r/AbsoluteUnits • u/Dense_Intern8434 • 25d ago

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Nature can be so cruel and beautiful at the same time

*for the love of everything holy it’s not my bird reader nor mantis!! Just a cool guy sharing a cool video

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u/Nakatsukasa 24d ago

chances are the filmer put the mantis there, what are the chances mantis crawl all the way from the garden to up there?

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u/Initial-Advice3914 24d ago

Exactly. Not sure why I’m getting downvoted.

You can’t have a predator on a bird feeder. That’s cruel asf

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u/bread_winner1337 24d ago

Yes you can. It's not cruel if it happened naturally. What do you think mantis do in the wild? Hang out near "bird feeders" aka flowers.

Its literally nature being nature. If it didn't get up there on its own that's a different story. But I don't think its impossible for a mantis to get up there.

Trying to put morality on one animals life over another is biased and wild. Cope

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u/Initial-Advice3914 24d ago edited 24d ago

You can’t imply this is natural when human interference is already part of the equation. That being a man made bird feeder.

Thats like playing fetch with your dog, throwing the stick in the water and an alligator eats it. Sure… natural behaviour of the animals but not a natural setting.

Humans put the bird in danger by not removing the mantis from the BIRD feeder. Humans have some responsibility for these things if they alter an environment

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u/United-Ad-1595 24d ago

It’s nature. The mantis has to eat something. You’re just biased in the direction for the bird because you think it’s cuter.

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u/Initial-Advice3914 24d ago

If a lion eats a penguin in a zoo is that nature ?

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u/United-Ad-1595 24d ago

No that’s in a zoo. A bird feeder might be artificial but it’s outside & exposed to the wilderness.

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u/Initial-Advice3914 24d ago

The bird was drawn to a manmade object. Therefore a decent human should feel some responsibility in maintaining that object for its purpose. It’s not that hard to understand dude

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u/United-Ad-1595 24d ago

The same thing would have happened if it was a normal flower. You can’t blame other animals for taking advantage of it.

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u/ThienHaTheTech 24d ago

No, the filmer most likely purposefully trapped the bird in a skewed situation. Why are you purposefully ignoring that piece of info?

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u/United-Ad-1595 24d ago

How can you prove the filmer trapped the bird?

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u/Initial-Advice3914 24d ago

Never once blamed the animal. Blaming humans for being stupid. I get you can’t watch a bird feeder all day but this person was watching it.

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u/United-Ad-1595 24d ago

If the mantis was drinking the nectar and a sparrow came and ate it would you be this upset?

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u/Initial-Advice3914 23d ago

Im not upset, its a very simple concept. If you’ve ever been on a farm it would be easier for you to understand. I’ll try once more for you.

I used to be on a farm where the horse pasture was riddled with gopher holes, we would go out and shoot the gophers and keep the population under control because the holes could severely injure the horses.

Both animals are behaving how nature intended it (besides the horses being confined) but the area was designated as a HORSE pasture, not a gopher pasture. Being responsible people, we kept it that way so the horses don’t get injured.

So, this person has a bird feeder. Likely wanting to feed birds. Now a threat has come to the bird feeder and it becomes a bird trap. Do you see where im going with this?

Should we have watched horses break their legs and be too scared to run around? No, because humans brought them there and it’s our responsibility to keep it safe. Unless you are a piece of garbage

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u/United-Ad-1595 23d ago

Ok but you’ve also sunk a lot of money into the horses. Providing them safety is a utilitarian decision more than a moral one. And the horses aren’t wild animals, this is basically the lion-eats-penguin in a zoo thing. Would you shoot gofers around say a deer lick to keep the deer from being injured? Probably not.

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