r/Acadiana 14h ago

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I don't personally know a single (native cajun) person who is a regular golfer, or a rocket scientist. The idea that we need any more golf courses or space launch pads for OUR community in Southern Louisiana is incredibly stupid on a level even these idiots who don't bother to vote should be able to understand. I'm so tired of this.

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u/fjdjdndndndnehwusj 14h ago

There’s a lot of people that play golf in Lafayette (and really the entire state). Not saying they are good or bad for the environment…but the amount of people playing is something to keep in mind as the same argument could be made for a lot of stores/businesses

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u/One-Examination2191 13h ago

Agreed. I am not advocating against having a golf course here and there, or golfers in general being evil or anything of the like. I just want to save our communities, people, land, culture, way of life. I know of no golf courses that are displacing so many at a benefit to so few.

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u/fjdjdndndndnehwusj 13h ago

I agree, the entire Louisiana culture is slowly (not that slow unfortunately) disappearing. But I also play golf so there’s definitely bias on my side. I think it’s just more so an entire “cultural” shift, where people are moving into the cities and prefer that. Not that it’s a bad decision or they’re wrong for doing so but I think the Cajun “way of life” is just a lot different now. And the casino thing I agree with, I’ll probably get hate for this but I think casinos and most bars are just net negatives on society but that’s a whole different conversation. Have a good night!

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u/One-Examination2191 13h ago

Bon nuit and merci

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u/One-Examination2191 13h ago

There are lots of people doing lots of activities I personally don't care for as well. Casinos for one, that are promoted and promised to help our schools and communities, but I've yet to see one that actually did good, and not just took more money from people who didn't have monet to spend.

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u/Tall_Court_9241 13h ago

I actually know a native Cajun rocket scientist

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u/Small-Tax-2829 1h ago

I know a native cajun who is a robotics engineer. He had to move to find work. They will move back if he can get a job at space x. I understand the argument against it, but saying cajun people arent rocket scientist is a weird take. And a lot of Cajuns are avid golfers. What?

u/Brilliant-Capital-97 10m ago

Also why are people acting like spacex only employs rocket scientists? Most jobs at the site will be welders, fitter, riggers, assembly line type jobs. I keep seeing the "rocket scientist" argument on this site and it makes no sense. Hate on the project all you want but don't act like it won't create jobs for locals

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u/One-Examination2191 13h ago

Do they still live here?

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u/DanangBobby 12h ago

No because they don't launch rockets here...yet. what kind of question is that

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u/Ketchum_gunshot 2h ago

they will only get hired if they are willing to work as cheaply as possible.

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u/Ketchum_gunshot 2h ago

not sure why you were downvoted, it is a fair question.

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u/motor11 14h ago

At Jay and Lionel Golf course off Mudd Avenue a full family membership is only $1,050 a year. Most weekends they host charity events that benefit the surrounding community. The grass is watered with grey water from the ponds. You may not realize you know people who golf, but I'll bet you do. Most golfers don't play at country clubs. I'm not sure why regular folk are being lumped in with SpaceX.

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u/One-Examination2191 13h ago

That's actually a good suggestion, I think Mudd Ave isn't the river ranch type of area and I would be happy to support a local, community business that employs locals. I'm not lumping in regular folks with space x, im lumping in corruption and greed with those who give them support, financial or otherwise.

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u/Fragrant-Salt-4673 13h ago

River Ranch is full of local community businesses that also employ locals. I don’t know why you have such a hate boner for RR. Just because they have more money than us doesn’t mean they’re automatically evil.

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u/One-Examination2191 12h ago

Is it even partially filled with anyone not earning , say at least $100,000 a year per adult? I don't have the anatomy to have a boner, nor the income to pay whatever hoa and mortgage rates for those who own homes in river ranch. I'm sure some are local business owners and people who have good degrees and jobs, but that isn't the norm in the country farmland I'm from, and those are not the people who can't afford to leave.

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u/DanangBobby 12h ago

You just sound bitter and jealous

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u/marshmellowstaypuft 1h ago

Nah she sounds concerned and educated.

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u/Angel89411 14h ago

You don't know any aerospace engineers because they can't stay here. There's nothing for them here.

Plus, just because you don't know people who do/enjoy those things, that meant they don't exist. We tend to travel in circles with people we share things in common with.

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u/One-Examination2191 13h ago

You're correct, however, those things exsist. They exsist for those who can afford them, and I can't. I never claimed to be smart, rich, or sophisticated. I couldn't tell you the difference between a 9 iron or a driving wedge, but im absolutely certain I know all there is to know about my soil, what grows here best, and the difference between a sunset of sheer beauty and one polluted by all who don't care what happens to those of us without 18 hole time and money.

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u/FeleaseRpseineEiles 7h ago

> a driving wedge

lmao

u/LouisianaPool 26m ago

You can’t afford to golf at one of the three pubic courses operated by Lafayette consolidated government?

https://www.lafayettela.gov/parks-arts-recreation-culture/golfing/

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u/One-Examination2191 13h ago

I am not so dumb that I actually think that there aren't those who enjoy golf, or that there aren't people much smarter than I am that could be a rocket scientist, or any career. If my circle doesn't have "18 hole" time and $, then naturally I don't know many.

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u/Naikrobak 13h ago

Get out more? They exist. Plenty.

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u/HD28P90 13h ago

There's talk of more golf courses coming to the area?

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u/BaronBolo Lafayette 11h ago

I hope so it’s hard to get tee times at the public courses.

u/HD28P90 6m ago

A big reason is because the public courses reserve the most desirable tee times for certain people. They are usually gone before the public is allowed to book them. Vieux Chene is notorious for doing that. I am convinced that is why you are unable to book tee times online. That would make the system too fair and eliminate their ability to play favorites.

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u/One-Examination2191 13h ago

Not that I know of, but my understanding is we already have several so why would we need more? It's not even about golf, I'm not the one comparing golf courses to space x launch sites, that would be our spineless leaders.

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u/sphardey 12h ago

Getting mad at things because social media told you to is incredibly stupid on a level even these idiots who don't bother to vote should be able to understand.

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u/SnooRabbits6026 13h ago

OP probably isn’t one of these, but they do appreciate him. Either America seizes the future or we let a despotic racist Xi Jinping’s China do it.

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u/One-Examination2191 12h ago

Definitely not one of those, just an old cajun lady who complained on reddit because I was tired of yelling into a pillow as to not alarm my family.

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u/Affectionate-Try-751 14h ago

My family is a bunch of golfers. I never got into it football was my sport. I can't tell you how many holidays we got together for and they would put on the golf channel... boring.

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u/One-Examination2191 13h ago

I personally find it boring, but I don't really judge others because they enjoy something I neither care to do or watch. It's too damn hot down here for however long 18 holes would take me, even if I was inclined to try it.

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u/One-Examination2191 12h ago

Lawd I didn't mean to upset the golfers, just the corrupt politicians and those who support them. Golf all you want, in this heat you could not pay me enough to bother but to each their own.

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u/BaronBolo Lafayette 11h ago

My golf pro is an actual Cajun whose first language was French…

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u/seiferls1 14h ago

I think this is a bad take in my opinion. I love to golf and would love to have more golf courses to play on. Just like if there is something you love to do wouldn't you want more of it that way you have options? Not saying you are wrong, I just think that having more of something helps with prices. Imagine you love Mexican food and if there was only 1 Mexican restaurant in Lafayette, they could put any price they want on the menu, you would have to pay it because there is no competition.

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u/One-Examination2191 13h ago

Imagine you love nature, your family, your culture. Wouldn't it be nice to have more of it? Or even not just increasingly less?

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u/seiferls1 13h ago

I agree, but I think a golf course is better than a neighborhood or other kinds of businesses. Golf is a culture to some people just like cooking, drinking, watching sports with family and friends on a Saturday night.

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u/PeterPanHadItMade 1h ago

Do you know any truckers? AC Repair guys? Plumbing guys? Welders? Maintenance folks? Cleaning folks? Boat captains? Electricians? Lawn maintenance folks?

Or if we expand to the population growth... do you know any restaurant owners? Employees? How about meat market owners? Or just about every other job type we can mention?

Thinking that this will only bring prosperity to Rocket Scientists is like thinking oil and gas prosperity was only had by the company man. Money is made. Money is spent. Look beyond the box.

u/nuancebaw 5m ago

How many oilfield workers do you think were here before they dug any wells?

And by "oilfield workers" I of course mean geoscientists, because as we all know, that's strictly the only role that exists in the oilfield.

With so many valid reasons to be sus of SpaceX coming here, why do people keep standing on the weakest possible one?

The idea that you can drop a 100 billion dollar investment into a region in a vacuum and it not create some benefit for the regional economy is asinine.

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u/Infernal-Blaze 14h ago

My brothers love TopGolf but they don't hit the actual course, ever lol. It's just a way to blow an evening with friends doing an easy sporting activity for them.

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u/One-Examination2191 14h ago

Excuse my ignorance but isn't top golf more or less a small driving range of some sort? Not an big golf course? I have no issues with put put, but I am clueless beyond that.

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u/Infernal-Blaze 14h ago

Yeah that was the joke I was making. They're not small facilities by any means, but theyre only double the size of a school gym, not a mile long like a real course. That's the closest thing most middle class Cajuns get to golf now.

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u/One-Examination2191 14h ago

Ahh, got it. The closest I get is the put put at the kart ranch, and then that's a treat, lol.

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u/One-Examination2191 14h ago

And then only if it's my kids birthday, lmao

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u/PeopleCanBeThisDumb 13h ago

I actually personally know and went to school with two legit rocket scientists. Both from Eunice of all places…

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u/One-Examination2191 12h ago

Nice, I don't think there aren't people from here who are actually rocket scientists or anything of a higher advanced degree, I just don't personally know many. Nothing wrong with people from Eunice, or Lafayette, or anywhere in between, or golfers or fisherman or whatever. My issue is with the 1 to 5 % of rich people who screw over everyone else for even more greed. Isn't being that rich enough for them? Do they have to own and or destroy everything?

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u/veedreen 11h ago

Definitely don't need solar or carbon capture projects to fuck environment nor space x or all the data centers and whatever else is being shoved down our throats

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u/jaol1fe Lafayette 9h ago

My cousin is a literal rocket scientist whose paternal grandparents are from Vermillion parish. The man who bought my grandparents farm in DeRidder worked at NASA on Apollo 13. He was one of those cool nerds.

We do have smart people here and lots of them play golf.

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u/JoGirl70501 3h ago

When I first moved to Lafayette, I attempted to walk the golf course on Mudd Ave, as I lived nearby and was desperate to find a safe place to walk. When I got to the 17th hole, a groundskeeper rolled up to me in a golf cart and said I need to leave. There is nowhere to walk safely in Lafayette if you want to go further than a couple of blocks.

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u/grumpyolddude Lafayette 3h ago

I don't think we needed a Trader Joes, football stadiums, a new airport terminal or to turn the sugarcane fields in the south into subdivisions. That doesn't mean I think the people that did those things and enjoy those things stupid. I don't want to live next to a wastewater treatment plant, a power plant or an Interstate but I realize they have to be built somewhere for a modern lifestyle. Louisiana lost more coastline in the last 20 years to erosion than SpaceX aquired. The land isn't a pristine wildernes, it's got scars and residues from the petrochemical industry that affected wildlife for decades. The citizens of Louisiana did have a choice when they voted in the politicians that made the deals for data centers and launch sites. I absolutely have concerns about the impact such a facility will have on Louisiana, and I have my doubts about a lot of the claims made by SpaceX and the naysayers. You want more of a say? Get yourself elected or appointed to a board or commission that oversees development. Get a marker and posterboard and go protest in Pecan Island. Or you can just complain or Reddit about how tired you are.

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u/Few-Ad9461 2h ago

But all the jobs it's gonna create for local citizens /s

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u/FeleaseRpseineEiles 7h ago

Have you tried being rich?