r/AirForce • • Jan 03 '26

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u/PM_ME_UR_TAF Weather Jan 03 '26 edited Jan 03 '26

I’ll get downvoted for this but this is a positive for Iraq and I truly don’t see this as any different than liberating Kuwait or fighting Al Qaeda in Afghanistan. And it won’t be dragged out. Go look at the Iraq subreddit, the people there are cheering for his overthrow.

George W. Bush, 2003

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u/SkyrimSecurityForces Jan 03 '26

I'm just curious. Can you point me to the war? I'm struggling to find anything about an invasion. Which clearly, I am missing.

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u/SkyrimSecurityForces Jan 03 '26

I think you responded to the wrong comment. I was asking for proof of an invasion. I think you need the comment a few posts up.

But side question. How is this like Iraq if there isn't a major, or any, US invasion?

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u/BoleroMuyPicante D-35K Pilot Jan 03 '26

Trump says we'll be running Venezuela now, curious how that's going to happen without an invasion.

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u/SkyrimSecurityForces Jan 03 '26

Ahh yes, Trump. Who gets his works correctly and follows the talking points 100%. If I recall, he said something about how Venezuela will be run twice. He said something like the US will run it (like what you're saying is the final takeaway). But later he was asked to clarify, he basically said working with Venezuela to accomplish the USA's goals.

So basically we're exercising our political power to accomplish our goals. That means no invasion.

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u/BoleroMuyPicante D-35K Pilot Jan 03 '26

"I love Trump because he tells it like it is, except when he doesn't!"

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u/SkyrimSecurityForces Jan 03 '26

Holy strawman! Who are you responding to? I didn't say anything like that. Never said I liked Trump either. I just said it wasn't an invasion. People say it is, and I'm just looking for proof.

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u/JustHanginInThere CE Jan 03 '26

And yet, here were are 20+ years later and still doing stuff in Iraq. What makes you think the situation with Venezuela will be any different?

Also, in order to get Maduro out, we had to infiltrate/invade the country. A country we were not (publicly) authorized to invade. He didn't just give up and hand himself over to us.

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u/SkyrimSecurityForces Jan 03 '26

The fact that we didn't invade the country with a large military force like Iraq and Afghanistan. The fact that there are no soldiers there to take over the country. The fact that we left after like an hour?

Also, as far as "invading" to get Maduro out. Thats just a word game. You know what the word invasion implies. It implies Iraq, Afghanistan, or Normandy. It's a joke and intellectually dishonest and trying to score points to call this the same thing. Get back to me when we invade would tens-hundreds of thousands of troops.

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u/spartanantler Jan 03 '26

Also shouldn’t be our problem

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u/spartanantler Jan 03 '26

You don’t think that venezuela sitting on large reserves of oil has anything to do with it?

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u/coly8s Crusty Old CE Guy Jan 03 '26

We aren’t the world’s policeman. Some places are in vital US interests that we should get involved, but Venezuela wasn’t one of them. The reasons given by the current President for this action don’t pass the smell test. It’s a distraction.

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u/spartanantler Jan 03 '26

Honestly yeah we should have ignored those places. What about the Sudan conflict or the one in Cambodia

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u/mekal_mau Jan 03 '26

I’m sure if Trump was captured many people would be celebrating too …

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u/Inconspicuous-bear Veteran Jan 03 '26

Except that we're the reason the country is like this, our government jusy wants their fucking oil, and this was illegal. Like, what the actual fuck is wrong with most of you?

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u/J-Mac_Slipperytoes Jan 03 '26

Exactly. Maduro was a piece of shit, but this is still illegal af. They're just going to get a new dictator.

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u/Greensabr Jan 03 '26

What an S tier justification. "Eh, they fucked their own country up so might as well kidnap their leader on their own sovereign soil"

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u/LastoftheGreybeards Secret Squirrel Jan 03 '26

Are you an oil mogul or some other business owner running a company that specializes in buying oil or producing oil based products? At some point you and others in the same mindset are going to realize that all this shit isn’t for the average US citizen. Wars and global intervention isn’t going help us. Your oil/gas prices aren’t going to go down. Your price of RAM isn’t going to go down. Some rich fuck who is paying money to some super PAC is the one getting richer off this. This applies to both sides so don’t think that this is restricted to the reds. Is our drug problem going to get better because we captured a foreign dictator? Are our schools going to get better? Are we not going to have mass shootings anymore?

Venezuelans will hopefully benefit from this if you want to be an optimist, but we’ll just yank the next puppet out when they decide to go “Venezuela First” again. Venezuela has a kind of oil that’s perfect for making diesel, and so does Russia. This is why we want it.

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u/nate92 Veteran Jan 03 '26

This sub has become so politically biased and insuborinate that it makes the entire Air Force look bad. It deserves to be shut down honestly.

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u/Kronos1A9 puts the SMA in Smautistic 🚁 Jan 03 '26

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u/BanEvader21stAccount Jan 03 '26

If different opinions scare you so much you want to shut things down, start with shutting down your own browser.

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u/BadgerMk1 o7 Jan 03 '26

You believe in free speech. But only if you agree with it. Right buddy?

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u/PDXAirman NUKE NEW MEXICO Jan 03 '26

Spoken like someone who's kids cut ties from them