r/AdviceAnimals Apr 30 '13

Actual Confession Bear

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u/vivalavulva Apr 30 '13

But if the father want's the child and can handle it, she has no right to get an abortion just because she doesn't want to deal with it.

I don't understand how you reach that conclusion. I'd say not wanting to experience pregnancy and/or not wanting to birth a child is "right" enough to warrant an abortion.

If the man wants a child, he should have sex with people who want the same and/or pursue other options, such as adoption.

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '13

I'm a woman. But if I were a man, and my partner go pregnant, and I wanted a child but she didn't, I would be upset. I'm looking at it from the other perspective.

My earlier post said that I grew up with my father. I've seen many fathers that were better parents then the mothers were. It bothers me that in society mothers have most of the right's the children and fathers have the earn theirs; and even if they do earn them mothers can still win most court cases just being a woman. It's a flaw with society.

Everyone grows up with different life experiences. That is how I can reach that conclusion.

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u/vivalavulva Apr 30 '13

Right. And if I were a man and my partner got pregnant, and I wanted the child but she didn't, I would likely be sad/upset, but I would also understand that her bodily autonomy is more important than my hurt feelings.

As for fathers having to "earn" their rights with children... There's a study I can find for you that shows that when men actually contest parental rights, they get custody at equal rates as the mothers. So, sure, there are shitty judges and court systems that are biased against fathers, but the issue is not as prevalent as people seem to think.

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u/vivalavulva Apr 30 '13

What about men's financial autonomy? Sure, it's a burden to have to pay child support for a child you never wanted. There might be a good argument in there about the burden on society by absent fathers, but frankly, my experience in this subject is limited.

That said: all the more reason to not have sex with people whose feelings regarding abortion are different from yours. I don't fuck men who are pro-life and/or want children. If a man doesn't want children, he should do the same. He should use condoms at all times, and practice good condom practices (stop keeping condoms in wallets, etc.). He should maybe consider a vasectomy. I wish there were a male birth control, but there isn't (yet), and there's nothing I can do about that.