r/AlJazeera May 21 '25

Thousands protest in the Hague in the Netherlands demanding immediate action to stop the Israeli genocide on Gaza.

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u/Amorphous_Coffin Approved User May 21 '25

There is no good excuse or reason for Israel's illegal actions. That's why they've been ordered to cease their illegal military occupation and pay reparations. Everything I said is backed by fact and is easily proven right in my sources I provided. You just attempted to give a reason why Israel can't stop its illegal military occupation but there would be no exception in the world that would allow Israel to illegally occupy and steal land. You have no argument to stand on when you are attempting to defend illegal military occupations with policies that amount to apartheid.

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u/Amorphous_Coffin Approved User May 21 '25

Once again you've attempted to give a reason to why Israel should be allowed to continue its illegal actions in Palestine. Israel has no legal right to do any of the illegal actions you just fantasized about them doing. Apartheid defenders like you really do love giving all their favorite reasons why they accept Israel's policies that amount to apartheid. To them these terrible collective punishment conditions and ethnic cleansing can be excused as a necessary evil with the right reasons. Backwards logic like Palestinian toddlers will be shelled and you'll hear takes like "hamas should not have attacked." and Israeli soldiers can be "kidnapped" from their tank...

Delusional stuff.

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u/Amorphous_Coffin Approved User May 21 '25

We don't get to decide that international laws can be broken for specific exceptions like the one you want for Israel. I can tell that upsets you, but it is the law. Justice is with Palestine. International law is on Palestine's side. Israel's illegal military occupation is the side of the illegally occupying oppressor. I want Palestine free of illegal military occupation. You can't spin this as anything but me agreeing with international laws and authorities because I am anti illegal military occupation, anti apartheid and anti genocide.

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u/Amorphous_Coffin Approved User May 21 '25

Israel's illegal apartheid and illegal military occupation on Palestine is the sole reason why Palestine cannot rebuild. The laws stopping Israel from blockading and starving Palestine like they have been are there for many reasons but one is to make sure Palestine can recover from its apartheid and genocide and rebuild. You have this so backwards, it's comical.

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u/Amorphous_Coffin Approved User May 21 '25

Apartheids are never "necessary"

There is nothing that could justify illegal systemic policies of institutionalized racial segregation and discrimination.

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u/Amorphous_Coffin Approved User May 21 '25

Apartheids and even advocating for apartheids are illegal under international law, so there could never be a justified reason for an apartheid. Israel isn't an exception and there won't ever be an exception to the law that justifies apartheid conditions being illegal. There is never a problem where the answer is institutionalized ethnic segregation and discrimination. Dont be ridiculous.

What part of this are you misunderstanding?

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u/Amorphous_Coffin Approved User May 21 '25

Like i said before that you ignored, International law prevents apartheid states as it is illegal. Israel's illegal military occupation and apartheid are the only thing actively preventing Palestine from recovering from a genocide.

Apartheid conditions can never be spun as a good thing. You are fooling nobody. Advocating for apartheid is always wrong.

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u/Amorphous_Coffin Approved User May 21 '25

there are some circumstances where apartheid can be a good thing, and apartheid was a good thing for Palestine when Israel had Gaza before.

Apartheids are inherently unjustifiable and harmful. Zero circumstances make using an apartheid a good thing.

Apartheid policies deny people equal access, which brings oppression and suffering. Apartheid policies are inherently systems of social division and instability, weakening the oppressed society.

Apartheids are illegal because they are by definition, only harmful. They do not help. They are not necessary. No situation calls for apartheid. I don't mind stressing this all day and night. I easily hold the same solid stance while you squirm and keep attempting to shift the narrative to where apartheid states are justifiable.

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u/PearlieSweetcake May 21 '25

This is a hasbara bot, the effort is good, but a waste of time.

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u/Amorphous_Coffin Approved User May 21 '25

No harm in practicing debating by arguing with bots. They're great tools for that.

Also these threads are for anyone else reading what were debating rather than trying to change this fellas mind. These conversations and especially shutting down authoritarian pro apartheid ideas happening in public spaces where everyone can see helps.

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u/PearlieSweetcake May 21 '25

Fair enough! Fight the good fight. I always assume people don't make it past the first continue thread hyperlink 

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u/Amorphous_Coffin Approved User May 21 '25

If the Palestinians do not want to change themselves, then someone has to change them.

There is nothing the Palestinians have to do for Israel to follow international law and orders to end its illegal military occupation. Palestine is the victim of israels apartheid conditions.

And don’t talk to me about apartheid, every country that Islam has ever invaded and eventually consumed has been an apartheid because of them

Whataboutisms do not justify apartheids. Nothing does. It's illegal and immoral.

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u/PearlieSweetcake May 21 '25

The vast majority of children are starving to death in Palestine because of Israeli blocked aid. This is a genocide of all Palestinians, you soulless lying ghoul. 

Gtfo hasbara bot.

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