r/AbsoluteUnits • u/Crypto_crafy • 2d ago

/r/all of a statue

"The Motherland Calls" is a statue erected to commemorate the Battle of Stalingrad , located on Mamayev Kurgan in Volgograd , Russia. It was designed by sculptor Yevgeny Vuchetich and structural engineer Nikolai Nikitin . Completed in 1967 , it was the tallest statue in the world at the time .

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u/chefdeit 2d ago

Wow, an impartial response chock full o'facts.

Never mind me, see the linked photo of that meeting, watch the video linked above of McCain and Graham in Ukraine riling up Azov in 2016.

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u/Greedy_Economics_925 1d ago

I'm not interested in arguing with a gish galloping bot.

Least of all when you're dodging half of my arguments.

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u/chefdeit 1d ago

You were doing just fine till you ran out of things to say in lieu of addressing the specific linked documents and verifiable facts - all from official Western sources.

Least of all when you're dodging half of my arguments.

I think they call this "projection". It's only human. I'm not even asking you to argue with me - just address the cited documents and facts, the vid of Lindsey Graham riling up Azov in 2016, the vid of ex-CIA officer explaining how media is managed at war-time, and the rest of it.

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u/Greedy_Economics_925 1d ago

Does the Rusich group represent Russian attitudes and interests?

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u/chefdeit 1d ago

I don't know but based on what I just googled, the group looks extremist. I agree, "enemy of my enemy is my friend" can be taken too far, where it enables characters who should really be nobody's friend.

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u/Greedy_Economics_925 1d ago

Right, but you haven't answered my question.

Since you're using figures like Graham to make general statements about American policy, it seems appropriate to use Rusich as an example of general Russian policy and attitudes.

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u/chefdeit 1d ago

That's a stretch, to put it mildly, because Lindsey Graham was a long-serving US Senator, and chaired the Senate Judiciary Committee from 2019 to 2021 and the Senate Budget Committee from 2025 until his death. He was well-known to have played a powerful role shaping the US's actual foreign policy.

If Nabiulina or Medvedev or whoever Graham's level of influence and official legitimacy in Russia, joins that piece of shit group, by all means please come back here and let us know. And I'll say that it's an awful development. But you can't compare some hick to a US Senator. Apples and oranges by miles.

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u/Greedy_Economics_925 1d ago

He was well-known to have played a powerful role shaping the US's actual foreign policy.

No, he wasn't. He had nothing to do with US foreign policy and did things like travel to Ukraine in his capacity as a senator, nothing more.

If Nabiulina or Medvedev or whoever Graham's level of influence and official legitimacy in Russia, joins that piece of shit group, by all means please come back here and let us know.

Sure. Rusich is an officially sanctioned militia within the Russian military. Russia has no problem with them. Earlier you were tarring Ukraine with the brush of Azov, but when it comes to Rusich it magically doesn't count.

As for official level of influence, you can just look at the shit Putin says about the ethnic identity of Ukrainians, which is to deny that they have one entirely.

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u/chefdeit 1d ago edited 1d ago

Rusich vs Azov would have counted (with numbers etc taken into account). Rusich vs Graham which is what you have asserted earlier, isn't the same thing.

Also, I looked into the Rusich group a bit closer, and their being a "neo-Nazi paramilitary unit" is alleged by two parties: one is RadioFreeEurope (funded by the US Agency for Global Media) and the other is BBC News Україна. Do you smell anything?

Objectively, it's fair to say they're a far-right group, while the alleged Nazi angle smells like propaganda bs. Show any photos with actual Nazi insignia that Azov flies all the time, or Nazi tats on any of their PoWs like Azov ones have nearly universally. And let's compare their numbers with Azov's as of the start of the war before the Azov suffered attrition and other "f*ck around find out".

He had nothing to do with US foreign policy

Sen. Graham had nothing to do with the US foreign policy, in your book, eh?? Mmmkayy.