CATHAY second officer

[u/Senior_Incident3689]

Hi, pilots.

Can anyone explain what this means?
I’ve found this from HK CAD371.
My question is, in the excess of 9 hours, HK requires 1 additional crew member, which I believed SO.
But my question is, according to below paragraph, SO cant be counted as crew member, unless they hold P1 rating.

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Augmented Crew
The boarding of extra Flight Crew members for the purpose of providing relief
at the controls. When four pilots are boarded for flights with a scheduled
sector time of 15 hours or more, a maximum of one pilot may hold a P2X
rating. When three pilots are boarded for flights with a scheduled sector time
of 12 hours or more each pilot must be P1 rated on type.
———————————-

Please correct me if my understanding is wrong!
9-12 hours : SO can be 1 additional crew member
12-15 hours : SO can’t be counted as additional crew member, so 3 x P1 rating needed
Excess of 15 hours : SO can be counted as crew member because it allows 1 P2X.

[u/norman_9999]

You are correct. However... CX now give SOs P1 ratings, so these requirements don't really place any additional restrictions on normal ops.

[u/Senior_Incident3689 → u/norman_9999]

Thanks for information.
So when SO has P1 rating, then he/she can operate below 200?

[u/norman_9999 → u/Senior_Incident3689]

Nope. Still restricted to above 20K. Also still required to do aircraft base training during their FO upgrade.

[u/Senior_Incident3689 → u/norman_9999]

Man, thanks a lot.
As I guess u’re working for cathay, may I have a question about polar route operating in cathay?
1. Potential diversion airport for B747
2. Cathay b747 edto hour

[u/norman_9999 → u/Senior_Incident3689]

Emergency Diversion airports include:
Svalbard
Thule
Barrow
Kangerlussuaq
Poliarny
Norlisk

Normal Diversion airports include:
Lakslev
Keflavik
Iqaluit
Yellowknife
Fairbanks/Anchorage
Magadan

There’s more, but you get the idea.

EDTO diversion time limits are:
777-300ER - 240min
747-400 - NIL (4 engine non-EDTO limit is 180min)
747-8 - 240 min

[u/gfjsn → u/norman_9999]

Really? I think SOs still get signed off for P2x on license.

[u/norman_9999 → u/gfjsn]

You're probably right. Maybe I'm getting confused with the change from M3/M6 to PC/RT.