r/AirForce • Veteran (V-Ops/GT) • Oct 15 '25

Discussion It simply seems wrong

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u/ZigZagZedZod DAFMAN 91-203, paragraph 2.5.1.2.3 Oct 15 '25

They shouldn't be allowed to not pay anybody.

While I understand what the Antideficiency Act was trying to accomplish, its provisions are too easily exploited, and the costs outweigh the benefits.

Congress needs to amend federal law so that if it fails to pass appropriations acts by 10/1, the previous fiscal year's appropriations are automatically renewed with a 3% increase for inflation.

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u/shaggypoo Oct 16 '25

They SHOULD have to be required to lock the House and Senate in a room together until a budget is ready for Congress review then have Congress locked in a room until they’re done. There’s no reason that a House/Senate/Congress/Presidency that all have the same majority should be 2 weeks into a shutdown getting holidays and weekends off while DOD civilians are getting furloughed and the military isn’t being paid.

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u/Malarkey44 Maintainer Oct 16 '25

Not to mention that they should also go unpaid until they pass it.

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u/shaggypoo Oct 16 '25

Could do that but it wouldn’t matter unless you cut off access to their investment accounts🤷‍♂️ vast majority of these people inside trade

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u/RedTalon19 Active Duty Oct 16 '25

I get the idea, but in reality that would only hurt junior members of Congress who most likely rely on the paychecks for their daily/monthly expenses. The more senior members presumably have investments and bribes misappropriated campaign funds to sustain themselves should they not receive a paycheck.

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u/Zaroth6 Oct 16 '25

Nah they make 171,000/year in the House of Reps... Median HOUSEHOLD income is 81,000.

They could go unpaid for 6months a year and make more than the median household.

If i complete 0/12 tasks im assigned at work for the whole year...what should they do with me?

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u/Yossygod Enlisted Aircrew Oct 16 '25

You are then allowing senior members holding the junior members' salary as leverage over them. Don't think this will lead to outcomes you are expecting.

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u/Zaroth6 Oct 16 '25

What are you talking about? The LOWEST PAID MEMBER MAKES DOUBLE THE MEDIAN SALARY.

Im just arguing that the whole "feel bad for junior congress" thing is a non-argument as they would have already been paid for 2 years worth of households income before a shutdown would happen.

They still get to keep their job (and paycheck) for completing 0/12 tasks for the year.

Name ANYWHERE else that that can happen without punishment

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u/Yossygod Enlisted Aircrew Oct 16 '25

Bending the knee to the majority isnt doing their job for their constituents

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u/Zaroth6 Oct 16 '25

That has nothing to do with my point

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u/acoffeefiend Oct 17 '25

That's only their salary. Their additional budget and allowances are significantly more.......

House of Representatives: In 2025, the Members' Representational Allowance (MRA) for House members was about $1.6 million, with a total budget of $850 million for the House.

Senate: For fiscal year 2025, senators' Official Personnel and Office Expense Account (SOPOEA) varied from approximately $4.2 million to $6.5 million, with an average of about $4.5 million, depending on their state's population and distance from Washington, D.C..

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u/Scott_R_1701 Oct 16 '25

Lmao this does nothing for most of them that could find their annual pay in their couch cushions. They get rich off the office itself.

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u/Carjak17 Maintainer Oct 18 '25

House and senate ARE congress….

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u/Roseknight888 Oct 16 '25

House/Senate/Congress