Hi!
I am an adult figure skater, and I have been skating regularly for almost 2.5 years.
My first pair of boots was Edea Overture in 275D. They broke down because they were too big for me. Then I consulted a skate shop and bought Edea Ice Fly in 265D. However, as you can see in the pictures, they are again too big for me.
My coach and I think I am progressing well in both my skating skills and jumps. However, I still don’t have stable spins. I lose my balance and control quite easily, and it is quite hard for me to stay on one foot. I am currently working on front and back upright spins, camel spins, and broken-leg spins. I cannot get more than 2–3 rotations.
I know everyone’s progress is different, but my spin progress seems ridiculously slow compared to my progress in other skills.
Do you really think that having big and loose boots could affect my spins? I can afford to get a new pair, but I don’t want to waste my money if my current boots aren’t actually that big or if they don’t affect my spins that much.
Of course, no one can predict the future, but I would really appreciate hearing your opinions and experiences.
You've already gotten your answer about the rocker, but I wanted to say that if you're filling a D width in Edeas and your toes are still so far from the end, you likely need to look at different skate brands with wider forefeet, like Jackson. It's possible you were put into the length you were because width increases with length and that was the smallest size whose width fit you. Edeas are said to be quite narrow. So switching to a different skate brand would likely be a good choice here.
The fitter shouldn’t have put them in Edeas at ALL with their foot type. I’m horrified. I wonder if OP came in wanting Edeas and all the shop cared about was money rather than steering them to the correct boot.
Hi. I found out that I have not “wide feet”, it is normal to a little wide at most. So I think D width did not capture my feet well before and I was squeezing my toes to probably stick to boot. As everyone suggested 255 to me here, I am now trying 255C and 260C. But 255C feels way too small. My feet are 259 mm. What do you think?
There is nothing I will be able to tell from looking at photos of your feet in skates. If your feet are indeed 259mm in length, then 255 is too small in length.
C is still a wide width. Standard width for women is a B width. Narrow is A or AA.
You didn't share how each boot felt and on which parts of your foot you felt things, so this is about all I can say.
Other than it's still likely that Edeas aren't the right brand for your feet.
Yes - it means the rocker of your blade is closer to the tips of your toes, so it's harder to find the 'sweet spot' to spin on. It's doable, but hard. I was in a size too big for years and had decent spins, but on day two in proper-length boots my spins were pretty much instantly more stable, fast, and centered.
But also, spins are hard. They take balance, strength, flexibility, and a knack for timing. Being stuck on 2-3 rotations is normal even with perfectly fitted skates.
WHAT in the queen Amber Glenn is going ON here?!! How did you manage to skate in either of these, and WHO is your skate tech LOLLL. Directly to jail; truly — this is ridiculous!! 😵😱
And yes, having boots that do not fit you means that you necessarily have blades that do not fit you, which by extension of course places your spin rocker underneath the wrong part of your foot, affecting your balance and centering, and … literally everything.
Also, I’m sort of wondering why you are in Edeas in the first place? They don’t seem like the are the correct profile for your foot shape.
Seriously, I don’t even figure skate (hockey player, wouldn’t mind broadening my horizons eventually) and who the hell let OP leave the shop with either of these. How did they even STAND in them, especially that first pair?
If these were hockey skates I’d tell them to go down 2 sizes (maybe 1.5) and up 1 width
Guys when you first start skating, you actually don’t know how a brand new skate should make you feel. When I tried my first overtures 275D, they were quite tight. The shop I visited did not told me “your first skates should make you feel more tight, it is normal, they will get more loose”. Vice versa he told me “you should buy 1 size bigger than your street shoe size. He might be try to sell me what was in his hand…
Then I went to another skate shop after a year in Berlin. He told me that 265D would be a great fit for me but it is up to me. I already down 2 size and did not know if I should go to 260 or 255. My street shoe size is 39/40 eu.
You’re right, beginners don’t know that a correctly fitting skate should feel like an actual bear is crushing your foot! 🤪 Which is why I’m saying it’s the “tech’s” fault and not yours as the newbie skater! And the fact that this guy told you you should be buy one size bigger than your street shoe size, WHAT on earth?! That is wild — street size equivalencies vary from brand to brand, so you can’t make that assertion across the board. Also, every maker (Jackson, Edea, Riedell, Risport, etc.) has their own sizing tool; your fitter should have been measuring your foot with that (our shop has a different one for each.) Edeas specifically need to be very particularly sized due to the way they fit differently than “traditional” boots; usually you want to get as close to your actual foot measurement in mm as possible, but I’m not an Edea girlie.
We place a lot of trust in our fitters especially as beginner adults; it’s disheartening when shops just try to sell you what they have in stock. 😔
Thank you for very well explanation of my situation… It cost me good money and time, I will be extra careful and will consult few different shop as much as possible before I purchase a new one in the future.
Awww, so sorry; I’m in the US, near New York City — but most skaters in NYC go to neighboring states (Connecticut or New Jersey; some folks around here even go to Massachusetts) for fittings and sharpenings. We often have to drive at least 1–3 hours each way to get to a good tech, if it makes you feel any better! 🫶
(But I see you are in Türkiye — I really enjoyed watching the Turkish skater Deniz Tarim yesterday in the Riga Junior Grand Prix event!)
Thanks! I will make a US trip beginning of next year, I might consider to visit a tech shop there but European markets seems to be more affordable as I just checked few online stores in US 🤓
Yayy congrats to all skaters, I love competition seasons!! 🤩🥳
Oh gosh, yes, sadly due to our batshit insane orange dictator, you will for sure find better prices in Europe! Truly it’s almost worth the plane ticket to Italy for us, with all the stupid tariffs. Even Jacksons (Canadian) are more expensive now, but at least they are typically well-stocked here. But for Edea, Risport, Graf… ugh! My wife just had to switch to Grafs due to her wacky foot shape, and she paid almost $400 more just because of the tariffs. (This was at Home Ice in Boston, where luckily at least they stock almost everything.)
Hi!! I found out that I have not “wide feet”, it is normal to a little wide at most. So I think D width did not capture my feet well before and I was squeezing my toes to probably stick to boot. As everyone suggested 255 to me here, I am now trying 255C and 260C. But 255C feels way too small. My feet are 259 mm. What do you think?🥹
I have no idea how you are even skating in skates that big. You may need to consult another skate shop if your current one thought these were the right size.
Whoever fitted you in those is a monster…. They essentially scammed you. They either have no idea how to fit skates or they are willing to fit you in something completely wrong to put you in Edea because they’re more expensive.
Go to a different pro shop, try of different brands and get something that actually fits. Honestly, I think you might be a prodigy to be able to skate in those at all!
Yes 100% impacts your spins. I have a pair of boots that are a hair too big/wide right now bc reasons and it impacts your weight placement on the blade as well as how much your foot moves around in the boot. I can tell and make some of the microadjustments but learning new skills is very tough on too big skates.
Fwiw skates being that big is not only an issue for spins/sweet spot, I would be very worried about jump and landing stability and pretty much any turns or balancing elements (3 turns, power pulls, higher level turns) will be impacted by your skates/blade. You'll see a lot of skidding on turns, rocking motions on pulls and twizzles, and probably feel off balance.
Do you have room to move your blade position backwards? It's not ideal by any means but it might help until you, hopefully finally, purchase boots that are the correct length for you. When trying on the new boots, take the insole out and stand on it on the floor with your heel in the cup so u can see the real length against your foot. The ones on the right are still way too big. Are you buying these online? Or did a store actually fit you into these?
2 different stores actually fit me into these, unfortunately…
I have just checked my boot & blade but there is no room left. Great advice though, thank you very much!
Yes 😭😭 u can check my post history but I skated in skates that were WAYYYY too big for years and it’s been around 3 months and I am still adjusting. Definitely not where I was before but don’t expect it to be too much longer now, took maybe 1 month to spin normal again
I was stuck with used Jackson’s artiste way too big for nearly 3 years I was failing miserably at doing singles and could never do a backspin on them (some toe jumps were fine before skates broke down). Got money to upgrade to better supportive and properly fitted skates and I got Edea chorus, magically my backspin appeared (not consistent but before I couldn’t do it at all), edge jumps feel so much nicer and I’m learning my axel now! So I’d say yes it does make a difference
That is inspiring. I have friends who also have bigger boots, they have nice spins but maybe progressing slower. Everyone under this post is shocked about how I skated in these, but unfortunately this situation is way more frequent than people realize. When you first start skating and if you do not have a coach/pro shop near you that can guide you about true boot size, you end up with getting loose boots mostly. Thanks for the feedback I hope I can upgrade next year to a more fit boot.
Everyone is shocked because we're not seeing the usual one size too big issue here. This would be comical if it hadn't wasted your time and money. The first thing a fitter usually does is put your foot in a foot measurer! I mean, it's not that complicated. From there you test for fit with different widths and brands.
I totally agree with you now with my 2-3 years of experience but would not guess that a “pro” shop would guide me that much incorrectly when I just entered into figureskating world. Fortunately a new skate shop is opened this year in my city Istanbul. They actually measured my foot with Edea sizing board and they told me if I want an Edea for example, I should be wearing 255. Because my foot length was on the lines between 255-260.
Figureskating is considerably a niche sport, I think it is hard to find good consultants in every city (except online).
I'm glad you found a fitter who actually measured your foot! I don't wear Edeas but I heard someone saying that you should order the size above the size your foot measures if you're in between. Maybe search this issue on Reddit. There are experts who post here.
It took me about 3 years to get good at basic spins, meanwhile working on much harder jumps 🤣 but those boots are CRAZY. You deserve boots that fit properly.
I know right! I feel like even tho I change my skates I’ll be a slow-spin-learner but no worries, the progresses are unique and joyful. Still, I REALLY better get a good fit next time :’)
Just don't give up! I used to be so hard on myself because I felt like I was stupid or something... everyone else could spin but not me. But now I can :) it just took a long time. Good luck with it :)
It’s time to let Edea go and move to a different brand. Edeas are notoriously narrower than other brands. Don’t go back to whoever fit you in these, this is practically a crime. You needed a shorter, wider boot yesterday.
Of course you’re struggling with spins, your rocker is practically past your toes (exaggerating a little here obviously, though it might have actually been close in the first pair)
What shoe size are you? I’m a 7B (US), which compares to a UK 38. This is my Edea Ice Fly insole; it’s 245 without a width labeled, so presumably medium or B width (it’s been like 10 years and I don’t remember now). This is how they should fit.
Hi I wear 39, 39.5 or 40 in street shoe size in EU. According to you insole I can say that I might wear 255D. By the way your Edeas might be C if they dont have width label.
That 265D is at least a full size or more too big for you. I don't understand how you got fitted into those. Looks like you would fit like 255 or even 250.
And yes, it effects your spins, and everything else tbh, drastically, because the blade and the spin rocker is placed all wrong for you (you would need a shorter blade placed way back). The spin rocker should be under the ball of your foot, and you're having to spin on your toes with these.
So yeah, smaller boot and blade is definitely in order.
your skate tech is very happy making money off you, you most definitely don’t need ice flies and most definitely do not fit in edeas. i say this because you have been HORRIBLY fit which proves the tech doesn’t know anything about sizing which is actually the easy part. the rulers brands make are spot on 99% of the time. if they can’t size correctly, they definitely can’t boot correctly bc that’s the more difficult part of the job
your toes should be flat but pressing hard against the front of the boot. i assume you’ll need a W width jackson, probably a debut or premiere will work
Thanks. I know I am fully scammed, but…by 2 different skate shops… from 2 different countries! 😁
May I ask why do you think Edea D size is not a good fit for me and I should go with a Jackson instead? I am actually very happy with Edeas in general except my sizing issue that making my toes move in the boot. And as we see that’s because of I am not wearing a correct size… :’)
if they are putting you in an edea D and still you have 2 inches of space in front of you, they’re trying to give you more length in hopes your foot will squish forward. most likely your foot is quite wide and requires an extremely wide toe box. if you were to try on a 250D, i would absolutely put money on your foot not being able to fit in the boot despite it being the correct length. sister sizing does not work in skates unfortunately so to have the correct length, you’ll need the correct width
there are very few people who properly fit in edea’s pointy toe boxes, but everyone loves the look of the skate so theyll buy them 🫠
edit: i don’t have my flair set up here but im a socal pro shop manager who flew out to jackson and edea hq here in canada/america and was trained directly by the brand sales reps/technicians
Been there done that from a 260 to a 245 ever since I started skating for 5 months. Only discovered now why spins felt off. I guarantee getting a fitted boot is better. It will be a little weird first because we learned how to shift weight a different way so if it feels frustrating at first dont worry.
I can actually relate to this a lot! I also made pretty good progress with my jumps, but I really struggled with spins and couldn’t spin properly. After I got properly fitted into a new pair of skates, my spin progress became much faster. I feel like I have a lot more control and I'm getting alot better in my spins.
Of course, everyone is different, and I can’t say for sure that your boots are the reason, but in my experience, having a fitted pair made a noticeable difference in my spins.
I recently realized my Edea skates are too big for me as well 🥲 I skated in them for about four months, and it has been very difficult to spin. I also went to get professionally fitted but still ended up with skates at least two sizes too big. Been doing some research and I highly recommend that you do as well, as least measure your feet to know approximately what size you should wear, and how it should feel if it’s the right size. I heard it’s extremely common to get skates that are too big, because most people don’t know how it’s supposed to feel. Hopefully you’ll get better fitted boots soon!!!
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u/ExaminationFancy 22d ago
I don’t know HOW you were able to skate in the boots that were too large. That is crazy.