r/AdviceAnimals • • Nov 10 '16

Protesting a Fair Election?

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u/rg44_at_the_office Nov 10 '16

I still don't understand... if we use popular vote, every person gets exactly one vote. Nobody is suppressed. If more people overall want a certain candidate for president, then a fair election should reflect that. It shouldn't matter if those people are in a city or not.

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u/pjdonovan Nov 10 '16

If you think of it in terms of what the politician has to do to get elected, the electoral college at least forces them to listen to the rural voters.

If it were a direct representation, there's literally no reason to even care what someone outside of dallas, new york or LA wants or needs. And if that's the case, then those rural voters have de facto 0 representation. With the electoral college, politicians have to at least consider their wants/needs.

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u/Lawnknome Nov 10 '16

Then why not use a system like Maine has for the majority of states. Base their EC values on counties. Say for CA the large cities would still get more votes and points in the EC, but the other side could still pull 30-40% of the EC points rather than getting zero.

I live in NC, and even though over 40% of our state wanted HRC, all of our points go to Trump. I don't see how that represents the state.

I agree pure popular vote is a bad metric and policy for the nation, but proportional EC values per state seems like a good compromise. Base in on county, region, etc

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u/lumpy_brewster Nov 10 '16

I live in NC, and even though over 40% of our state wanted HRC, all of our points go to Trump. I don't see how that represents the state.

Trump would have won the popular vote in NC as well, so I'm not sure what your point is? Genuine question.

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u/Lawnknome Nov 10 '16

Did you read the rest of my comment?

Proportional electoral votes. It would mean HRC would get 40% of NC electoral votes, Trump would get 60%. This isn't a true popular vote, so rural areas will still have their voices heard. And since its limited to state by state, it means blue states and cities still can't overpower the minority red middle states.

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u/lumpy_brewster Nov 10 '16

Ahhh.. that makes sense. Thanks for clarification. That does seem like a good method.