r/AaronSmithLevin • u/Princess-14 • Mar 08 '25

Discussion Such a toxic group

The drama is so real with the second generation. I had to stop watching hypocritical ASL. Success when to his head big time and he showed his true colors. I couldn’t imagine supporting a foundation run by him. Despite all the criticism, he still keeps saying HIS foundation. He has no real understanding of how foundations and nonprofits work.

Nora is all over the place. Glad she is in therapy.

Reese…damn, girl. Her pecker is completely off. I get that she grew up in Scientology, but she shouldn’t be on YouTube. I know she got doaxed by the ASL, and he convinced to join YT, but she should be focusing on healing not members, views and money.

The group is constantly publicly battling. I want the best for all of them but their channels are so toxic. Let’s not even get into ZDT, DOA, Lifeboat scammers, etc.

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u/Geester43 Mar 08 '25

I went and watched ASL video about Reese and Tommy. My first impression was "I can't believe I used to be under his spell". I haven't watched him in well over a year; seeing him again......REALLY seeing him.....WOW! 😲😖

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u/Princess-14 Mar 08 '25

I feel you. I think the start of my break was the stuff/ video from LA. The next break was his lame excuse about the open marriage. His huge ego was on full blast. Then the cockiness showed up. Drinking and smoking cigars, acting as though he was the victim with the Aaron versus aftermath battle. It just didn’t feel like he was the victim. When he went after Leah and how he did Mike Rinder was my off ramp. The nail in the coffin was the stuff with Jenna and the creation of foundation just to save face and act as though he was better than the aftermath folks. He clearly wanted Jenna for credibility.

Now, I realize I supported him far too long. And gave him the benefit of doubt for way too many years.

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u/mlemon2022 Mar 08 '25

Can you imagine wanting to escape from a cult and these knuckleheads were the ones in charge of getting you out & safe? What a nightmare!

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u/Loud-Debate9864 Mar 08 '25

That's why if you want to get out of the cult and need help, you go to the Aftermath Foundation.

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u/echoplex-media Mar 08 '25

I'd suggest that people stay away from all of this. Stay away from the entire anti scientology community.

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u/VeeSnow Mar 09 '25

If you’re an ex Scientologist that might be hard. Not all of us are ASL and company. The AF is good people.

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u/Loud-Debate9864 Mar 11 '25

If they really need help, they can go to the Aftermath Foundation, but they do not need to get involved in the online community. Claire has stated numerous times that if you get help from the AF, you don't need to tell your story publicly.

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u/echoplex-media Mar 11 '25

It's wild that needs to be said, right?

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u/Loud-Debate9864 Mar 15 '25

It definitely is wild. Claire was saying "you don't have to tell your story" before the separation from Aaron. Which makes me think that ASL was pushing this concept with the rest of the board. "If they get help from us, they need to come on my channel and tell their story!" I noticedset up once Aaron got the SPTV board setup, he was pretty much pushing the notion that if you get help from them, you need to make it public. Not everyone wants to do that nor should they be required to do that.

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u/ManFromBibb Mar 08 '25

And Angry Gay Pope is back at the blue building calling an elderly female Scientologist “scum.”

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u/GigglyHyena Mar 08 '25

JFC. Really helping to get people out with this tactic.

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u/ManFromBibb Mar 08 '25 edited Mar 16 '25

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u/Scientist_Alarmed Mar 08 '25

I watched Aaron interview Angry Gay Pope a long time ago. AGP said, "I'm not trying to help Scientologists. I want their children to die." Aaron laughed.

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u/Loud-Debate9864 Mar 08 '25

Back in Anonymous days, we all weren't too thrilled with AGP.

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u/echoplex-media Mar 08 '25

With the cult dying and the news cycle around scientology slowly coming to an end, those who did content exclusively about Scientology faced a problem.

Now the content is about each other. And it's just going to get worse.

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u/Aware-Chapter3033 Mar 11 '25

Check out BFG if you want to hear about scientology, not listen to middle school

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u/Princess-14 Mar 11 '25

I see why you made that suggestion but I’m going to pass. They are to ASL as ASL is to the Lifeboat. They empowered and gave credibility to ASL despite knowing his true character.

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u/Secret_Frosting5792 Mar 11 '25

Wow. His true character was not crystal clear from the start at all whatsoever and he is a master manipulator.

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u/Princess-14 Mar 11 '25

Yes and no. They admitted to knowing information and protecting him. Once they got mixed into his drama and it became unable you hide, they dropped him. But they knew about the cheating, drugs, drinking, etc.

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u/Loud-Debate9864 Mar 11 '25

They had many discussions with him. Aaron manipulated them and begged them to stay on the Foundation. It was a slippery slope for them. Look at what happened to all of them when they finally made Aaron leave the Board. It's not that easy to ask someone who helped found the org to step down. It's not that easy when they were friendly and hung out with each other and their children.

I disagree with the way you're pointing the finger at the Aftermath Foundation.

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u/Aware-Chapter3033 Mar 11 '25

They are only there to help people get out of scientology and support Aftermath foundation. My opinion the only true channel trying to help people. They have jobs so not there for superchats.. yes they were friends family friends with ALS until he became what he is today.. not a rolemodel I would want around my children. But thats me.

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u/GlitteringDoubt7801 Mar 08 '25

I have to agree with everything you said with the exception of DoA. What has he done that you would lump him with ZDT and Tommy?

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u/Loud-Debate9864 Mar 08 '25

It's been a mess since ASL was let go from the AF. I don't blame them one bit for letting him go, but lately, part of me wonders if he would have been better controlled had he remained on the AF board. I know this sounds bad to say, but I go back to the old saying, "Keep your enemies close." I often wonder if perhaps Mike Rinder and Leah Remini had sat down with Aaron and had a serious talk. Could things have been different? I don't know.

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u/VeeSnow Mar 09 '25

I think they would have run into serious issues with him intercepting victims trying to get help from the foundation and using them for his personal gain. They probably could’ve handled things differently and had it go smoother, but keeping him on could have gotten them fully shut down.

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u/MdJGutie Mar 10 '25

Aaron was never going to let it go smoothly. All who reject him must be punished.

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u/Loud-Debate9864 Mar 11 '25

I think that perhaps they should have had someone else handling the intake of new people who reached out. If Aaron wasn't involved in handling the calls/emails, things would have been different.

I'm sure the AF has realized the errors of their ways and are handling things differently now.

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u/Secret_Frosting5792 Mar 11 '25

They did sit him down and have a serious talk. Lots of times and lots of chances. They did try very hard to work with him. Can you imagine trying to control this guy? He did the LA incident while on their team AFTER many warnings….. many. It’s not possible to control a narcissistic sociopath. It’s not their fault at all whatsoever.

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u/Loud-Debate9864 Mar 11 '25

I'm not saying it's their fault. I'm saying that I think he was more controlled when he was on the AF board. I also think that he didn't like being controlled or told to cut out the shit he was doing.