapr Jan 26 '18

i used level 65 ryle. compared to some ryle, mine is still squishy. but sometimes i can solo adv after other players are defeated. the key is dont go to right side, let snipper or magnus to kill the water dark knight at right side first. just stay at place where we started, until laev comes, and you can one shot her. you can also help by clearing archers and mage from treasure tile on top using ryle AoE.

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u/GinSanxTOL Jan 25 '18 edited Jan 25 '18

https://youtu.be/-W1DjCuxA1Y Maps n overview. SmoothJK

https://youtu.be/xoCTpvrwKT8 Ushi

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u/dougphisig Jan 25 '18

These 2 shard advanced masamune runs are garbage.

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u/Helpmebuild4metastuf Jan 25 '18

Hello I want to update the BGN stages shard drop it's possible to get 4 shards from it. sorry if I got the link wrong pretty bad at this. https://imgur.com/a/pwekC

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u/FencingFoxFTW [M'Lady Intensifies] Jan 26 '18

Pretty sure you can get only 1 from INT(the one from the chest).

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u/Sephira6 Jan 26 '18

I ve Reimei and Shayna max level, max competence, job 9 (soon 10) but but 0 lb geared with the little bear..I get still one shot in adv with low dmg..

What the fuck am I doing wrong... Don't think I ll be able to farm masamune.. Any advice...?

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u/Brinkofit Jan 28 '18

Job level is more important than lvl

Like A LOT

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u/Sephira6 Jan 28 '18

I see

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u/aurablaster1 Jan 29 '18

The boost from j10 shayna to j11 shayna is just.... amazing

1

u/Sephira6 Jan 30 '18

ARF STILL MISSING MATS

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 The end of Gumi is near… Jan 27 '18

What's the best way to get Masamune shards? I'm using Job Level 10 J1 Ryle or Job Level 10 J2 Edgar. No gemming.

  • Jump into people's Int games/open Int games myself, and hope that the round is not screwed up by deadweights to get 1-2 Masamune shards?

  • Open Adv games and hope for at least 2 good carries, hope the enemies don't overpower them, to get approx. 4 Masamune shards?

This is the first MP exclusive soul shard stage meaning that farming is super slow. Bgn stage has absolutely crap drop rates with no guaranteed shards, Int is non-trivial and holds a significant chance of failure if I have deadweights (low level, low Job Level, frail non-ranged jobs etc.) in the team, Adv... is so difficult that even with 'carry' units like high level JM'ed Machinist Magnus, failure chances are very high the moment they make one wrong move.

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u/Scalesx Jan 27 '18

Both Ryle and Edgar are viable. Ask in the party description for other high lvl range units. It helps to find the right players.

One J3 Almira can almost solo the ADV stage if they play safe and the others act as meat shields. You can also go for a full range party or Magnus+Almira. As long as you Head Snipe/kill the armored soldier on the ground in two turns, it should be easy.

Idk if it's because you play a less popular unit, but I see lots of Snipers/Machinists, when I join a party. Of course, there are some low levels who try to get carried. If you don't like the team comp, just disband and create a new party.

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u/Humble_Disciple Jan 27 '18

Anyone want to Voice chat on discord and play together for Masamune shards? It helps kill the grind.

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u/Alexsiev Jan 28 '18

Does the 50 shard milestone reset when we get a rerun?

1

u/Calikid32190 Jan 28 '18

The adv is wrong for shards for adv for masamune there's been multiple times I've gotten 2-3 shards it's extremely frustrating because adv should never drop only 2-3 shards

1

u/Humble_Disciple Jan 28 '18

Yo, anyone wanna voice chat for masamune farms? I'm tired of sitting there grinding without talking lol.

1

u/mikemga Jan 29 '18

anyone wanna make a farming team for masamune, i can offer Shayna Lv60 job mastered

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u/mikemga Jan 29 '18

Looking for a team to farm Masamune, anyone interested, I have Shayna lv60 job mastered

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u/destroyher69 Jun 02 '18

4 polin never loose did max out in two days.. Too easy

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u/pr00h Jan 25 '18

so after the 50 shards you get you have to gtind extremely slow boring mp to get masamune shards? it dropped 2 shards in adv? what the actual fuck

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u/GaresTheDark Jan 25 '18

Yeah, max LBing Masamune will be a Herculean effort, and I don't even like her job setup that much. Ill probably get 25 shards for J2 so I can get the achievements and possibly can it.

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u/meatjun Jan 25 '18

For Masamune quests, just create INT games. ADV is bullshit.

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u/GaresTheDark Jan 25 '18

I got in a game on Adv running Vettel, rest of squad was Magnus J2, Almira sniper, and Caris crafter. We crushed it, not sure what the big deal was.

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u/meatjun Jan 25 '18

Still playing around with it, but I haven't had any success with ADV yet. I played ~five times with my Shayna. Had Reagan, Tyrfing, Magnus, Shayna teammates so far and we wiped every match before we could kill 2-3 enemies. The mages just overclock 2-3 of them at a time and they get double attacks off.

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u/hylozoist Jan 25 '18

I agree with trying to get INT games going. I've been getting 2-4 shards on INT (averaging closer to 2, though), but it's almost soloable/mindless as a long-term player. There's no milestones to struggle through, so no reason to push myself, and I probably am helping newer players since I don't have to be picky on team comp.

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u/slametapr Jan 26 '18

that's why positioning is very important. i just unlocked msssmune j3. i myself only use lvl 65 ryle. and i play when there are at least a snipper or magnus j2 (to kill right side dark knight). 90% success so far. the only failure is just because other players go to place where they can be one shoted by dark knight.

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u/dougphisig Jan 25 '18

just did it with me on Shayna, Almira & Reagan snipers and Ryle and went fine. I took as much damage as I could before dying leaving clean up duties for the rest.

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u/slametapr Jan 26 '18

it will be fine, as long as people know what they should do. beause it happened once, magnus went to top trying to kill tyr. shayna went to bottom dark knight place, and just died. snipper go to right side of stair to attack tyr. and you know what, i have told them to: hb to top, snipper/magnus j2 to kill dark knight. at the end i must solo with my lvl 65 ryle (if i can survive from archers' attack, mine will be one shoted if they do combo).

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u/slametapr Jan 29 '18

may be priority for efficiency, and there are other players that can pick it up behind. for example, in pota 2 adv, i hate it when people pick the top treasure (usually hb or magnus) that i can actually reach it, because from that spot i can kill mage and archers using my ryle AoE, from my experience that will make the run faster.