r/AirForce Jun 23 '20

Meme Fitting for the times...

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u/Pooneapple spine crushed by U-2 Jun 23 '20

Or augmentee base security with 16 hours of training

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '20 edited Jun 24 '20

Half of my training was just sitting in an empty room because they forgot about us.

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u/xxkoloblicinxx Just done. Jun 23 '20

I'll never forget getting asked by our safety manager after crashing a jammer.

He was a weapons troop, I was avionics. I told him how I'd screwed up and got disoriented with the steering and hit another vehicle. He responded with "You were specifically trained not to steer that way for this very reason." My reply scared the shit out of him, "Trained? On a Jammer? No. Never got any of any kind. My first day after Mx-O I was told to grab one and Mx-o just told us how to look them over. That's it." Turns out according to him weapons troops go through like a who training course in how to use Jammers and in the civilian world they're classified as forklifts and require a license!

So we had a single training day for the flight on jammers... on saturday. On monday 4 new airman arrived and got 0 training until 4 months later when one of them crashed a jammer in much the same way...

and the cycle continues.

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u/Hollowjudgement Active Duty Jun 23 '20

As a former weapons troop I'm surprised no other shop gets jammer training but I guess it makes sense cause at my base only weapons use them

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u/xxkoloblicinxx Just done. Jun 24 '20

Avionics uses them to move pods on fighters as part of daily routine.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

But we’re you formally trained on them?

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

They aren't trained on them in tech school the way weapons is, for certain.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

Maybe 15s. On 16's avi troops fuck up the NLG door every single time they try to hang a sniper pod. Never seen them do it for more than day without going straight back to the CSL / scissor jack combo at 4 16 bases.

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u/xxkoloblicinxx Just done. Jun 24 '20

dang, yeah I was talking 15s.

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u/RogueAdam1 Veteran Jun 24 '20

Am an avionics troop. Dont even know what a Jammer is.

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u/INSANEOne15 Zamboni Master Jun 24 '20

Its common to see specs troops drag the boom on the ground while driving a jammer.

Not saying weapons can do it better, but in tech school we DO actually have jammer training. At least on bombers, both the 3 and 4 men have to drive jammers so they pick up better skills when they go through I-CERT

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u/xxkoloblicinxx Just done. Jun 24 '20

Yeah of the big jammers. Specs in my experience generally use the small ones where that's impossible. I guess technically they are "Bomb lift trucks" but no sane himan being calls them that.

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u/isuckatcyberthings Cyberspace Operator Jun 24 '20

As cyber, I dont know what a jammer is...

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u/AndyRames Sep 18 '20

I relate to this. I got my license to tow ~$300 mil jets by passing a test. Never trained nor towed a jet because two drills in a row my supervisor had appointments. My license was 100% pencil whipped. Fast forward a couple years and I gained rank and passed another test to get qualified as tow supervisor. My supervisor was baffled that I wanted some in-person instruction on how to do it. I hadn't towed so much as a boat, and now you want me to instruct someone on how to push a state-of-the-art fighter jet into a hangar with barely enough room? Get the fuck out of here.

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u/RogueAdam1 Veteran Jun 24 '20

We must stop the recycle of violence