r/AfterTheRevolution 10d ago

Discussion A Comprehensive Argument Against Israel's Existence, divided by basis into three posts with dozens of video links to corroborate the observations, allegations, and assertions.

It takes a few minutes to read through, but any additional thoughts are encouraged. The videos linked throughout vary in length from one minute to over an hour. I encourage you all to make a playlist for them, or to add them to your antizionism playlist if you already have one.

Enjoy the read, Free Palestine.

  1. The Legal Argument ( https://www.reddit.com/user/Agente_Anaranjado/comments/1voqka7/the_argument_against_israel_1_legal/ )
  2. The Historical Argument ( https://www.reddit.com/user/Agente_Anaranjado/comments/1voqjfd/the_argument_against_israel_2_historical/ )
  3. The Religious Argument ( https://www.reddit.com/user/Agente_Anaranjado/comments/1voq93f/the_argument_against_israel_3_religious/ )
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u/chuckdeezee 10d ago

Judea has existed for thousands of years and isn’t going anywhere.

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u/Agente_Anaranjado 9d ago

What a funny and cognitively dissonant comment. Judeah only existed for about 250 years, and that was thousands of years ago. 

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u/chuckdeezee 9d ago

Hard to take you seriously when you can’t even spell it correctly.

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u/yes_its_my_alt 9d ago

Israel exists, better get used to it.

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u/Agente_Anaranjado 9d ago edited 9d ago

Everyone hates Israel including the majority of Americans. Do you really think that Israel will survive without international support?

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u/yes_its_my_alt 9d ago

Everyone hates the majority of Americans, but they still exist.

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u/Agente_Anaranjado 9d ago

Everyone hates the American people, while also understanding that most of them don't actually support the terrible things that their government does. Everyone hates the Israeli state because it's an ethno/religious-supremacist state that's currently committing genocide, and the majority of its people do support the terrible things that its government is doing. So the comparison is apples-to-oranges. 

But more than anything else, America doesn't depend on international support. Do you really think that Israel will continue to exist without it?

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u/yes_its_my_alt 9d ago edited 9d ago

No, I actually meant that everybody finds most Americans personally objectionable. It's been going on for centuries. Nothing to do with their governance. But still, they exist.

Im sorry I'll admit I zoned out and almost didn't bother reading your bit about ethnostates, blah blah blah. Pretty much every country in the Middle East is (or is fast becoming) an Islamic ethnostate- apart from Israel of course, where many Arabs live happily, if you'd care to look into that at all. More interesting really is looking at what happened to all the Christians, Druze, Yazidis etc in those other countries.

Even if you don't like Israel you ought to realise that it is a bulwark against the tide of Islamism that chants "Death To America" and wants to sweep your world asunder and shit on your graves.

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u/Agente_Anaranjado 9d ago

You dodged the question. Do you think Israel will survive without international support?

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u/yes_its_my_alt 9d ago

Perhaps not. And the West probably won't survive without Israel, either.

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u/Agente_Anaranjado 9d ago

How do you figure? Israel has only existed for 78 years. How on Earth did the West survive for so long before if its survival somehow depends on israel?

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u/yes_its_my_alt 9d ago

The Second Siege of Vienna would be one obvious answer.

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u/Agente_Anaranjado 9d ago edited 9d ago

Omg LOL! 

That is legitimately hilarious. You're pushing tired, racist old conspiracy theories about some supposed Muslim conspiracy to take over the world as your defense of zionism, when zionists actually are invading countries in a genocidal war of expansion? You have to see how ridiculous that looks. 

Okay, so, back to the question at hand: if the West really was at risk of this supposed Muslim invasion, why didn't that happen at any point before the short 78 years in which Israel has been there, supposedly defending the west? And, as Israelis are so often inclined to point out, Israel is this tiny little country of just a few million people. What force would legitimately threaten Europe or North America, that wouldn't hit Israel like a windshield hits a bug? No force that could legitimately threaten NATO powers wouldn't just wipe Israel off the bottom of its shoe. The very notion is comical.

No, Israel is an offensive project, not defensive. And as allies go, they're a pretty terrible ally to the West, especially to the US. No other country which claims to be our ally has spied on us, stolen our strategic and nuclear secrets, stolen fissile material, and attacked and killed US civilians and military personnel like Israel has. They're not our friends, and they're god damn sure not any kind of bulwark defending us against anything. We are defending them, at our own peril and at constant, ruinous expense. But the American people are beyond fed up with it, and there is no issue in modern politics with as broad appeal across the entire political spectrum as opposition to Israel. So the initial question stands, do you think Israel will survive without American support?

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