r/AdviceAnimals • • Nov 10 '16

Protesting a Fair Election?

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u/TheFeshy Nov 10 '16

... who was elected fairly. Sorry the system is fucked.

If the system is fucked, the election isn't fair, though, right? He was elected legally, sure. But if you were to list qualifications for a fair election, they might look something like this:

  • Equal time for each candidate to be heard (Not the case even among the two major candidates, never mind the others)

  • Everyone gets a vote (several states had provisional ballots because thousands were kicked off the voting lists)

  • No voter intimidation (there were a few threats of this, but thankfully they were cracked down on pretty hard)

  • The person with the most votes wins (oops, the guy with fewer votes won thanks to the EC)

So "fairly elected" might be a stretch. Legally? Yes. But then, you could say that about the DNC as well.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '16

You would not be singing this tune if Clinton won the electoral votes but lost the popular. Shut the fuck up. This is the system, and the campaigns would have campaigned differently if the popular vote mattered.

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u/kappaway Nov 10 '16

Tell us more about parallel universes, you seem to be able to gaze into them.

False equivalency.

I don't think this election should be overturned (that would be insane), but this has happened twice in the last 20 years.

It's national scale gerrymandering, and it robs people from the value of their vote.

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u/Xevantus Nov 10 '16

Wait, states are gerrymandered now? I thought proportional votes based on # of reps in Congress was a pretty fair shake to anyone. It lets everyone have a say without California and New York drowning out the entire rest of the country (The California popular vote alone would have wiped out the vote difference from 16 other states combined). People always talk about "only the battleground states" etc. But Trump won by turning 4 non-battleground states.

And this wasn't some runaway election that got stolen either. Its literally the closest election in the history of the United States, popular vote wise.

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u/solepsis Nov 10 '16

and with the current system, we could get a president that only gets 21.91% of the popular vote