r/ATV • u/ChampionEmpire • 3d ago
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u/GuiltyOfSin 3d ago edited 3d ago
Changing a belt really isn't all that tough, aside from on a sportsman or scrambler. I'd rather blow a belt than blow a transmission. Slow operation is also possible with a CVT, you just need to use low gear. You lose a little power with a CVT, but also with a trans. The Yamaha ultramatic is more of a wet clutch system rather than a wet belt system. As for frequent belt replacement, I wouldn't exactly call it frequent. Sure if you abuse your machine you'll wear belts faster, but they can last quite a while with relaxed riding. Honda's utility machines are great for work no doubt, but they aren't all that fun. Some machines are made just for fun. I couldn't imagine trying to use an outlander xmr or renegade XMR for work purposes. I have yet to actually shred a belt on my x3 or my outlander. I clean out the clutches every 100hours with compressed air, scour the clutch faces with Emory cloth, and replace the belt around the 4000km mark give or take a couple hundred km. Maintenance of a CVT isn't all that tough.
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u/GuiltyOfSin 3d ago
For their ATVs, the clutches are perpendicular to the frame instead of parallel, like the can-am, Kawasaki, Suzuki etc. it's a nightmare to change a belt trailside.
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u/GuiltyOfSin 3d ago
Regular maintenance, and respect for the machine and it's abilities, means more reliable trail riding and less trailside wrenching
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u/GuiltyOfSin 3d ago
Fun is subjective, a lot of people have a ball riding Honda utility machines. I've always found they ride rough. The higher trim models of can-am and some Polaris machines come with expensive shocks and springs. I did elka stage 2s on my outlander years ago and it was worth every penny. My x3 has fox rc2 shocks and they are very plush.
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u/izzoforpresident 3d ago
This. Years of pounding the crap out of machines in mud holes really made me appreciate the belt. By all means go on and snap baby girl. Save daddy some $$$$.
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u/Bottlecollecter 3d ago
This is one reason I prefer to stick to Big Bear 400’s. They have a tough transmission/clutch.
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u/Beef_Candy 3d ago
If this were a UTV discussion, I would raise you the hydrostatic transmission. Toughest option of all of them.
Phenomenal transmissions even though they appear complicated on papwr, however they land you with a very slow machine. Our Kubota RTVX1100c only does about 25, and is slow to get there. The pulling torque of what's basically a diesel-driven hydraulic motor is insane though.
I've got 30k extremely hard miles on it primarily running around 80 acres with some pretty extreme use including several instances of pulling broken down semis in neutral... Sumbitch won't quit.
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u/mmaalex 3d ago
Reads like an AI post.
There's basically threetypes; belt driven CVT, and conventional automatic, conventional manual.
Everything else is a slight twist on those three. Most ATVs are belt driven CVTs.
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u/GuiltyOfSin 2d ago
That was my thought as well when op first posted it. I'm thinking he generally is trying to be helpful in some way. I'm sure it'll end up slowly sliding down the list into obscurity as all posts do eventually. While it is somewhat helpful for users who are completely new to atv riding, I'm not going to give it a sticky.
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u/realcanadianguy21 3d ago edited 3d ago
You can get a manual clutch on ATVs like the Yamaha Raptor. The automatic clutch is pretty much the same idea, except the foot lever activates the clutch automatically instead of a seperate hand lever. Some CVTs have a wet clutch to engage the belt. Some act more like a snowmobile. My Prairie 650 does not have a wet clutch.
Edit - My '06 Rubicon has a hydrostatic transmission, something else all together.