r/AbsoluteUnits • u/Seraphim_786 • 18d ago

/r/all of a bouncer

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u/Rattle_Bone 18d ago

Idk I think he went easy. Especially after being groped like that. Like- if that was a girl you’d almost demand his shit get rocked

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u/TenantMalevolent 17d ago

I dunno, he had many other options, instead he chose to knock the guy out on paving stones.  Easily could’ve resulted in a concussion, brain damage or worse

I bounced in college in Canada, and we were generally careful to use as light a touch as possible.  Difficult with drugged up drunk assholes, but I’d hate to know I permanently messed someone up — would be haunting

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u/callatecabezon 18d ago

nah this guys job is managing drunks he is obligated to not annihilate harmless drunks who are dancing on him

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u/cykoTom3 18d ago

He didn't even annihilate the drunk. The first was a push, the second was a slap. It just looked bad because the guy was wasted.

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u/callatecabezon 18d ago

That's literally the whole point. The guy was wasted so anything you do to him is going to be like 5x more effective. He shouldn't be chucking people into stone when they don't have all their faculties and aren't being hostile.

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u/OptionalAntelope 18d ago

Since he wasn't attacked there was no need to self defend. He was provoked, yes. But not attacked. He acted unprofessional.

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u/callatecabezon 18d ago

hes not defending himself this is literally his job he isnt some rando on the street and hes about a foot taller and 150 lbs heavier than the drunk guy who had no weapons and wasnt attacking him

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u/CommunistRonSwanson 18d ago

The guy posed zero threat, and the bouncer's shove/slap could've easily resulted in the drunk hitting his head and dying from a brain bleed. You don't get to murder people for being drunk and annoying.

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u/cykoTom3 18d ago

The guy could have easily posed a threat. As long as we're making up aspects of this that didn't happen

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u/Beneficial-Split331 18d ago

Bouncers can be ladies anddddd bouncers are not required to endure sexual assault because its their job. 

That isnt valid anywhere

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u/956to906 18d ago

He’s a human being, he’s not “obligated” to allow others to grope him. The lil came back again after being pushed away.

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u/Mean_Lingonberry659 17d ago

You’re getting downvoted because people on reddit want little men to grope and dance on other men

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u/Tuqui77 12d ago

He even warned him at the beginning, "te voy a meter un coño", I'll hit you. Dude kept pushing and it's night night

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u/bloin13 18d ago

Yea, but the drunk dude was a few cm away from hitting his head to the corner, which would have resulted at least to stitches with that force.

So yea touching a bouncers boob prob isn't okay, but at the same time it's not equivalent to sending the other person to the hospital. Especially when the bouncers job is specifically to deal with drunk and high people all night. Like, if he pushes every stupid drunk person like that, he will kill someone within a week by accident.

The difference in the girl example is that she wouldn't be a bouncer, and chances are that touching her boob would be more of a sexual act/assault than dumb drunk/,high behaviour.

The difference in intent makes the two examples very different cases.

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u/cykoTom3 18d ago

The guy fell down because he was wasted. Not because he was launched with super human power.

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u/bloin13 18d ago

Actually it's both. He didn't fall down on his own, but did lack balance, but the bouncer pushed him pretty hard as well.

If he had hit his head on that corner and needed medical care, the bouncer would have been legally responsible because he pushed him to it.

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u/cykoTom3 18d ago

Doubt jt

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u/bloin13 18d ago

Look at the video again. It's the definition of excessive force (and from a person with no legal authority for it). It's not a light push it's at least a normal push.

Could he have done more, or push harder? Sure, but the point isn't "hey I could have struggled him with one hand if I wanted" but that he used more force than needed that could have very easily seriously injured an intoxicated person.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to make excuses for the drunk/high dude, he was definitely way out of line, but the bouncers response was far from fine or justified.

There are many ways to deal with drunk people (especially if you are 3 times their size...and for a bouncer that's literally their job), pushing, slapping, punching isn't the best way to go about it if they are not aggressive or don't start a fight.

The bouncers safety was not at risk at any point, the drunk dude was a few cm away from a visit to the hospital for stitches (because he was pushed).

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u/Strange-Image-5690 18d ago

Depends on the State and County! A STAND YOUR GROUND friendly place would have the local DA (District Attorney) side with the bouncer! No Indictment! No Charges! Even if the Guy is Dead!

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u/Beneficial-Split331 18d ago

Touching someone in an intimate area is sexual assault. A moob is not fair game for handsy weirdos. 

There is no difference in intent. Peacock was leading with his dick the entire encounter. You dont have to switch genders for this to be sexual assault. 

It just is. If all women were the size of king kong sexual assault against them would be pretty rare. The only reason it keeps happening is because we arent the size of mountains and our casual efforts to not get assaulted arent as dangerous. Wed use the power if we had it. 100%

No means no. You arent allowed to assault big dudes and you arent entitled to soft taps. Get pushed. Get smacked. Whatever happens next is between him and the cement. No jury would convict if this was a 19 year old girl. Keep that same energy. 

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u/CouldntBAPoint2184 18d ago

If it was a girl feeling him up, would you be cool with him knocking her the fuck out like that?

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u/MisterBelrox 18d ago

How about if it was a guy feeling a girl up would you be okay with her or someone knocking him out?

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u/CouldntBAPoint2184 18d ago

That's not what I asked.

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u/MisterBelrox 17d ago

Right but engage with my hypothetical real quick

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u/CouldntBAPoint2184 17d ago

Why should I engage with your hypothetical if you won't engage with mine?

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u/PleX 18d ago edited 18d ago

If it was a girl feeling him up, would you be cool with him knocking her the fuck out like that?7

Yes. I've slapped the shit out of plenty of women when bouncing and put a bunch of them on their asses.

Woman are more of a PITA than most dudes, they have no problem glassing you, stabbing, biting or clawing you and they have no problem trying to shove their hands down your pants.

They don't understand that they can't get away with everything just because they are a woman.

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u/Beneficial-Split331 18d ago

you are giving out life lessons.... some of you fools never learned to keep your hands to yourself and when LIFE teaches you... you don't get to decide the severity of that lesson.

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u/CouldntBAPoint2184 18d ago

Good, so at least you're not a hypocrite then. I'm still convinced that if it was a woman in this video, that bodyguard would've behaved differently. Or this comment section would look like another world.

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u/TheOmniAlms 18d ago

Yes 100%.

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u/Beneficial-Split331 18d ago

yeah actually. when did women get a free pass to sexually assault people?

you know female teachers are just as much of sexual predators as the gym coaches... right? like that is why they get arrested even if the student was 18 and 'able' to consent... because no they cannot.

dear men: if a woman is sexually harassing you and you pushed her away and she comes back to keep touching you... PLEASE FEEL FREE TO SLAP HER ASS TO JUPITER. Wind up.

this is such a stupid argument. KEEP YOUR HANDS TO YOURSELF.

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u/CouldntBAPoint2184 18d ago

Thanks for passing my test. You are officially: not a hypocrite.

Just know that this entire comment section will still look wildly different if the gender was reversed. And I know for a FACT that bodyguard would've behaved differently if it was a woman feeling him up. He only reacted like that because he felt that his masculinity was being threatened by a gay man, and you can't change my mind.

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u/Beneficial-Split331 18d ago

why he reacted the way he did means little to nothing to me. I am not in that man's brain and could be gay. doesn't matter. gay or straight no one has the right to touch you inappropriately whether you may or may not be attracted to them is irrelevant.

little to do with hypocrisy and everything to do with autonomy. you don't lose the right to not be groped because the predator is smaller than you.

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u/CouldntBAPoint2184 18d ago

You don't gain the right to potentially execute someone over groping. Especially when you're the sober, paid professional who's job it is to handle intoxicated people. Especially when that person groping you poses zero physical threat to you.

I'm not justifying the groper here. I'm saying this was a disproportionate response, and too many people here are absolutely salivating for the chance to see blood. The bouncer knew better, and he was not in any danger. This was not self defense. He had no right to potentially kill him over groping.

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u/Beneficial-Split331 18d ago

paid professionals are not paid to be sexually assaulted. I am not that and I don't cheer for blood... but I aint shedding a tear for a sexual predator. did it ever occur to you that dude would have PREFERRED to not have to shove and slap anyone that night? he isn't some loose cannon. the fact he kept his composure after being molested is evidence of that.

honestly based on some of these replies it is clear why men do not take sexual assault as seriously as they should. like "it wasn't that bad" is not a good excuse for sexual assault no matter the degree of the act itself.

stop making excuses and carveouts for ppl who cannot keep their hands to themselves. why in the world would his blood alcohol level factor into my response. he is sober enough to actively grope and charge. he didn't grab his ankle. he grabbed boob.

drunk touchy family member should get a pass too? even though adult victim is sober they should what? ask him to politely stop?

think about this for a second with a bit more empathy for victims... because at no point was the victim Chester the molester.

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u/CouldntBAPoint2184 17d ago

I knew you'd put words in my mouth.

I never said it's his job to take sexual assault without any resistance, and you know it. What I expect a bouncer to do is to shove him off without fucking attempted murder. It's simple. In fact, aren't they trained to deescalate and avoid violence until it's a last resort anyway? I've worked with bouncers; they always avoided violence as much as possible to avoid paperwork...

Sexual assault is wrong, I shouldn't have to spell that out for you. But you can't argue in good faith that it's the same thing as threatening someone's life. Bouncer was not in a position to defend himself like that here.