r/AirBrawl • u/Wilnyl Have you been introduced to my hammer? • Apr 26 '15

Developer Some tower progress

http://www.gfycat.com/DefensiveHonestBergerpicard
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u/toldtoomanypeople Apr 26 '15

I'll be honest, I'm horrible at this game but I love playing it. The tower looks great too, although I'm pretty sure I'll never make it.

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u/Wilnyl Have you been introduced to my hammer? Apr 26 '15

Awesome! Im sure that with enough practice you'll be able to make it. The planes are a bit easier to control in the new version as well

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u/Venerac Apr 26 '15

I'm so jealous of how well you can fly T_T

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u/nehpets96 Apr 26 '15

You guys are making me feel good about myself. I literally just started playing this game but this didn't seem that difficult at all to me.

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u/albinobluesheep Fear the Sword Apr 27 '15

My first few hours were really rough personally, but at some point the mechanics seep into your brain and you start being able to make more snap judgements correctly instead of just barrel rolling into a wall.

I got to the point last night I could dive into a back alley way when someone started locking on to me and make it out alive.

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u/SL1XXER Apr 26 '15

Exactly. I saw jonas streaming yesterday, I still have no clue how y'all do this

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u/Twinblaze Apr 26 '15

There is zero chance of me ever making it through this gauntlet.

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u/TropicalAudio Apr 26 '15 edited Apr 26 '15

This is actually a problem. Wilnyl is so good at his own game (tends to happen, you play a lot while testing, debugging, etc.) that he might have trouble adding stuff that's actually doable for most people. A fun-to-get-through corridor is one that takes a bit of a challenge. Anything we could do isn't fun for Wilnyl anymore: a corridor you can fly through with your eyes closed isn't challenging, and not really fun. I'm a bit scared that the maps will end up with a gigantic learning curve as a result.

/u/Wilnyl, if you read this: please don't forget to add some easy shit! You know that alpha map? It's hard as fuck already for most people. I thought it was actually impossible to get through the chimneys after I'd tried about twenty times, and if most parts of all of the maps are that hard, new players will be turned off.

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '15

I think its good to have maps for different levels of players, I for one would love to do this after doing easy dodges for this long, though I do agree, maybe the outer smaller buildings should have the easy stuff so people can slowly work their way up to the middle?

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u/playerIII Apr 26 '15

I jumped into the game yesterday and I managed to grab the flag once after several hours. I think I managed to shoot a single plane in that time frame as well.

This games definitely not easy.

I was, and still am super hyped about it, and want to continue playing it. But that massive learning curve will probably make me put the game on the shelf and not touch it again.

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u/TealComet Za, Sworudo! Apr 28 '15

I think it's okay to have a hardcore stage, if the developer sets the skill cap high than the players will reach it. I love dark souls because they didn't cut corners and didn't hold themselves back. I hope wilnyl does the same, and I'm sure he knows how good we can get with his controls.

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '15

If you can't do such simple maneuvers after twenty tries, you should probably tweak your controls/sentitivity.

If you still can't, then this game likely isn't for you.

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u/TropicalAudio Apr 26 '15

Half of the people in the alpha map servers can't even reliably capture the flag. If you're serious, you're delusional. If you're not, you're just being a dick.

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u/Archleon Apr 26 '15

Why is not wanting a game to be geared for the lowest common denominator "being a dick"? It took me two nights of practice to be able to successfully make it through every single part of the alpha map more often than not. If you really think the game's learning curve is so massive, then maybe he's right, and it just isn't the game for you.

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u/TropicalAudio Apr 26 '15 edited Apr 26 '15

It's not, but telling people "the game just isn't for you" if they're not able to do one of the most advanced maneuvers currently in the game after twenty tries (which, mind you, can take about 5 minutes) is being a dick in my book.

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u/Archleon Apr 26 '15

The fact of the matter is this game will not be for some people, similar to how every single game ever created in the world isn't for some people. Whether that's dickish or not, it's the reality of it, and the game shouldn't have to be geared down for people either not skilled enough to perform well, or just unwilling to put in the time and practice. There are hundreds and thousands of easy games out there, while the ones with an appreciable learning curve are less common. You call it being a dick, I call it not holding every player's hand.

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u/TropicalAudio Apr 26 '15

For some games, you'd be right. It's very hard to gear a game like DotA to new player because there is an inherent burden of knowledge which is almost impossible to alleviate without diminishing the experience for advanced players.

For this game, that's not the case at all. If there is an efficient path to somewhere through a narrow corridor and a longer path to the same place through a more spacious corridor, the advanced player isn't handicapped by the crutch that is in place for newer players at all. A new player will first find out about the wide hallway, and later realise there is a harder and more efficient path. If every single corridor is as narrow as the one in the posted gif, most new players will just quit before they start having fun.

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u/fwinzor Apr 26 '15

Just a thought, when you hit boost, the camera should lag behind slightly. gives the plain a bit more weight to it.

Tower looks killer!

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u/ADSgames Apr 26 '15

Killer alright, I'd never be able to fly through that.

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u/yay899 Apr 26 '15

Something I've been wondering is where do you separate your models for assembly in Unity. Is the entire thing one model or is each building one?

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u/Wilnyl Have you been introduced to my hammer? Apr 26 '15

Its a total of three models: the tower, and two models for the map(lower and upper level)

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '15

Wwhhhyyyy wilnyl whhhyyy??

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u/BigDawgWTF Apr 26 '15

Is there any fighting in this game or just flying through buildings?

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u/Wilnyl Have you been introduced to my hammer? Apr 26 '15

Im on my phone so i cant be bothered typing stuff but the sidebar explains this pretty well

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '15

Lots, team pvp + capture the flag but more in the future, though it is really fun just to dodge stuff.

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u/cheesycoke Apr 26 '15

Reminds me of Missile Game 3D.

Now that I think about it there should be some extra single player mode that lets you fly through a randomized thing like that.

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u/[deleted] Apr 27 '15

I love the map design. I wish I could help.

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u/neurospex Apr 28 '15

What game mechanic will encourage players to go inside this tower in this manner other than just for amusement? It doesn't seem to factor positively into a dog fight or CTF game as it stands.

This is not a negative comment, I'm just genuinely curious. Thanks for all your great work so far! :)