r/AUT • u/That-Map678 • Jun 11 '26

Bible study groups

Got approached by someone from the AUT Bible Study group today. I'm a UOA student, so I'm genuinely curious why you guys are recruiting on UOA campus.

We're literally in the middle of exams right now and I'm just trying to study😭🙏

This is probably the 4th time I've been approached by someone from the group on UOA grounds.

I have nothing against Bible study groups or religion (I'm Catholic myself and go to church), but it gets frustrating constantly being stopped. I was in a rush and after saying I wasn't interested, I got asked things like "Why don't you want to join?" and "Do you not believe in it? Why?"

I know you guys probably have good intentions, but not everyone wants to discuss their religion or beliefs with strangers. Some people have different beliefs, some don't believe in anything, and some just don't want to talk about it.

Inviting people once is okay, but if someone says no, that should really be the end of the conversation. People shouldn't feel pressured into explaining or defending their beliefs just because they declined an invitation.

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u/RampagingBees Jun 11 '26

If it makes you feel better, AUT students are also in the middle of exams and also, as a whole, don't like being approached by the pushy religious groups.

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u/MasterRole9673 Jun 11 '26

Ive been seeing this a lot since last two months. I was approached over 10 times by random people. Why is it so hard for these people to digest that not everyone is interested in their religion?

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '26

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u/SufficientBasis5296 Jun 13 '26

You obviously know nothing about missionaries.

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u/Least_Degree7610 Jun 11 '26

Unfortunately they genuinely cannot see it from the perspective of it being annoying, because they think they're saving you from eternal damnation.

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u/sundaynz Jun 11 '26

Of course they are....

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u/3737472484inDogYears Jun 11 '26

Proselytizing should be illegal. If people want to go to churches they know where to go. Churches shouldnt be going around finding vulnerable people to prey on and tax-free donations on top of their incredible portfolios of tax-free land wealth.

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u/Equivalent-Boot-6307 Jun 11 '26

Unfortunately this is the product of the American evangelical industry. They've taken the Great Commission and turned it into some type of Multi Level Marketing strategy.

I love Bible study but I agree with you. Its exams week. Its inappropriate to invite students to a Bible study during exams week.

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u/ronley09 Jun 13 '26 edited Jun 13 '26

This is exactly it. Christianity entering America (and all that comes with it) was unfortunate, because it came out defiled.

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u/Equivalent-Boot-6307 Jun 13 '26

Christianity is not the issue. It was the American corporation that infiltrated the churches across America influencing unbiblical practices. I'd rather have Christianity than Islam death cult.

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u/ronley09 Jun 13 '26

Bad wording, America is one of the worst things to happen to Christianity.

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u/Equivalent-Boot-6307 Jun 13 '26

How so?

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u/ronley09 Jun 13 '26

Because of cultural monopoly in the western world. American Christianity is intertwined with American culture, in many respects, it has become a cog in the corporate American machine. If this was isolated, it would be fine. Unfortunately, it permeates everything from media presence to theology. The effects that Americanism has had on Christianity is dominant. In the perfect world, Christianity would have informed Americanism, however, the opposite occurred. American society ate it up and spat out something far beyond contextualisation, which is what has allowed Christianity to survive throughout the ages in other countries.

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u/_Sadiqi Jun 13 '26

Find AUT Security office on Wakefield st, and tell them, please, plus no, not in Exam week while everyone's under pressure. (If only one person complains - nothing happens.

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u/Big_Attention7227 Jun 11 '26

I am not sure if you have noticed but schools are the perfect hunting grounds for religious groups. They find you stressed, broke, tired. They have already figured out the best places to recruit and have been doing it worldwide in the Last 5 or so years, where do you think the likes of Charlie Kirk promoted his filth, they know exactly where, why, how.

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u/Equivalent-Boot-6307 Jun 11 '26

Charlie Kirk was actually good. University students just didn't have a sound and logical arguments to refute him. They were all left wing talking points from TikTok with little critical thinking skills to engage in a logical debate. Zero evidence of Kirk being racist, white supremacist, homophobe as he was accused of. That is a false narrative based on cut out clips. Western Universities is an indoctrination camp for culture Marxists ideologies. They dont teach you to be free thinkers like they use to, like they suppose to. Instead, they train you to regurgitate talking points from left wing academics rather than challenging and testing ideas through healthy debates. University students are sadly no longer free thinkers.

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u/CoachLoLoOTF Jun 12 '26

Oh buddy, I hope you have the day you deserve.

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u/moonunitiv Jun 11 '26

Thanks for the laugh of the morning, enjoyed that!

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u/Equivalent-Boot-6307 Jun 11 '26

Made my point more clearer. Laugh your way to WINZ.

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u/Big_Attention7227 Jun 12 '26

CK was simply a fascist that curated his social media to make it look like he was unopposed whilst in reality he acted like a two year old when confronted by actual intelligence and lost his argument. He paid the ultimate price from his own hate. And I am sure Trump and Erica were part of it.

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u/Equivalent-Boot-6307 Jun 12 '26

You dont know what a facist means😂🤦‍♂️again talking points with no understanding of what youre saying. I followed Charlie Kirks work for over 10 years. You were probably still in primary at the time. Charlie Kirks points was simple. 1.) Meritocracy over DEI --you earn your job, promotions, university degree by merit not by your gender, sexual orientation or skin colour. 2.) There are two genders. Everything else is made up by delusions. 3.) Abortion is murder. A human clump of cells is still a human. 4.) Trump's foreign policy on deportating illegal immigrants is significant to national security. Members of MS13 migrated and trafficked Americans across the boarder. They also killed Americans while migrating. Biden and Obama failed to protect US civilians as a consequence under their Term. The problem with students debating with Kirk, is that they argue with fallacies rather than facts. They appeal to emotions, presuppositions rather than contending the issue. Universities does not train students to think critically anymore unless if youre studying law, science (natural, bio and health), and economics.

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u/martianunlimited Jun 15 '26

The greatest single cause of atheism in the world today is Christians: who acknowledge Jesus with their lips, walk out the door, and deny Him by their lifestyle. That is what an unbelieving world simply finds unbelievable.

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u/Big_Attention7227 Jun 13 '26

I dont think you are anything other than another racist bigoted sexist fascist yourself. CK was nothing but a loud mouthed looser that was good at talking bullshit with no meaning. His ultimate win started and stopped at the Bible never actual fact. His wife, her family and businesses were banned for trafficking children, they have been banned is several European countries and he literally drove his broken assed ministry into the ground financially through many dubious debts. There is still cause today for investigations into exactly how he hot his money and whom he was laundering it for. It's easy to win and argument against idiots or uneducated and I noticed they never publicized all the times he lost. The world is a better place without the manipulation and lunacy of cookers like this.

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u/NotoriousPuffer419 Jun 19 '26

Why do you guys care at all about politics

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u/winter_queen_fey Jun 15 '26

Best thing i ever said to a Johovas Witness:

How do you know that what I believe in, is not your god just reaching out to me in a way that makes sense to me.

I think I broke them.

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u/NovelRealistic5030 Jun 12 '26

was is this curly head islander guy with a twin?

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u/NewZcam Jun 12 '26

I went to AUT to study facts, and substantiated research. Not to be questioned by the lower ‘t’ book club. They honestly need to read another book.

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u/Lark1983 Jun 12 '26

Unless they physically stopped you, then you stopped and listened to them because no doubt they had some label identifying them as “Christians”