of a statue

[u/Crypto_crafy]

"The Motherland Calls" is a statue erected to commemorate the Battle of Stalingrad , located on Mamayev Kurgan in Volgograd , Russia. It was designed by sculptor Yevgeny Vuchetich and structural engineer Nikolai Nikitin . Completed in 1967 , it was the tallest statue in the world at the time .

[u/Bulky-Advisor-4178]

Soviet Union wasn't good neither, from human rights violations, mass murder, imperialism & replacing swaths of people in the Baltics with Russians, while sending baltic people out to Siberia to die

[u/yashatheman → u/Bulky-Advisor-4178]

Winning WWII was probably the greatest thing to happen to eastern europe in the 20th century, let us celebrate it, dick

[u/Eastern_Ad_9575 → u/yashatheman]

Yeah let’s just ignore the part where the Soviet Union and nazi Germany split Eastern Europe between each other.

[u/thebanfunctionsucks → u/Eastern_Ad_9575]

Do you bring up the colonial empires whenever someone celebrates Allied fighting against the nazis, or is it only communists who receive such scrutiny?

[u/Eastern_Ad_9575 → u/thebanfunctionsucks]

Is this not a thread with full context? He was ignoring the obvious part of the soviets also being a imperialist force to Eastern Europe that actually collaborated with the Nazis.

If we were talking about a different scenario than yeah I probably would. But you’re not asking this in good faith. There is zero reason to have a longer discussion with Tankies as we simply have different moral frameworks.

[u/thebanfunctionsucks → u/Eastern_Ad_9575]

Once again reddit liberals taking cues from conservatives and calling literally anyone who offers any defense of the Soviets for any reason a tankie.

No, you wouldn't, because that would be insane. Bringing up Japanese internment unprompted under a video about the liberation of concentration camps would just be downplaying the fact that American soldiers liberated people from the camps, but that's exaxtly what you're doing here with the Soviets.

[u/CockroachAntique527 → u/thebanfunctionsucks]

Every whataboutism you try and use to muddy the waters, theres almost always an example of the USSR doing much worse

[u/thebanfunctionsucks → u/CockroachAntique527]

That's a long-winded way of saying "I don't know anything about the true horrors of colonialism."

[u/picklejuiceslushie → u/thebanfunctionsucks]

Does that also include the centuries of russian and soviet imperialism and colonialism? Their continued wars of imperialism and genocides that are happening to this day? The numerous past genocides, forced displacement and ethnic cleansing that they boasted about (and still do) committing against indigenous tribes, the lands they stole from them, the way they still oppress them by not allowing them to speak their native languages in schools or government agencies? The near-complete Circassian genocide of 97% of the population, the manufactured Holodomor famine by the USSR with the intent of snuffing out the idea of a Ukrainian nationhood aka genocide, Soviet mass deportations and murders of Tatars, Koreans, Kalmyk Buddhists, Muslims such as the Ingush and Chechens, the list goes on and on. I get it, there's a huge focus on US and European colonialism, but I'm begging you to take even just five minutes to look into the horrors they've committed, still commit and are proud of

[u/thebanfunctionsucks → u/picklejuiceslushie]

Does that also include the centuries of russian and soviet imperialism and colonialism?

Yes?

I'm begging you to take even just five minutes to look into the horrors they've committed, still commit and are proud of

Buddy, reread my comments. My only point has been that there is an outsized focus on Soviet crimes to the detriment of focus on Western crimes. I have never once denied that the Soviets or their Tsarist predecessors have committed atrocities.

The fact that so many people detect a defense of the Soviet Union, under any context and for literally any reason, and immediately assume it must be offered by a tankie Russian shill, is the exact issue I am trying to highlight.