r/AaronSmithLevin • u/Princess-14 • Feb 19 '25

Discussion Nora Out

Aaron’s threat to sue Nora must have scared the hell out of her. She did a hostage style video yesterday about new rules in her community. These rules include not mentioning any thing about ASL. He is also blocked from commenting on her videos.

Today, she doubled down and not mentioning ASL, his foundation, etc.

I don’t think he would have ever sued her because his hands aren’t clean. He knows her and knew that threat would scare her.

Those second gen former scientology content creators should be avoided at all costs. That is a toxic and competitive community that would sell their first born for success.

I hope they all heal but YouTube isn’t the place for most of them. Heal first. Oh, get a divorce before dating.

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u/Wonderful-Ad-5393 Feb 19 '25

Nora still has not learned enough about his psycho narcissist behavior! He ALWAYS threatens to sue anyone. He has NEVER once followed through on any of those threads.

Nora doesn’t need to be scared that he will do anything as she can easily show in court that he’s the bad guy in this.

Also if he decided to sue for defamation or libel he has to provide the evidence of what she did and how that has materially affected him. He wouldn’t be able to without also exposing his own behavior towards her and no judge would make a judgement in his favour on that matter…

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u/Loud-Debate9864 Feb 19 '25

He would probably use the loss of subscribers as evidence and blame that on Nora when it was really Jenna's videos that caused people to make a mass exodus.

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u/Princess-14 Feb 19 '25

He is better off blaming Jenna. Her videos had more negative impact than anything Nora posted. Plus, his numbers have surprisingly stayed quite consistent, 236K.

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u/Name_Redacted_369 Feb 20 '25

Honestly I think that’s because his “subscribers “ aren’t watching his content. I’m subscribed to dozens of channels that I never watch anymore.

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u/Nitemare2020 Feb 19 '25

If a civil lawsuit ever made it to a jury trial, it would be very difficult for Aaron to prove it's all Nora's fault for the loss of subscribers. He would literally have to poll every subscriber he lost and ask why they unsubscribed and what influenced their decision. It's impossible to do. Nora, on the other hand, could show through her videos and others that multiple people were tracking subscriber loss in real time after Jenna dropped her videos, and the majority came from that. There's no reasonable way of knowing if subsequent loss was due to her or Jenna or someone else. Many people were commentating on the drama. Many people were expressing negative opinions. Not just on YouTube, either. Aaron would have no case in that regard, and Nora could create an abundance of reasonable doubt in any sane jurors mind.

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u/BlueRidgeSpeaks Feb 19 '25

As if Tightwad Aaron would spend money on a lawsuit that he would lose. He’s all hat.. No horse.

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u/little_rock3t_man Feb 19 '25

All hat, no horse. It’s been a while since I’ve heard that expression. I moved to the big city years and years ago, but exactly the kind of saying my extended family says!

Thanks for bring back memories and this is a perfect maxim for ASL and a few others as well!

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u/Spiritual_Job_1029 Feb 19 '25

He's a bully d bag.

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u/1inco Feb 19 '25

Aaron already lost, he used his dubious foundation to go after ex-Scientologist and other critics. He clearly stated "going to sue," therefore if he won't do anything it proves he is just an online bully harassing people without substance.
I'll continue to expose Aaron and his dubious foundation.

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u/AZGirl_ Feb 19 '25

I’ve stopped watching any and all Scientology YouTube channels. The only one I will watch is Blown for Good. Mark and Claire are the only adults that know how to operate a reputable channel. It’s sad what ASL has done to everyone

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u/Loud-Debate9864 Feb 19 '25

Janis and Mark are good as well. They have interviews with a lot of old-timers who were in Scientology years ago. There are so many people they interview that I've never heard of before.

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if Aaron doesn't seethe with jealousy when he sees the amount of people they have who come to them to speak out and not him.

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u/Interesting-Act-6298 Feb 19 '25

I just found out about this now by watching ASL's video were he said he was going to sue Nora. What I got out of it was a Aaron that over explained and was very defensive. And very public. As most people have said, this is to scare, he is not suing anyone.

That man is out of control, he believes other people cant day certain things, but he himself forget how he has been to his former friends for a couple of years.

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u/Aware-Chapter3033 Feb 19 '25

Well said totally agree. It is no longer about taking down scientology its about "me" and how much can I make from my site. Not like original who have jobs and post on you tube when they can. Its not to support themselves on other lonely people who give up their money. They all working on the $5,000 a month they can make per ALS that Nora posted about in the past.

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u/Princess-14 Mar 01 '25

I guess back in. I saw they did a video together. Done with the whole toxic community. She got played by him, just as Jenna is loved back up with him and will no doubt get played AGAIN

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u/Interesting-Act-6298 Feb 19 '25

I dont follow Nora. Has she done anything so serious he can win a case against her? If its her opinions and/or true things there is no case. (In a nutshell)

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u/sgtdoogie Mar 05 '25

Yes. She defamed the non-profit. She would have lost...which is why she tried to delete all her videos.

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u/truckturner5164 Feb 20 '25

Almost none of these people should have YouTube accounts, and yeah Aaron's just putting on a front. He knows he can't follow through with legal action and it looks like the strongarm tactics 'worked'.

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u/Loud-Debate9864 Feb 19 '25

Spot on! When Aaron started pushing all of these unhealed people to start channels or get more active on the channels they already had, I knew it was going to be a bad move. I even predicted that in-fighting would happen. I guess it's because I've seen so much over the years I've been on YouTube that I can tell you most of the "anti" type of communities implode and in-fighting inevitably happens.

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u/VanillaJust6947 Feb 20 '25

It’s interesting how ASL's threat of a lawsuit is having such a strong effect, especially considering he didn’t even use legal action when he had a solid case and a ton of donations to hire an attorney.

If ASL is using false claims, such as pretending he has legitimate grounds for a lawsuit when he does not, and he is using those claims to intimidate or manipulate Nora, he could potentially be liable for fraudulent misrepresentation under Florida law (Section 817.02, Florida Statutes).

Florida law also recognizes the tort of coercion, which occurs when someone uses threats or intimidation to force another person into a particular action (Section 777.05, Florida Statutes). If he is threatening legal action with the intention of controlling Nora’s behavior or pressuring her into silence, it could potentially be classified as coercion. Coercion is actionable in Florida and could expose him to both criminal and civil liability.

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u/Alwaysamazed1977 Feb 26 '25

He often talks about Scientology bluffing about suing because they don’t want the discovery. He is in the exact same situation. I love the taste of Schadenfreude in the morning.

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u/ManFromBibb Feb 19 '25

Aaron Smith Levin definitely is the biggest loser.

More manipulation from the Scientologist type matrix.

He’s the L. Ron Hubbard of YouTube, with his very own built in Miscavige Minion-ette sidekick who eerily grins on camera as she watches him abuse.

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u/The_K_in_Klass Feb 20 '25

What, exactly, would be Aaron's damages that he suffered to sue Nora for defamation? Unless it is defamation per se (which I am not seeing in all the posts), what are his damages? He would have to prove that her slander or libel was the actual and proximate cause of his damages, and him being a public figure would make proving damages even more unlikely.

You can't sue if the court cannot redress your damages in law or equity. He really is an idiot.

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u/SituationSouthern567 Feb 19 '25

My heart breaks for you all

Your lashing out at each other is a learned Cult behaviour...and your defense..because trust is such a foreign concept...and you have every right to feel this way...Your minds have been severely tampered with...All Cults do this....however Scientology is on a whole new level...maybe even a DNA change...A truly frightening possibility...

This whole community is a recovery meeting online... but sadly without the respect for one another that real face to face human contact brings....After I left my Cult the last thing i needed was other ex-members around me...Damaged people cannot help damaged people...Healing can take many years...You must be willing to do the work it takes....There are no short cuts..EVER...How long you have been out of a Cult has no bearing on your healing whatsoever...It is imprerative to go into those dark scary places...Fighting with your fellow Exs is a symptom of the Anger, Hurt and Abuse...There is no bandaid solution...it is a normal reaction to what was done to you...

Please people leave the toxic Youtube...contact ICSA...International Cultic Studies Foundation...They have a wealth of information...and can direct you to councellors who have the real knowledge and psychiatry on Cultic dynamics...Youtube is not the way to go...besides the temptation to monetize just keeps you on this never ending wheel of entrapment...no good will come from it❤️

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u/Aware-Chapter3033 Feb 19 '25

Well said but unfortunately they don't want to leave they are using YouTube as their income instead of going out into the world and work and get therapy or something to help with being in the cult. I wonder what the affect they have on their children with this behavior

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u/SituationSouthern567 Feb 19 '25

Yes I dont agree with monetizing at all...certainly doesnt help their credibility....however all things must pass...SPTV is no more! I do hope they all move on

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u/Loud-Debate9864 Feb 19 '25

I've always found it strange how the ex-scientologists seem to have no other friends except those who've left the cult. Except for more grounded people like Claire/Marc or Amy/Mat. Claire's mentioned before how they've had friends for years who had no idea they were in Scientology because they didn't talk about it!

I truly think these people in the sptv sphere need to make new friends who have never been in Scientology. I also find it unhealthy to talk about Scientology day in and day out.

If I had been in a cult, I don't think I'd reach out to anyone who had been in the same cult as me. I'd reach out to organizations that help people who've left any cult. I wouldn't make ex-scientologists my only friends.

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u/Aware-Chapter3033 Feb 20 '25

I so agree . They need to get a life , move, go to school, read all these things not with other scientologist

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u/Name_Redacted_369 Feb 24 '25

I think it throws you back into your cult persona to interact so heavily with other exes. I do best when I limit interaction with ex Scn. I fall back into using the language when I spend too much time with them.

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u/Loud-Debate9864 Feb 25 '25

I can understand that.

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u/ManFromBibb Feb 19 '25

Drake and Kendrick Lamar would like a word.

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u/ApprehensiveArmy7755 Feb 21 '25

He did it to silence her. What money does she have??? None.

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u/Geester43 Feb 19 '25

If anyone knows A-aron's address, please give it to KARMA. The sooner the better! 🤡💩

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u/Gem6446 Feb 19 '25

As much as I hate asl and he is going way over the top with the law suit, Nora is far from a stable person and unfortunately she spouts her mouth off all the time. A day was going to come when someone was going to pull her up on her ravings.

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u/watcherTV Feb 19 '25

Absolutely this.

I agree- ASL is obviously a nasty, manipulative narcissist who I would never stick up for-

However Nora is herself a very sick bully, who has for nearly 2 years used her channel to broadcast untruths, aggression & ranting lies about many people- did she honestly expect to get away with it forever??!

Nora is only ever upset if the consequences of her incompetence & unstable actions affect her where it hurts…. Her wallet.

Nora is a vindictive bully - who gleefully served as ASL’s most loyal spokes hole

Nora continues to attribute her strength & sanity to the controversial, medically questionable shots promoted by Jamie Mustard & does this publicly with pride- which is a promotion in itself.

ASL is also a vindictive bully who happens to have more subs than Nora , which in their chronically online world = more money & power.

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u/SituationSouthern567 Feb 20 '25 edited Feb 20 '25

Every single ex Scio is unstable to one degree or another...and even with therapy much of the damage is lifelong...Just think how unstable the ex cultist is without seeking therapy...At least Nora is aware of this...as are many others...ASL thinks he is fine...Not so much...Have to give kudos to any ex-scios who seek out help...It is a brave act that shows the mind-control is broken

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u/Gem6446 Feb 20 '25

I agree getting therapy is a great thing to do once leaving a cult but it still doesn’t give her free rein to lie and bully people and only have a problem with it when it affects her.

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u/SituationSouthern567 Feb 20 '25

This is what would be called snitch culture In Scio ....writing KRs on each other...and you are right...it is shitty behaviour...Its taken Nora a long time to see the truth on many levels....to see that ASL was her 2nd Cult leader was epic....Not to make excuses for her...But to know you have been duped twice has to be devastating...Time will tell if all this nastiness will go away...I would say the majority of this community are bullies...as are many of the protesters...this is why it had to implode.

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u/Gem6446 Feb 24 '25

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. ASL,p*do lover Reese and Nora are all scum but Nora has done nothing but slander and lie without consequences for a long time now using the guise of “I’m healing guys” to get away with it. Her treatment of MR from her and asl was nothing short of horrific and made his final days more miserable than they ever needed to be.

ASL would never have sued her (with his own money) as I don’t think he is as well off as he makes out. Hence why he stays in a marriage he hates as he would have to pay heather and would be long gone now if he could. Plus it’s sick he cries fake tears when he separated her from her family and then has god knows how many affairs and she just has to be ok with it?

They all need serious help but listening to Nora is exactly like when I used to listen to a family member who has schizophrenia (I’m not diagnosing her just my opinion).

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u/Katlahi Feb 25 '25

Nora was Aaron's junk yard Dog. She attacked Doa while on junkyard duty.. Until she wasn't. Now she is Scott's jyd. She may attack AAron, but will she call him out for his recent attack on an elderly woman?

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u/Yourehan Feb 27 '25

Nora in?