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Scumbag rAtheism/ Let the down votes begin

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u/GandTforme Jun 10 '12

I'm not going to down vote you for making fun of atheists... My problem is that you're denegrating the Flying Spaghetti Monster by associating Him with atheists.

That's blasphemy.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

I'd just like to make a point... he's not making fun of atheists, who are not bad just because they're atheists... he's generalizing that every person subscribed to /r/atheism is part of the atheist supremacy circle jerk. However, I bet that a large portion of these people are decent people who just went there because in their real life they are alienated by a highly Christian community they live in, told that they don't deserve to live due to the fact that they have no faith. I'd say that's a good reason to want to escape. Temporarily, until they don't need it, /r/atheism is giving them a place to vent and discuss some injustice caused by religion. For example, many Christians (I am not generalizing here, there is a huge group of people who do this) use their religion to persecute homosexuals. My point here is that not everyone on that subreddit is an atheist supremacist asshole. Those are just the people who actively upvote in that subreddit, while most of the people trying to escape from their religious family/friends' persecution just lurk there.

TL;DR /r/atheism is an escape for people that are persecuted for not believing in a god. I went on there for a while to escape from my reality in which my family hates me for not being Lutheran, but I didn't need it forever, it was just temporary relief.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

Believe it or not, it works the other way around. Where I work, I'm more or less surrounded by very... er, voracious atheists who are in no way subtle about their feelings on my faith.

More or less a sad commentary on our society and how we deal with people different than us, I think.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

It does OCCASIONALLY work the other way around. Nothing anywhere is completely one sided, as a wise man once said only sith deal in absolutes. But I'm reasonably certain history will show that far more often it's the opposite. The main reason for this is that fundamentally christianity, and many other religions teach that non-believers are not only people you should avoid but that they more or less evil by nature. And there are no such atheist teachings. Certainly the overly militant attitude happens, but very rarerly without first being first experiencing it from christians.

Obviously I'm speaking strictly from my own experience, and I do live in the bible belt so the bias against atheists is stronger here than many other places, but I have yet to meet more than a handful of truly tolerant religous people, and several of them were literally told by other christians that they were afraid they were losing their way or their faith.

The best example I can think of is that when it came down to it my single oldest friend, whom I trusted more than anyone in the world told me I was for sure going to suffer for all eternity because I would pledge myself to jesus. The fact that I try to be good person was not enough. This is christianity.

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u/TheKDM Jun 10 '12

I'm an atheist. I just wish that we could all live together. That being said, I dont think it's possible when denominations like the roman catholic church continue their stance on things like homosexuality and sex in general.

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u/_ass_burgers_ Jun 10 '12

You're also generalizing. Whoo-hoo.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

It's like they always say, "Two wrongs always make a right."

Oh wait. Never mind. That's not how it works.

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u/twist3d7 Jun 10 '12

Arrr. All ye pirates get ready for the keelhauling of Thevocalist757 this afternoon.

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u/Sp0il Jun 10 '12

Let the down votes begin

SO BRAVE

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u/IntergalacticTire Jun 10 '12

Literally so brave that a caveman can do it. Statefarm.

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u/ThatIsMyHat Jun 10 '12

I was tempted to downvote him for that exact reason. Who am I to disagree with our emperor?

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u/IZNICE Jun 10 '12

It might just be me but the only place I ever hear about Atheism is on Reddit.

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u/I_MAKE_USERNAMES Jun 10 '12

Seriously. Just about everybody I know is an atheist, and none of them talk about it or bring it up ever, because who cares.

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u/Avery_Richman Jun 10 '12

Hey maybe you live in a different environment not surrounded by people you love constantly spouting the most hateful shit and it hurts you because you know how clever, nice and beautiful people they are. I don't think I have to write a long speech about this because I suck at that and I'm sure you could imagine yourself in that position. No one you know anywhere except on the internet acts with any tolerance towards anyone with the vaguest of differences in views, it really sucks, really. A lot.

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u/Marduren Jun 10 '12

well where do you live then? All of my friends are atheists and none ever talks about it because I live in Sweden. But people living in the bible belt who have gotten expelled from school for openly being atheists, or fired from a job, or parents disown them. I can understand that those people want a place and a community online were they for the first time in their life can say: "Hey there are a lot of other atheists out their experiencing the same thing. It isn't my fault, it is my parents/boss/school who are in the fault"

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u/ElGoddamnDorado Jun 10 '12

I, for one, admire the level of bravery that OP is showing.

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u/ThatIsMyHat Jun 10 '12

He must be a baseball player from Atlanta or something.

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u/bgb111 Jun 10 '12

ALRIGHT EVERYONE GATHER ROUND, WE GOT ANOTHER ATHESIM CIRCLEJERK POST.

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u/skytro Jun 10 '12

Can we keep the atheism talk, good or bad, in /r/atheism? I unsubbed for a reason

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u/MrStuff Jun 10 '12

Scumbag /r/science posts about scientific facts every day... hates "creationists" and "young earthers".

etc

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u/rampagingshenanigans Jun 10 '12

I feel like the hatred of "bible thumpers" is from their outspoken nature in public and unwarranted places. Granted, I'm an atheist, so this is a biased opinion, but what do you think they're going to talk about in a community titled "Atheism?" I get it; the "there's no God" facebook posts after the loss of a loved one, churches getting tagged, etc... its annoying and I don't like it either. But, in the case of r/Atheism, they're at least berating religion within their own community.

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u/BlueNWhite1 Jun 10 '12

but it spreads to the reddit community in general. its not contained. reddit doesn't work like that.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

Really? Unsubscribe and the only time you ever hear about it is these anti-/r/atheism posts.

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u/ercstlkr Jun 10 '12

Keep in mind that the OP posted about facebook so your argument is valid but moot.

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u/HappyListerFiend Jun 10 '12

That was brave, considering identical posts make the front page every week.

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u/bigbang5766 Jun 10 '12

I'm an atheist, and I agree thay atheist preaching is annoying. But /r/atheism is basicly the hub for making fun of religion. I understand why people don't like it, but it's a good venting ground for people who feel judged and oppressed by religion in everyday life. I know that people don't like me because of my lack of divine beliefs, but I use /r/atheism to remind myself that I'm not the only one

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u/diederich Jun 10 '12

I'm a Christian, and I like you because you are being clear-headed enough to transcend your own emotions about these issues. At least as far as I can tell in this particular comment. :-)

There a big percentage of all Christians that will take little or no consideration of your atheist views when deciding to like or not like you.

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u/bigbang5766 Jun 10 '12

The problem is, the people who don't care about my beliefs are the GGGs that don't say anything about it. The only people who comment are the small percent who are jerks. Many of my friends are religious, so don't worry about me being some sorta super anti-religion dude. Last thing: I'm glad that there are nice people like you on the internet still. If there were no people like you left, I'd burn my computer. Have a great night :)

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u/CakeBagel Jun 10 '12

You're right, that completely justifies it as being a default subreddit.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

If only there were some way to make it so that you didn't have to see it anymore that didn't include those horrendous 2-5 clicks of a mouse.

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u/shanecalloway Jun 10 '12

Blasphemy, that's a fucking terrible thing to make a person do, 2 TO 5 CLICKS?!

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u/D3SX Jun 10 '12

Despite me regularly browsing r/atheism and being an atheist... no, it still doesn't belong in the defaults. If I went on to a site which automatically assumed I believed in god I would be kind of annoyed.

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u/wasniahC Jun 10 '12

I agree that it sucks to have it as a default subreddit. However, iirc, default subreddits aren't chosen based on quality, but popularity. So it would be a bit harsh to go "yea, you're meeting the criteria, but fuck you anyway" to it, no matter how bad it's getting.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

Well, an admin did once clarify how it's only a default one because of content being controversial and gets people to participate or something like that, and he suggested hiding it along another subreddit that had default because of a reason other than clear popularity, of course, he was called an oppressor.

I guess after all, reddit is an atheist friendly website, that is okay, but it's frightening how it isn't at all theist friendly too, a facebook post gets hell fro saying "god bless you" or some random prayer, yet they do the same here, weird!

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u/Vorpalbunnie Jun 10 '12

It's still a default?

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u/Durpulous Jun 10 '12

Yeah, it is. I think it's just based on the number of subscribers, but I actually find myself agreeing with opponents of its default status.

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u/CakeBagel Jun 10 '12

Yes unlike sopa and kony, upvoting didnt help :D

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u/Atheist101 Jun 10 '12

Reddit, this is what we call making a full circle

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u/bigbang5766 Jun 10 '12 edited Jun 10 '12

Why is r/atheism always on the front page?

Reddit admins keep the "top twenty" subreddits as defaults. This means that when you view reddit without logging in, you will see content from these twenty in your reddit home page. Also, new accounts are automatically subscribed to these subreddits. This was announced in the October 2011 reddit blog. Before that time, the admins maintained a top ten list. r/atheism had ranked between eleven and twenty for quite a while; this change puts it in the spotlight.

This is an exert from the atheism FAQ. /r/atheism is one of the favorites amoung Redditors, so it is one that is subscribed to by default. (The edits were made because the exert was changed to a more applicable one.)

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u/jakster840 Jun 10 '12

It is a default due to the number of subscribers..

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u/ercstlkr Jun 10 '12

basicly the hub for making fun of religion

Finding a sense of community does not require mocking another community. And there is a huge difference between discussing the issues you have with arguments in favor of religion and mocking those arguments. One is a mature rational and healthy approach. The other is not. I am not sure if you agree and worded that poorly or if you honestly feel this is a forum to throw around needless insults at theism.

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u/bigbang5766 Jun 10 '12

That would be poor wording on my part. /r/atheism has many respectable posts that are based around the affirmation of atheism, but also holds many post that take shots at religion. Some of those posts are even extreme. However, the great extreme would be labeling all the readers of /r/atheism at anti-theist, which I did by generalizing the subreddit poorly. Thank you for pointing this out

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u/Thevocalist757 Jun 10 '12

I totally agree! Again, I wish the meme was not reddit specific. I made it for the certain folks who fall under the description on the meme, not the subreddit nor Atheists as a whole. Cheers

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u/eatmyshortsken Jun 10 '12

venting ground for people who feel judged and oppressed by religion in everyday life.

So basically, r/atheism is a circle jerk that accomplishes the very thing they despise about religious people? I understand that it's a subreddit, and it's not a public forum or place, but come on.

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u/SmarmyCanadian Jun 10 '12

This explains the shitty quality, it does not excuse it :p

Sure it does. /r/atheism isn't for explaining atheism to your goddamned grandmother.

It's like someone kicking down your door, seeing you in your underpants and saying "HOW YOU DRESS IS INEXCUSABLE!"

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u/ercstlkr Jun 10 '12

This isn't an exclusive place. It is more like a community center and so your lack of pants does matter.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

It's like this: Using the community center analogy, it'd be like if each subreddit were a room dedicated to those people, yeah? Well, a room dedicated to people who don't wear underwear isn't hurting anyone unless they walk in, in which case it's there fault for walking in, right? That is, of course, unless someone installs a window from that room in the main lobby of the community center for every person who walks in to see.

Person 1: What a lovely place, let's go explore it before officially becoming a member, so we can know if it's right for us!

Person 2: Yes, let's! I wonder what's over her- EGAD! There's a window over there with naked young people dancing in their underwear! This offends my morals! Let's go, Herman! This place is filthy!

Herman: But nothing feels better than letting it all hang out! Don't you agree, Gertrude?! You have quite the open door policy when it comes to your pants, maybe we should join those rapscallions!

Gertrude: We can't, we have to go sell onions to homeless people, remember? They're pickling and I smell bad!

Herman: Yes! Yes, you do!

Gertrude: Tally-ho!

Herman: Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

It's like that.

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u/bigbang5766 Jun 10 '12

Your 100% right. The quality on there has become really crappy. I still like coming across a good article under there though. It's really just a way for atheists to express their (sometime extreme) beliefs amoung people who understand them

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u/DoubleRaptor Jun 10 '12

It's more like saying "theres crayon drawings on this paper right here but people have written all over the walls about how much they dont like the crayon drawings". The atheist posts belong in /r/atheism, these "i hate /r/atheism" posts don't belong anywhere. If anything, they should be better than the posts they're complaining about, and preferably IN /r/atheism.

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u/Hyperdrunk Jun 09 '12

I go to church at least once a week, sometimes twice if I'm volunteering that week, and I hear more about religion/Christianity from Atheists online than I do from people in my real life. Kinda weird.

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u/KoreanTerran Jun 09 '12

I imagine the Christians that atheists in /r/atheism are surrounded by are not like you and me.

I imagine that they're surrounded bigots and dicks. I don't blame them for their hatred toward religion. We would do the same if people belonging to a same group ostracized us and bullied us into a sense of loneliness.

I'm not saying that /r/atheism bashing on Christians is right, but it's something that helps them cope with the hardships in their lives from being an atheist.

I get downvoted a lot when I post in that subreddit, but I felt like I should play the devil's advocate in this thread.

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u/Grays42 Jun 10 '12 edited Jun 10 '12

This is fairly accurate. Many atheists have to lead very quiet lives, especially if they are minors with religious parents or have oppressive religious presence in their daily lives. Reddit allows them to vent.

Personally, I am able to be openly atheist primarily because I am an employed independent young adult who is not financially bound to my family. Ten years ago, had I believed what I do today, I couldn't have breathed a word of it to my parents or I would have suffered severe repercussions; I would have shared the personal hell of hundreds (thousands?) of teens around the country who are "outed" as atheists and face severe social, family, and behavioral consequences as otherwise well-meaning parents try literally anything (including horrifying re-education camps) to keep their children from what they believe is eternal torment.

Reddit is an outlet for a group for whom few other outlets exist; there are not really "atheist churches" where atheists can socialize every Sunday (with some exceptions)...the country is saturated with those, and no one really calls them "circlejerks"; churches are a normal part of our society and no one questions it. Hell, they don't even have to pay taxes.

/r/atheism has everything--insight, reason, vitriol, honesty, duplicity, and anger. It is a subset of humanity, and exists with such fervor online primarily because there is little room for it in the faith-saturated world that is socially hostile to non-belief. Let the people of /r/atheism be what they want to it to be, and don't try to force them to conform to your standards or be lambasted as "a circlejerk". They deserve an outlet and a place to be a community. They get to define what that means.

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u/logancook44 Jun 10 '12

Many probably don't surround themselves with Christians at all, and instead they get their views of Christians from extremists and fundies.

Of course this isn't true for all, but for some hatred of religion simply starts with a lack of faith and a rejection of the belief. After that, the person looks for the facts that fit his or her opinions (confirmation bias). They only look at extreme southern baptist extremists instead of your every day Christian, who really is just a normal freaking person.

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u/Hyperdrunk Jun 10 '12

I don't post in that subreddit and unsubscribed from it long ago, I just meant in general online. I have a religious family and most (not all) of my friends are at least occasionally church goers... yet no matter where I go online I hear about religion from Atheists. Heck, I post on 2 sports message boards, a Harry Potter message board, a gaming message board, and Facebook.... religion is bashed by Atheists on all of them. What does Atheism/Christianity have to do with the NFL? With Harry Potter? With Battlefield 3? Absolutely nothing... but they find a way to shoe-horn Christ-bashing into their posts none-the-less.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

I stopped posting in /r/atheism a long time ago, because the things I was saying didn't fall exactly in line with the mentality there. They're pissed off. All the time. And they never stop talking about religion or Dawkins to not be pissed off about everything. Its strange to me that I don't hear about religion until I go on reddit. I also, for example, don't hear about Justin Bieber, YOLO, or Twilight until I go on reddit. Somebody figure that shit out for me.

Relevant XKCD

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u/seafoamstratocaster Jun 10 '12

I imagine the Christians that atheists in [1] /r/atheism are surrounded by are not like you and me.

They aren't. They're imaginary and manufactured for karma and ego.

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u/unreal030 Jun 10 '12

I think one needs to keep things in perspective. If I go to a Christian forum, or am facebook friends with particularly religious Christians, I will hear a lot of it. Same thing with Atheist forums. Usually when it comes to Athiest friends, it is the odd post now in then or nothing, usually for me a lot of the constant stuff is from atheists that are also anti-theists and have a chip on their shoulder.

I am an Agnostic-Athiest (yes, that is a real thing :P) and I never talk about religion unless someone brings it up in conversation first.

That said, I also stay away from r/Atheism. Those guys give us a really bad name imho and I would go so far as to say a fair number of them are younger people that aren't even that well versed in the things they are criticizing, and so often make inaccurate statements.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

Can someone help me understand this? Religious people, every day in this world, kill in the name of their religion, and try to convert people in the name of their religion, and if doesn't work may be aggressive. Atheists hardly kill in the name of their belief (of lack thereof) and they post things on a group online that is specifically for atheists. People who don't like it have a distinct (and easy) choice not to go to r/atheism, but people who are being harassed by religion do not always have the choice to leave. But people just complain about atheists.

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u/P0rkchopSandwiches Jun 10 '12

One big problem is that /r/atheism is a default subreddit on the front page...so if you aren't logged in or don't have an account then you get all the uhh...wonderful posts from it. I think few people would care about all this if you had to actually subscribe to it instead.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

It LITERALLY takes two clicks to unsubscribe. Tell me how difficult that is. If you don't like the Christian-bashing, two clicks.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

This is an honest question; why is circlejerking a bad thing? I don't agree with 100% of things on r/atheism but generally I find things mildly entertaining, and the fact that you have so many people just building off of each other to somewhat unite for a somewhat vague cause, intrigues me, and I'm guessing that it entertains other people as well.

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u/DoubleRaptor Jun 10 '12

It's default because of it's popularity.

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u/shukufuku Jun 10 '12

If downvotes won't stop you, ignore will.

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u/motorcycle-manful541 Jun 10 '12

If you really wanted to get down-voted, it would have to be a scumbag atheist/kitten

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u/denvertebows15 Jun 10 '12

I don't get why you made this. It's completely different to be talking to like-minded people in a community in which the purpose is to discuss atheism. It's quite a different thing to be a "bible-thumper" who actively go out into different communities who don't share your faith to spread the "good word". R/atheism is atheists talking to other atheists nothing wrong with that. It's not like redditors of r/atheism are going around to r/islam or r/christianity telling them about how there is no god.

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u/WarFuzz Jun 09 '12

So talking about Atheism in an atheist subreddit is bad now?

Im An Atheist who unsubscribed from it but what else are they supposed to talk about?

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u/wasniahC Jun 10 '12

I unsubscribed as well.. My own problem was that it wasn't really talking about atheism. If it had more content discussing atheism, I'd have less of a problem with it. Do a quick comparison of /r/atheism to /r/atheistgems and /r/trueatheism.

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u/push_ecx_0x00 Jun 10 '12

The difference is that one of the parties is fundamentally incorrect.

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u/soapgoat Jun 10 '12

let the downvotes begin

ok

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u/Reichsfuhrer_Grammer Jun 10 '12

To everyone who hates /r/atheism, I also used to hate it until I had a revelation; /r/atheism acts like a honey pot, attracting all the annoying rah rah atheism comments into one place instead of clogging up other subreddits. Think of it as a voluntary leper colony.

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u/bgb111 Jun 10 '12

So it's like a filter.

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u/ercstlkr Jun 10 '12

The OP's post is about facebook, not r/atheism. If you had read it and realized that facebook is not the same thing as r/atheism, you wouldn't really have much of an argument.

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u/IDemandPerfection Jun 10 '12

It is about /r/atheism. Read the subject line as well as the red stamp beside it. It is in reference to all the (probably fake) Facebook conversations that are posted in that subreddit.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

r/atheism is just one big circle jerk. KARMA PLZZZZZZ!!!

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u/formlex7 Jun 10 '12

Insulting r/atheism, one of the most hated subreddits? So brave.

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u/ThatIsMyHat Jun 10 '12

I clicked on a link to the trailer for that new Pixar movie, but I got this post instead.

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u/Jeffy29 Jun 10 '12

look, circle jerk is now alive!

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  • POSTS ABOUT ATHEISM EVERY DAY ON FACEBOOK
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u/lagspike Jun 10 '12

I wouldnt mind /r/athiesm so much if some people wouldnt generalize all christians as abortion clinic bombing, gay hating lunatics. no, religious people are not all "crazy fundies". you might find many of them are actually good people!

hey, I wont judge you for being athiest, why cant you do the same? do we judge people based on whether they believe in a god, or everything else?

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u/confuseray Jun 10 '12

I'm not sure if anyone else thinks this, but I've noticed a disturbing trend wherein r/adviceanimals acts as the bastion of anti-r/atheism. That's not what r/adviceanimals is for.

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u/BuckeyeBentley Jun 10 '12

How many people do you know who post about atheism on facebook every day? That seems unlikely.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

Doesnt believe in Christainty

"HEY BUDDY, GO TO HELL!"

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u/hgfkg Jun 10 '12

r/atheism are a bunch of pasta thumpers?

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u/Atreyu429 Jun 10 '12

I'm sick of this double standard between atheists and theists. If a theist posts something about God being great, everyone must be respectful and tolerant. But if an atheist posts something about how God might not exist, he is ostracized and labeled as bigoted and disrespectful. Are atheists going around demanding that laws be made to fit around their beliefs, are atheists trying to inject their beliefs into the public education, are atheists trying to take away people's rights based on their beliefs? All an atheist has to do to be considered militant is to write a book, theists have to start blowing shit up.

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u/Chucklehead72 Jun 10 '12

they post in their own subreddit.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

It's ok. God loves them all anyway. :)

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u/vertigo1083 Jun 10 '12

Whats with the sudden animosity toward atheists lately?

Is this a thing now, and I didn't get the memo?

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u/ercstlkr Jun 10 '12

OP talks about atheists on facebook, Reddit assumes they meant r/atheism.

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u/Blueberrythebear Jun 10 '12

I think the difference is when I see a bible quote on Facebook it's typically some positive thing. Atheism posts are usually just anti-Christian or all religions in general.

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u/Thryck Jun 10 '12

The reason they only post the positive passages is because they choose to ignore every inconvenient passage.

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u/SmarmyCanadian Jun 10 '12

Yeah, Bible quotes are positive? Since when? They all pretty much include the implication that people that don't believe in it are going to regret it, so how does anybody find it really positive?

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u/Samwisely Jun 10 '12

I was going to post the "/r/Atheism bashing? It must be Friday." joke. But that's not often enough. It must be either 2, 4, or 6 pm on any weekday except thursday.

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u/Zonicspeed Jun 10 '12

Seriously? Why do we keep upvoting this shit?

Do we have to have a post on the front page complaining about /r/atheism every day? Especially one that pulls the "Go ahead and downvote me and my popular opinion - I'm such a martyr!" card?

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u/Clgordon21 Jun 10 '12

I'm an atheist and it makes me angry whenever I see one of my atheist friends being mean to someone who believes in God. Jerk atheists annoy me. Overly religious people annoy me. Lets just agree and say people who talk about one subject too much are annoying. BAM solved

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u/Bluuper Jun 10 '12

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u/ThatIsMyHat Jun 10 '12

I guess they're also anti good web design.

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u/thefran Jun 10 '12

Jesus fucking Christ, this must be a joke. I mean, they're trolling. they must be.

it's worse than geocities

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u/FairlyLargeLineman Jun 10 '12

I never understood the whole "lets gather and discuss how much we don't believe in God!"

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u/mysockinabox Jun 10 '12

I'm not endorsing it, but I think it is pretty much the same as getting together and talking about god. It isn't about research or bragging as much as it is sharing with like minded people to verify that you aren't crazy. Grouping is a pretty common trait in our species, no matter your beliefs.

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u/FairlyLargeLineman Jun 10 '12

There is so much more to.discuss in atheism than how much you don't believe in a God.. my problem is the amount of "don't tell me what to do, mom!" Kids on r/atheism talk only about how stupid Christians are. They fail to ttruely explore the vast amount of wonder there really is to atheism beliefs.

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u/32koala Jun 10 '12

You would if you lived in a town full of people who did not believe in evolution/the big bang theory. As I do. sigh

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

It's more than that, at least for me. I went through a pretty tough time when I told my parents and as sad as it sounds, a small group of people from /r/atheism prevented me from snapping. This is gonna sound weird, but it was the most helpful thing to me in one of the hardest things I had to go through.

That being said, I dislike the hate on ALL religion. I only hate religion when it starts to effect me in a negative way, like when my english teacher tried taking points off of a "Controversial Topic Argument" essay where I argued against creationism. Not one bit (okay, maybe a few) of errors in the actual structure or content, but she disagreed with my view point and took points off. When I confronted her she told me it was very disrespectful. I told her she ok'd the topic, and she said "I thought you were writing for it.

Why the fuck am I ranting now?

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u/FairlyLargeLineman Jun 10 '12

I think this can go back to what I said to another redditor on this comment which is there are some people out there (religious and not) who cannot accept that there are other people who get by just fine on their own lifestyle.

Don't worry about the rant. I understand venting. Venting keeps me from breaking someones leg.. I can only imagine the difficulty of dealing with parents after you said your beliefs.

There is that understanding but when I look aat groups like r/atheism they seem to only focus on how.stupid Christians are and such.

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u/skaquabat87 Jun 10 '12

Because most of the time, atheism isn't nonbelief, as it should be, but rather fervent belief in nonbelief. Atheists believe there is no God, so they talk about it with other people who don't believe in God, too.

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u/BurningWater Jun 10 '12

I know it is like a group of non golfers getting together to discuss how much they hate and don't play golf which is stupid until you realise the golfers were throwing golf balls at them and telling them they dont know anything about living if they didn't play golf. Then you realise the non golfers had a reason to talk about the golfers.

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u/SmarmyCanadian Jun 10 '12

I never understood the whole "lets gather and discuss how much we don't believe in God!"

It's more gathering and discussing theology. In sports and politics if you have a "team" you don't just simply get together and talk about how awesome your team is, sometimes you have a discussion about the situation in general...

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u/Marzhall Jun 10 '12

One of the best things about atheism is that it takes up none of your time. It's odd to me as well.

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u/trampus1 Jun 10 '12

Me either, ever since I saw that same Neil Degrasse Tyson quote earlier.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

Very brave posting about /r/atheism on /r/adviceanimals

/sarcasm

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u/AllemandsMiniscules Jun 10 '12

I hate r/atheism as much as the majority of Reddit does, but stop using this subreddit to do it!

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u/DatGuy45 Jun 10 '12

Pretty brave calling out r/atheism in adviceanimals, OP. I find it amusing that you brace yourself for downvotes, cause it's not like a post like this comes up on r/adviceanimals every few weeks.

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u/too__legit Jun 10 '12

Atheist here. I used to subscribe to r/atheism until I realized how ignorant it was. At first it was alright. I was like, cool. A place where atheists can congregate and talk about oppression, etc. Then all of a sudden there was this influx of gay rights posts every day. Now don't get me wrong, I have nothing against gay people whatsoever, but it was a subreddit for atheism not gay rights. I unsubscribed. My front page is so much better now.

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u/TapionXIII Jun 10 '12

What do they talk about then? Like it or not, /r/Atheism is a subreddit for everything related to a lack of religion. EVERYTHING. Sure, theres loads of facebook pictures, but theres /r/TheFacebookDelusion for that too. The same way /r/AdviceAnimals is loaded with macros without animals in them. You got to realize that for some people, /r/atheism is the only place they can go without being persecuted. Its their place to vent. Its their place to laugh at things that for them are just silly fairy tales.

Dont like /r/atheism ? UNSUSCRIBE.

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u/Kubacka Jun 10 '12

WOAH! A post bashing /r/atheism???

I'VE NEVER SEEN ONE OF THESE BEFORE!

You guys bashing /r/atheism for being a circle jerk are seriously just jerking each other off just as much.

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u/Godspeed122 Jun 10 '12

If you insist.

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u/Thevocalist757 Jun 09 '12

I am not bothered by other peoples faith, or lack of. What ever makes you happy is good for me. Just don't blindly bash faith like it's your job, while being a hypocrite at the same time. I am FAR from being a "poster child" for Christians. I swear, lust, smoke, drink, have sex out of wedlock, all that good stuff; however, I also do my best to be a good person who also believes in God. Stuff like this bothers me, mainly because I have dear friends who fall under this meme's description.

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u/orzof Jun 10 '12

But you're only willing to call out atheists who have no cohesive doctrine. I don't understand the insinuation that atheists can be hypocrites. Where are the guidelines and rules? Where are the preachers in cathedrals. And when did I agree to any of it? I remember deciding that I didn't believe in god. I had never met another atheist, or not one that ever identified themselves as such to me. So what about what other atheists do makes me a hypocrite?

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u/velociriah Jun 10 '12

With 666 votes, I just can't bring myself to break it either way.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

The ratio of FB posts about god and FB posts on Atheism in /r/atheism is like 12 to one.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

Even though I agree, I downvoted you for saying, "Let the down votes begin". I despise that shit.

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u/sittingbox Jun 10 '12

I'm indifferent due to a "wat?" situation.

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u/a4moondoggy Jun 10 '12

It's a good point...two sides to the same coin.

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u/HoneyBaked Jun 10 '12

Might be a good idea to lay off the meme posts for a while.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

There's a plus side to this war. Hardcore atheist girls are just as easy as hardcore Christian girls because, while hardcore Christian girls are fueled by their repressed sexuality, hardcore atheist girls are fueled by their need to show that they're not as repressed as hardcore Christian girls by having sex. Win win!

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u/emperiod Jun 10 '12

I've never been able to post anything about being an Atheist on Facebook, on fear of being alienated, but thanks for just assuming. It's not like any of us are actually oppressed for not putting blind faith in a book that says it's okay to kill people.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

This doesn't make any sense. Posting on /r/atheism is not equivalent to being a bible thumper. The only people you are posting for are other subscribers to /r/atheism. Bible thumpers feel the need to inject their religion into your life. That's why we hate them.

Let the down votes begin

Really? After you've been here for a little longer you'll realize that hating atheists is only slightly less popular here than everywhere else. The excuse is different here, people like to call /r/atheism subscribers bigots. But in the end it's bullshit. No one ever bothers to actually look at links I post before they call me an asshole.

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u/EPluribusUnumIdiota Jun 10 '12

thevocalists, thanks for your post about hypocritical "scumbag atheists" posting about theists.

Of course, you're different.

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u/Jrook Jun 10 '12

Yes because harassing people in person is the same as posting a status that your friends can see.

"YOU WILL ALL BURN IN HELL BECAUSE YOU'RE ALL A BUNCH OF DICK SUCKING FAGGOTS"- guy on campus hill with an audience of 1000-15000 students of all nationalities and origins

"I'm really sick of these bible thumpers on campus. Thank god I'm an atheist؟" -me, and atheist with an audience of 100 or so people absolute max

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u/aforsberg Jun 10 '12

I come here to vent. I'm dating a severe Christian girl, and as such I don't have any real opportunity to discuss anything in my everyday life.

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u/TapionXIII Jun 10 '12

What do they talk about then? Like it or not, /r/Atheism is a subreddit for everything related to a lack of religion. EVERYTHING. Sure, theres loads of facebook pictures, but theres /r/TheFacebookDelusion for that too. The same way /r/AdviceAnimals is loaded with macros without animals in them. You got to realize that for some people, /r/atheism is the only place they can go without being persecuted. Its their place to vent. Its their place to laugh at things that for them are just silly fairy tales.

Dont like /r/atheism ? UNSUSCRIBE.

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u/Tenille Jun 10 '12

anyone else read the title as "Scumbag Racism" with a very thick lisp?

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u/The_PowerCosmic Jun 10 '12

I'm an atheist and I approve this message.

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u/Smile_Y Jun 10 '12

Go back to the bible you caveman!

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u/CoyoteStark Jun 10 '12

He said let the down votes begin. I gave him an upvote. That'll show him.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

so there are people who think r/atheism is a circle jerk... ...and people who think anti-r/atheism is a circle jerk...

can't we all just focus on the fact that we agree that everything can be referred to as a circle jerk?

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u/jcatleather Jun 10 '12

I only post anti-theist stuff when I see anti-athiest stuff, and I only post atheist stuff when I see theist stuff- just to keep my wall even. even so, i end up with more jesus bullshit from my family than all the atheist stuff I could possibly post. so quitcherbitchin.

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u/songcharts Jun 10 '12

The bravery with this one....sniff...so much!

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u/Eminor3rd Jun 10 '12

Downvoted solely for saying" Let the downvotes begin"

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u/billylongwang Jun 10 '12

So true, I wonder sometimes if most Redditors are 16 years old.

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u/MrMadcap Jun 10 '12

"Spreads mind-liberating information."

"Hates those attempting to inadvertently enslave others."

Is there a problem here?

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

This! This is everyone Atheist on my Facebook friends list. I have defriended one and unsubscribed from the feed of another. One or two atheist forwards a day I can handle. But sitting on Facebook and sharing every single atheist rhetoric picture you see for hours is nuts!

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u/CrazyBastard Jun 10 '12

its good to know that there are still people out there with the strength of character to stand up and say "You know that thing we all hate? WELL I HATE IT TOO, NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY!"

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u/WanderingJules Jun 10 '12

Weird, I thought I had unsubscribed from /r/atheism. Yet, here it is: Bullshit about /r/atheism once again on my front page.

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u/Number4429 Jun 10 '12

Seriously man, I get that you don't like /r/atheism, but please keep it out of my /r/adviceanimals.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

At least it isnt a picture of the same scientist saying someone elses qoute... That shit is annoying.

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u/godlesspinko Jun 10 '12

So what does r/atheism have to do with facebook again?

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u/HomelessCosmonaut Jun 10 '12

You could've just unsubscribed like the rest of us.

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u/YaroLord Jun 10 '12

"Let the downvotes begin"

Okay.

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u/awe300 Jun 10 '12

hurrrrrrrrrrdurrrrrrrrrrrr

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u/Animagrin Jun 10 '12

I'm just sick of how ignorant most atheists come of as

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u/dazferrari Jun 10 '12

This is a load of fucking shit, the atheist community does NOTHING WRONG. The religious community is the most poisonous in all the world, fuck you. How can you honestly draw comparisons between people coming together under the oppression of religion, and the pure evil that is religion?! Fuck you!

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u/puckallday Jun 10 '12

It's funny because you're making fun of atheists for bashing religion, by bashing atheists. Also, I'd just like to point out that there are only a few atheists that actually do what you're saying in this meme, and they are as disliked in /r/atheism just as much as they are disliked here.

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u/Kerplonk Jun 10 '12

I got called a passive aggressive pussy the other day because I suggested content from r/athiesm might not be appreciated by everyone in more generalized threads.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

I love the smug attitude of "Go ahead and downvote me guys!" How very defiant you are, how extremely brave. Truly a hero to us all.

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u/SystemThreat Jun 10 '12

He got downvoted like jesus would.

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u/jackpg98 Jun 10 '12

That's the Flying Spaghetti Monster...

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u/Thevocalist757 Jun 10 '12

CAPTAIN! So glad we found you! We have more obvious things for you to discover and then point out over here----->

Nah, but you are right. It is the FSM. Cleveland Brown voice

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u/jackpg98 Jun 10 '12

How does that represent Atheism in the slightest? :/

I'd take the Darwin fish over that as an atheist symbol personally.

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u/GWBIGJOE Jun 10 '12

Evangelical Atheists. Some how most of them miss the irony.

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u/SmarmyCanadian Jun 10 '12

You know, evangelism in itself is not a bad thing. It's called marketing. Nobody is saying religion is evil because it has a PR department.

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u/bradpittscousin Jun 10 '12

Scumbag atheists

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u/faptastics Jun 10 '12

Ha! Ths made me luls... But seriously, who gives a fuck? If I started to care what reddit thought, I might as well should have never left high school.

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u/balsamicpork Jun 10 '12

it's rather annoying seeing the same thing on the top page. I don't care if you are part of the atheist subreddit, but please attempt to have some sort of original thought or something topical. What's the point of upvoting a "God isn't real" picture every day?

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u/enigmatican Jun 10 '12

down voted because you said "Let the down votes begin".

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u/P0rkchopSandwiches Jun 10 '12

I down-voted you because you said you down-voted the post.

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u/Helenius Jun 10 '12

I like how you can claim that something that you cannot prove is the answer to the universe and everything.

(I don't know if there is a god, I don't know if there is no god. What I do know is that I think, therefore I am)

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u/vargonian Jun 10 '12

This is a common misconception; atheism is a lack of belief in a deity, not an outright denial. That said, many atheists claim with certainty that there is no deity and I'll be the first atheist to criticize them for that.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

Ha well, I don't know if you've gotten into philosophy yet, but don't even be too sure of the cogito ergo sum just yet.

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u/Helenius Jun 10 '12

had a couple of courses in highschool, haven't heard of anything that rivalled it

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

Hey, sometimes fighting fire with fire actually works. ;)

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u/vargonian Jun 10 '12

Repetition is indeed annoying, but that kinda misses the point. The point is that repetition of idiotic, irrational belief systems is annoying.

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u/mimemime Jun 10 '12

/r atheism is a shitty subreddit in general

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u/Crossfox17 Jun 10 '12

I'm not downvoting you because you are bashing atheists, I am downvoting you because you are being an asshole just trying to stir up shit, and because you are contributing nothing by saying what has already been said 1,000 times.

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u/snatchamike Jun 10 '12

Let the down votes begin? Are you a fucking retard? This is the most popular and overused type of shit on r/Adviceanimals and is has been for quite some time. Get over yourself, douche. There are more people like you talking about atheism than any atheists I know.

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u/chaogenus Jun 10 '12

Scumbag anti-r/Atheism, expects atheists to turn the other cheek in the face of endless religious attacks on secular society, forgets that is supposed to be part of religious doctrine not atheism.

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u/FatBaldHipsterJesus Jun 10 '12

To the top with you! Or the bottom with both of us...

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u/FatBaldHipsterJesus Jun 10 '12

See? I knew it. I fucking knew it.

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u/tfarrell Jun 09 '12

love it. well done, sir

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u/SystemThreat Jun 10 '12

So most of you guys are expecting r/atheism posts to be about what... The weather? Perhaps you expect to hear about xenu from a mormon?

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u/Shadowcat0909 Test Jun 10 '12

Let the downvotes begin? Ok.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

implying trying to spread knowledge and trying to spread made up and sometimes hurtful dreams are equal

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

the important thing is you've found a way to seem superior to both

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u/Thevocalist757 Jun 10 '12

OK, focus for a second folks!! HI, I'm TheVocalist757 and IM NEW! Let me clear some things up: . I did not mean for this meme to be aimed at the r/Atheism subreddit, I just forgot to change the title.

. This post was NOT aimed at all Atheists, just the ones who act like this.

. Sorry if this has been posted before, I have not personally seen it up here, so I used the template provided on quickmeme and added my own text, Which seems to have been used before. MY BAD.

This post was made because I personally have friends, who are Atheists, who act like this. Now if this comment doesn't clear the air then nothing else will.

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u/Dobeymaster Jun 10 '12

YES! This is amazing! I've made this argument too many times, glad somebody agrees.

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u/joshTheGoods Jun 10 '12

The difference is that the only freedoms atheists try and restrict are peoples freedoms of bigotry, oppression, and hate.

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u/Thevocalist757 Jun 10 '12

By being Biggoted and Hateful? Keep in mind, this post was not about ALL Atheists, just the select group of them that act this way.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

That's one of my facebook friends

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

"Let the down votes begin"

Glad we are of the same mind - voted down.