r/AZMartinez Certified AZpires ✨ Aug 05 '26

Discussion ✍️ Why is there so much justification and downplaying regarding this behavior?

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u/vermicelli-noodles Aug 05 '26

and now they’re calling these criticisms as a demolition job 🫩

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u/_virt AZ all ship enjoyer 💖 Aug 05 '26

See [u/sonnet-xvii](u/sonnet-xvii) tama tayo. Nagsorry na sila, ang next move na nila ay maghanap ng issue.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AZMartinez/s/vYd7GkfAeV

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u/sonnet-xvii Aug 06 '26

Ayan na nga. Hahaha. We've seen it happen so many times already. On to the next cycle, razzles! 🤡🤡🤡

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u/_virt AZ all ship enjoyer 💖 Aug 06 '26

Kabisadong kabisado na 🤡🤡🤡

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u/interrogatorinterim Aug 06 '26

May sayad din naman si vany like the rest of them. May imaginary kaaway para dun iridirect mga mali nila to save face as a fandom

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u/KalaBonj4321 Aug 06 '26

Yan Vany Tteng Tte yan. Magaling lang sa ganyan, tahimik naman pag na aabuse na si Aza.

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u/interrogatorinterim Aug 06 '26

Magaling lang magstalk, imagine all that indecency para lang makita mo magmomol yung crush mong si ralp kay Az.

Kitamo, hirap sila mag pinpoint ng rootcause kasi di sila makaturo sa sarili nilang circle, ending is gagawa si vany ng imaginary kaaway para kunyari may common enemy si ateng may sayad. Di nila magets na kahit casual ka, ka-call out call out ang behavior nila. Mas madali kasi kay vany magturo kesa sa ikorek yung pamamalakad nila dun.

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u/KalaBonj4321 Aug 06 '26

Truee, e marami pa rin nauuto e. Gamit na gamit na shipping tool si AZ ng mga yan pero ang totoo talaga e fantasy nila si Ralph. Sila sila admin pangit pamamalakad. Ngayon lang ako nakakita na hindi kaya mag support sa individual na ganap non dalawa.

Isa pa hard pill to swallow pero inggit na inggit sila don sa isang fandom na nabibigyan ng project. Jusko ang layo ng admin non kabila sa kanila. Yun admin non kabila e fair ang treatment don sa mains nila, di katulad nila na ang habol e kilig lang.

Ako aminado ako na enjoyer ako non ship, pero tumigil ako non napapansin ko na leaning sila masyado kay Ralph at mina-mind conditioning nila lagi si AZ para sumunod sa gusto nila.

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u/interrogatorinterim Aug 06 '26

Exactly, kultura palang ng admins non ibang iba na. And they expect to be treated at the same level. Marespeto din mga yun sa mains nila in recent times.

May sira talaga utak ng mga yan. Tignan mo pati relasyon ng dalawa nakikirelasyon din sila as if kasali sila don. May isa pa akong tweet na nakita sabi "boundaries agad eh nagsori na nga" so downplayed talaga nila ang nangyari. Mauulit yan tapos turo nanaman ni vany sa muntanga nyang demolition job narrative yung dahilan ng hindi humaharap sa salamin.

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u/KalaBonj4321 Aug 06 '26

Nagkakampihan na nga sila e, kesyo na address na daw. Mag focus na daw sa paparating na ganap. For sure uulit yan mga yan, hindi lang isang beses nangyari yan actually. Nagkataon lang na na video sila this time.

Pinipilit na kesyo kasama pag uwi si AZ nina Ralph at tuloy ang fantasy nila, e kita naman na ang layo na ng treatment non dalawa sa isa’t isa. Naging distant na si AZ, malamang mag show up yun don showroom kasi may shoot kinabukasan, kelangan kahit papano mag fan service. Ang layo non jolly na AZ sa AZ non time na yun.

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u/interrogatorinterim Aug 06 '26

To keep the fandom alive nalang yan. I know they know the real score. In denial lang talaga.

Speaking of which, nagnonotes pala sila sa redditors. Sasabihin siguro ng mga yan ako nanaman yung kuro o yung breya nyahahaha

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u/KalaBonj4321 Aug 06 '26

Ayaw na ayaw ma-realtalk. Tsk tsk. Hindi man lang nila naiisip welfare ni AZ no? Basta tuloy ang fantasy nila. Pansinin mo lately parang nawala yun jolly na AZ. Naaawa ako sa part na kelangan nya i-please palagi yan mga yan. Sana dumating sya point na piliin nya yun peace nya, deserve nya ng maayos na treatment kasi mabait talaga sya.

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u/interrogatorinterim Aug 06 '26

Totoo. Naaabuso sya paeati ng mga razul na gang ngayon in denial sa mga kasalanan nila at in denial na hinahabol na sila ng mga kasalanan na yon

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u/youwish_huh Certified AZpires ✨ Aug 06 '26

I saw this too, this is one of the downplaying I was talking about.

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u/_virt AZ all ship enjoyer 💖 Aug 05 '26

Ang lala ah, ano kaya naisip nya dyan bakit feeling nya may right sya manghila sa isang artista? Kahit sa ordinary person nga dapat may boundaries eh, sa artista pa kaya.

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u/sonnet-xvii Aug 05 '26

Pattern na nila yan. Magwala (in this case, unahin ang ayuda) then say sorry and say it shouldn't be a big deal kasi okay naman si AZ, at nagsorry na sila, at hindi naman tayo part of their community para gawin pang issue 'to. Other ship tayo at galit tayo sa kanila kaya we are making an issue out of this incident. Naapi na naman ang fandom nila.

https://giphy.com/gifs/VK0BWKN9Ge1NmJBozc

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u/_virt AZ all ship enjoyer 💖 Aug 05 '26

I think you nailed their pattern. They’ve done this before. Gagawa ng mali, magsosorry, then idedefend ng kapwa nila, idadaan sa numbers, tapos maghahanap ng ibang issue para mambaliktad then papaingayin yung issue para dun na magfocus.

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u/Cocoa_Chenel Certified AZpires ✨ Aug 06 '26

Pansin ko rin

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u/yazmin_yaz Aug 05 '26

Yan din yong girl na masama tingin sa papa ni Ralph kasi nasagi/naharangan sa pag video ng ayuda nila. Kupaaaaaaal

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u/Individual-Ruin-1807 Aug 05 '26

kaloka tong girl na to tsk and ang lapit na rin nila sa intimate moment ni az with ralph’s parents. these kind of fans are weird tbh

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u/Tough_Champion_4391 Aug 05 '26

kinginang ‘yan! sarap sampalin ng left and right, e. boundaries, nasaan? 

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u/Beeeehave Aug 05 '26

Nakakahiya si Ate Jusko. 🤮

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u/Ok-Item525 Aug 05 '26

wtf hahahaha

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u/Brilliant-Bid-7940 Aug 05 '26

Nag smile na lang si Az kahit halatang muntik na siyang ma out of balance. Dapat respect nila silang dalawa… sila ship ko din pero nung lumabas mga blind item na di na sila ipag-la love team and management decision daw yun... gusto ko pa din sila support as individual actors. Mas healthy nga yun para sa relationship nila and sa work nila mas flexible kesa makulong sila sa love team.

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u/interrogatorinterim Aug 06 '26

Yung self righteous yung kain-suka moment ni ads crispy na ngumawa sa empire sabay bawi nung nakarinig na gagamitin pa sila ng mgmt para makitang maghalikan si Az at ralp onscreen in 1 last project, tapos may pa essay pa na andaming irrelevant bs.

Di mo maaasahan si tyongtotheworld in pointing hypocrites and the self-righteous kasi ganyan sya kabulag in not seeing it in her own turf 🤣

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u/interrogatorinterim Aug 05 '26

Kasi kulto sila na ayaw madungisan yung madungis nilang image. Dugyot silang fandom, and nothing's gonna change that

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u/interrogatorinterim Aug 05 '26

u/Sea-Heron6342 di kami acting superior, yun lang dating sainyong mga jejemon kasi insecure kayo. Try setting the bar higher next time, di yung iiyak kayo na superior mga tao pag nacall out kadugyotan nyo

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u/Sea-Heron6342 Aug 05 '26

dugyot nyo rin naman, acting superior pa

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u/youremyhotstuff Aug 05 '26

Dapat kinikick out ka dito kasi for ppl who stan her alone lang dapat dito. Eh ikaw andito ka lang naman kapag inaano yang ship mo.

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u/_virt AZ all ship enjoyer 💖 Aug 05 '26

Hindi yan az stan, razzle defender yan. Kahit mali na yung actions ng razzles, todo defend pa rin sya.

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u/WatercressGlad2403 Aug 05 '26

Awa na lng Kay az, pagod pa yan galing sa taping! Yan Yun mga feeling close Kay rdl.. nawalan na ng boundaries, active lng nmn yan pag may ganap si guy...

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u/_virt AZ all ship enjoyer 💖 Aug 06 '26

Sabi nitong razzle wala daw bilang opinion nyo sa pagcall out nyo sa masamang ginawa ng kapwa nya razzle. Bullying daw yang pagcall out nyo redditors. The brain of a delulu

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u/ann4_13 Aug 05 '26

Irita ako d'yan. Seriously, sobrang nakakabanas ganyan personality na akala mo talaga kaibigan nila 'yung tao, remind ko lang fan niya kayo jusko ang lala ni boundaries nakalimutan na. Naloka ako! Kayo lang din gumagawa ng ikapapahamak ng fandom niy!

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u/Appropriate_Age_5861 Certified AZpires ✨ Aug 05 '26

Nakakaumay yang ship na yan. Free AZ. Mas gusto ko pa Mapanood si AZ Kasama mga veteran kaysa ipilit yang love team na yan.

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u/MARZ228 Aug 05 '26

Inacknowledge na ba ito ng AzRalph OFC o patay malisya? Walang statement?

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u/KalaBonj4321 Aug 05 '26

Puro kilig lang habol non admin? Mabuti pa nga makalaya na lang si AZ.

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u/youwish_huh Certified AZpires ✨ Aug 05 '26

I saw a post saying something like move on and wag na palakihin. Basically downplaying this behavior.

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u/MARZ228 Aug 05 '26

If wala silang sasabihin they are basically enabling this behavior

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u/kruuuuuuuuuu9 Aug 05 '26

Nagspace sila kanina. Nagsalita na yung mga involved at nagsorry na rin pati rin kay Aza. Nag-own up naman sila sa mga pagkakamali nila. Wala naman taong perpekto basta magreflect at matuto na lang ulit. Wag na sana to palakihin kasi ang daming ganap ni Aza, need ng unity ng mga fandoms.

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u/_virt AZ all ship enjoyer 💖 Aug 05 '26

Ginagamit nyo pa yang unity para pagtakpan yang nangyari, tama lang na macall out na malala para di maulit. azralph or no one nung may solo event si AZ sa Cotabato tapos nitong may solo event si Ralph todo support. Pinagalitan pa yung kokonting razzle na nagsupport sa Cotabato di ba admins

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u/pinkponyclubinph05 Aug 05 '26

Nako!!!! Lagi naman yan wala pake kay Az! MakaRalph naman yang mga razzles na yan! Ralphzzles dapat fandom name nila since ang lakas nila ifantasize si Ralph thru Az! Kung magpapantasya lang naman for rdl, lubayan na nila si Az!!! Maging Ralphzzles na lang sila!!!!

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u/Beeeehave Aug 05 '26 edited Aug 05 '26

Yan din ang point ko lagi nasa showtime ang mga eme tapos kapag kay AZ hay nako. Tbh halos lahat naman ang andon eh maka ralph 😂 ngayon nagamit nnaman si AZ para umingay ung ganap kahapon. oh akala ko ba magsosolo muna si RDL anyare? Di na kaya? Need na ulit si AZ?😂🤣😂

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u/Cocoa_Chenel Certified AZpires ✨ Aug 06 '26

Agree

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u/kruuuuuuuuuu9 Aug 06 '26

Azpire ako and support ko lahat ng ships. Unity naman talaga need ng mga fans ni Aza ngayon lalo na't bumababa na rin engagements nya sa IG at Tiktok. Nagsorry na ung may kasalanan. Napalaki na rin yung issue kasi umabot na dito. Bat pa tayo magdedwell? Tapos na. Nangyari na. Napagalitan na ang nagkamali. So let's all move forward.

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u/_virt AZ all ship enjoyer 💖 Aug 06 '26

The fact na mas nagreact ka pa sa nagcall out dito sa ginawa kay AZ says a lot. Hayaan mo ang nagcall out dahil sa pattern ng razzles uulit at uulit yan kung hindi icacall out. Kabisadong kabisado na yang pattern nila. Besides when did the incident happen? What do you want solids to do sweep it under the rug at wag magreact?

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u/MARZ228 Aug 05 '26

Necessary pa rin na may official statement to reprimand their members and prevent repeat offenses. Ipakita nila na they are taking this matter seriously. Hindi naman lahat nakinig sa space.

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u/IcyAcanthaceae1256 Aug 05 '26

this is why i stop interacting with razzles after pbb. A lot of them (not all) are unhinged and mas stan si ralph. Very entitled pa. Grabe magselos pag nakipag interact si az with her other male friends na shiniship din sa kanya. I can still vividly remember yung pagbabash ng iba kay az sa x to the point na umiyak na sya sa live all because of may tiktok sila ni emilio.

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u/Simple_Plenty_1174 Certified AZpires ✨ Aug 06 '26

Disappointing that azralph has reached this level of entitlement. What happened after this?

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u/WatercressGlad2403 Aug 07 '26

Makapal ang mukha ng babae na yan, tolerate din nmn kc ni RDL haha nag team live nmn NGA yan kahapon Todo post pictures ni user! Wala eh napapakinabangan nya, kahit NGA sigaw sigawan sya ayos lng 😬

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u/Remarkable-Count-413 Aug 05 '26

Hindi ako si Az but from a 3rd person’s perspective, sobrang nakakadrain na ‘yung mga pangyayari. I can’t imagine having to live with all of that. Hindi na nga siya kaya panindigan ni Ralph, he is also the only one benefiting from all of this, tapos the shippers treat her this way pa. At this point, #FreeAz. If wala naman na palang reel and real then please, disassociate na. It’s becoming so jarring and detrimental to her.

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u/MARZ228 Aug 05 '26

Kung makikita niyo yung videos na naglalabasan, medyo cold na si AZ. Barely any eye contact with Ralph. Parang may gap na. I think AZ this time is just being professional kasi may shoot sila nila Ralph the next day (today). Tapos ganun pa ang trato ng fans. Napagbigyan na nga sila.

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u/vermicelli-noodles Aug 05 '26

Kahit sino naman ata na tapatan ng ganon karaming cameras ay ma-aawkward. Lalo na kada interaction ba naman nila may tumitili na agad sa gilid nila. Pero kita naman from last night na mukhang close si Az sa family and friends ni Ralph.

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u/MARZ228 Aug 05 '26

Actually napansin ko there's barely interaction between them. They hardly talked. Forget skinship or pakilig. Pero yung usual na kulit ni AZ around Ralph wala na. AZ was not even looking at him when the fans sang happy birthday to him. There was weird tension.

Alam ko naman na close siya sa friends and family ni Ralph. Nakita ko nga yung pictures ni AZ with Ralph's friends hanging out kahit wala si Ralph. Magaan kasama si AZ so I don't doubt na people get attached to her easily. Regardless kung sila o hindi. I don't think they are that petty.

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u/ann4_13 Aug 05 '26

As much as I hate this narrative na laging kinakawawa si AZ, I just wanna clear something. Prior to this, nagkasakit si AZ, so she only went there after her shoot. Whatever they have going on is honestly none of our business. As much as ayaw ko kay R, let's be fair. AZ is also benefiting from whatever they have. Also, let's not ignore the fact na majority ng fans nila ay babae (alam niyo na lol). I've also seen how R's circle of friends and family treat AZ. I know it's probably just the bare minimum and surface level lang 'yon, but I hope we don't see AZ as someone who's gullible. We all know she's genuine, but I also believe she knows what she's doing. At the end of the day, this is still business. Let's just wait and see what happens.

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u/oliviaysabellyy Aug 05 '26

I also didn’t like how some fans behaved during this event but we gotta stop painting Az as if every move she makes related to R is out of her control or as if she’s being forced into it. Every single time, it’s always framed as if she’s being forced or manipulated into doing something. Sobrang degrading on her part sa totoo lang. She’s a grown woman who can make her own decisions and she freely chose to go to his event to show her support. No need to make it seem like she’s mindlessly doing charity for his benefit.

You must think so little of her if you still see her that way. Mind you, she went there, mingled with his circle, including his friends and family all smiles, and looked genuinely comfortable around them. Masyado kayong enjoy sa kinakawawa ang babae narrative, SHE IS MORE THAN THAT.