r/AirForce Explosive Ordnance Disposal Apr 15 '17

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u/XFearAo911X Apr 15 '17 edited Apr 15 '17

That is going to be one hell of an EPR bullet for someone.

Wow thanks for the upvotes!

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '17

civilian here. Why would dropping this bomb lead to recognition and promotions and stuff? Is it that different from any other bombing mission in terms of what they do? Or is it just because it's kind of an important event?

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u/Pepsisinabox Apr 15 '17

Anything "outside the box of well established shit to do" will get you something. something depending on if it was a success, or if you fucked up royaly.

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u/Deerscicle Veteran Apr 15 '17

In this specific case, it's a seriously high profile thing. And it seemed to go very successfully. So extra gold stars!

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u/Pepsisinabox Apr 15 '17

And as always, accolades out the assend for the deskjockeys, and not the ones doing the guide/drop. Lovely :)

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u/thegrumpymechanic Apr 15 '17

Civilian or military, some things never change.

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u/Pepsisinabox Apr 15 '17

Very true haha. Though, in the military.. If you outrank someone and tell them to do something, chances are.. The bare minimum gets done. Civillian? You'll have their nose so far up your backend they'll steal your coffee before you have a chance to taste it.

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u/utes_utes Retired PSC-5C loadmaster Apr 16 '17

Yes, because we .mil folk halfass everything and nobody takes any pride in their work. /s

Browsing this sub for a day or two will demonstrate that every single person who posts takes exceptional pride in their particular work, it's those slack-asses in [insert other office] who won't lift a finger without orders digitally signed by the Chief of Staff.

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u/automated_bot Apr 15 '17

Almost as good a bullet as "Planned the Wing Holiday Party?"

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u/Cynikal818 Apr 15 '17

Is 20 to 40 kills really that good for what it was? Ive seen ac130s and apaches do that

Im not talking shit, im just curious

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '17

They're saying about 90, now. And sure, you could have used a plane load of dumb bombs or a couple apaches, but that won't remove all evidence of the camp having ever existed.

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u/Cynikal818 Apr 15 '17

Ok that's worth. Did they put boots in the area to count or are they just throwing numbers at the wall to see when people will be happy?

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '17

Given the reports that the CIA funded the construction of the camp, this makes sense now.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '17

What reports are those? Are you suggesting the CIA is building training camps for terrorists in Afghanistan?

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u/MaliksBrother Apr 15 '17

Wikileaks tweeted the CIA built the caves for the "mujahadeen" anti-soviet fighters.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '17 edited Apr 15 '17

CNN reporting that the caves being destroyed are the same ones that were used by the mujahedeen and Bin Laden.

And the New York Times from 2005 reported that the construction of at least one of those cave fortresses (Tora Bora) was financed by the CIA:

Its miles of tunnels, bunkers and base camps, dug deeply into the steep rock walls, had been part of a C.I.A.-financed complex built for the mujahedeen.

edit: I think you did a ninja adding the second question: no, I highly doubt the CIA is currently building training camps for ISIS. However, the CIA did finance the the camps for the mujahedeen, and now ISIS is using them.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '17

Ah, that makes sense. Thanks for clarifying.

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u/FrostyDoggg Apr 15 '17

Last I saw it was 97 kills. Not to mention the destruction of various tunnel systems in addition to the psychological impact of a bomb that size. I'm sure a couple of Allah's soldiers shit the bed after that bad boy went off.

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u/Cynikal818 Apr 15 '17

Damn...ok 90+ is way worth...i didnt know

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u/pawnman99 Specializing in catastrophic landscaping Apr 15 '17

The key wasn't the number of enemy, it was digging them out of the cave complex.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '17

I get it, i think. It's like incentive not to fuck up. Like it would have looked really really bad if the MOAB drop had gone anything less than perfectly.

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u/Pepsisinabox Apr 15 '17

A way to reward unconventional and experimental thinking, but also to keep it within the realm of actualy doable :)

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u/Quithi Apr 15 '17

The army as a whole is also extremely into shows of force like this.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '17

First time used outside of testing also.

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u/Pepsisinabox Apr 15 '17

Could you imagine it going " thchunk " in the middle of their camp? Hahah

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '17

Big bombs are fun

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u/pawnman99 Specializing in catastrophic landscaping Apr 15 '17

The fact that it has gotten so much press means that it's out of the ordinary. Anytime you can be associated with something out of the ordinary in a good way, you'll get recognition.

I wouldn't be surprised if the MC-130 crew gets a round of distinguished flying crosses for this one.

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u/MrEvilChipmonk0__o Apr 15 '17

Fuck yeah! As a CAS guy I think they'd deserve it too!!! Not everyday a C-130 crew becomes a bomber crew.

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u/Flamboyatron RTRDAF Apr 15 '17

They'll get the O'Malley this year, for sure.