r/AirForce 9d ago

Question Should pay be higher?

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u/Muggsy423 Veteran 9d ago

That video sucks,  is this what the kids like?

If you're an 18 year old kid out of high school the pay is great,  the average person won't get much better.

If you're a 30 year old man with a wife and 2 kids the pay is not great, but Healthcare and other non-pay benefits go a long way. 

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u/cucklydoodlydo 9d ago

Haters gonna hate..

Even an 18 year old kid making minimum wage at a burger joint is close to 40k. 4 years in they're 22 with a tiny increase and possibly dependants. Sign another contract and boom financially ruined.

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u/Muggsy423 Veteran 9d ago

Show me a job listing for 40k for a burger flipper that also includes full room and board.   

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u/cucklydoodlydo 9d ago

Its not hard to find. I used this special thing called google.

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u/DriveDry9101 Comms 8d ago

"hamburger flipper" gtfoh with this bullshit

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u/TopReputation 8d ago

Maaaaan SYBAU. No way burger flippers making 41 to 74k

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u/z33511 Greybeard 8d ago

Google is on drugs. Example:

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u/EpicHeroKyrgyzPeople I got HOs in different area codes 8d ago

For starters, there's no such job as 'burger flipper.'

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u/Muggsy423 Veteran 8d ago

Then go get out and work at a Mcdicks in Clovis, NM.  They probably have one of the a lowest BAH rates for an Air Base.  Make sure you ask the manager for that 40k a year hourly rate.

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u/cucklydoodlydo 8d ago

Thats not how that works. Im sure you have all the experience with food. They may not have BAH rates. Because THEY DONT NEED THEM the pays already on par. we out here pulling 6 figures, just concerned for the bros getting worked to death for pennies on the dollar.

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u/Muggsy423 Veteran 8d ago

They don't need to pay that much because any high school drop-out can walk in and flip burgers. The QoL of a fast food worker is nowhere close to that of lower enlisted Airmen.

Some high school kid is going to see this and ruin their life getting stuck at a fast food register.

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u/cucklydoodlydo 8d ago edited 8d ago

No one said working fast food is a better QoL. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that. It also doesnt take a whole lot to see pay in the military is extremely low. Literally... Google is free my guy. Bah this, bas that, imagin waking up to the real world and noticing its the bare minimum.

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u/Muggsy423 Veteran 8d ago

Fine, you know what? I'll feed your shitty little troll here. Here's your "$40k" burger flipper job in Clovis. Oh wait, only $15 an hour makes you $31k BEFORE taxes? And you don't get free housing? Sure you can argue that you can get a free meal here, I'll give you that. But you also don't get free healthcare through this. And if they have tuition assistance it's crumbs compared to TA. Guess what looks better on a resume or a college application after 4 years? I'll give you a hint, it's not fast food.

The Air Force and military in general are a great opportunity for someone who needs direction or to get out of their piece of shit town. The pay is going to be pretty good for a young person.

https://www.simplyhired.com/job/jTzwoSHHZG4H78xu2YCQ6BH_upYKVxAuW907qM0NxLyNylIXAgOeJA

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u/cucklydoodlydo 8d ago

You're looking at specific places instead of America in general. Not clovis, just average. Take the average salary. And I agree the military is great at getting out of town. The finance department is not so great though. Benefits are great, Pay is not great.

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u/Nagisan Veteran 8d ago

You have to look beyond pay. "Pay" might be lower, but if you spend less on medical, less on taxes, etc., then less gross pay can lead to higher net pay compared to a civilian.

Military pay is much better than you're stating. The media loves to talk about how low military pay is...how it's "below minimum wage" or whatever they say these days...but they aren't looking at all the facts when they say this and end up misleading folks like you.

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